not to clear on it, but maybe thats just how the market is set up, he has to to pay the bills, maybe...

AccoutabilityUSA wrote:

not to clear on it, but maybe thats just how the market is set up, he has to to pay the bills, maybe...

How the market's set-up? No, it's because he has mostly heavy crude, with isn't easily refined.

But still, since we're his number 1 enemy he should sell his oil elsewhere.

And as for his bills, too bad.. His oil production has dropped dramatically since he threw out the Western Oil Companies. BTW just to prove what a hypocrite he is last year when the price of oil tanked he went running to those very same Western Oil Companies to ask for their help to boast his oil production..

hypocrite may be too strong. necessity is necessity.
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if it were my nation, one which has not grown but instead been stifled by the free market, i would throw out foreign oil interests as well

AccoutabilityUSA wrote:

hypocrite may be too strong. necessity is necessity. and if it were my nation, one which has not grown but instead been stifled by the free market, i would throw out foreign oil interests as well

Good, throw them out... Call the oil companies and the US every name in the book. That's fine, I have no problem with that. But then don't sell your oil to them and then go begging for their help when the money starts to dry up..He could go begging to China, or Russia, or where ever. Of course there are reasons he don't, but lets not talk about them. LOL It looks better for him when he begs the evil West for help...

Hypocrite is too strong of a word? No, not at all.. That is the definition of the word hypocrite.

So, basically what I'm getting from all of this, is that it's either the same s**t on a different day, or I just hit a black hole on the bus ride back, and landed a couple of years into the past...

Mr.Bill wrote:

AccoutabilityUSA wrote: not to clear on it, but maybe thats just how the market is set up, he has to to pay the bills, maybe... How the market's set-up? No, it's because he has mostly heavy crude, with isn't easily refined. But still, since we're his number 1 enemy he should sell his oil elsewhere. And as for his bills, too bad.. His oil production has dropped dramatically since he threw out the Western Oil Companies. BTW just to prove what a hypocrite he is last year when the price of oil tanked he went running to those very same Western Oil Companies to ask for their help to boast his oil production..

Actually the oil companies were purposefully cutting down production in Venezuela as a covert tactic of artificial shortages - after basically raping the country of its natural oil reserves for decades through shady deals. Let's spare the sympathy.

Mr.Bill wrote:

AccoutabilityUSA wrote: well, its the same booger, isnt it? the US and its presence in Columbia, that is? ------------------------------- and, i mean, given his perception in the US and the nature of US policy toward him and what he represents, is this not an accurate booger man? If he didn't sell us his oil, I would take his constant rhetoric about how evil the US is, etc. more seriously.. Unless one is a terrible phony and hypocrite you don't sell someone who is your enemy such an important commodity as oil, do you? LOL.. Of course you don't. He's an attention w**** who's screwed up his country so badly that to keep his people in line and hold onto power he needs a daily bogeyman.

Or Chavez is just a pragmatist who realizes you can't simply divert oil resources without creating a catastrophic backlash, both politically and economically. Venezuela, like Iran, relies heavily on natural gas extraction, but in terms of refining capacities, it's dependent on the United States due to how American corporations stack up the developing world for their own benefit.

In fact since 2002 Venezuela has invested heavily in technologies not related to natural gas so that its economy will be restructured in the future (in addition to brokering deals with Russia and China to cut down on reliance with American markets), so I'm calling out your claim of hypocrisy as entirely misinformed.

By the way, three points to anyone who can successfully tell me what prompted this bitter reaction by the Chavez administration without navigating Google. I can assure you it wasn't just Chavez waking up one morning and deciding war would be nice.

Prefx wrote:

Mr.Bill wrote: AccoutabilityUSA wrote: well, its the same booger, isnt it? the US and its presence in Columbia, that is? ------------------------------- and, i mean, given his perception in the US and the nature of US policy toward him and what he represents, is this not an accurate booger man? If he didn't sell us his oil, I would take his constant rhetoric about how evil the US is, etc. more seriously.. Unless one is a terrible phony and hypocrite you don't sell someone who is your enemy such an important commodity as oil, do you? LOL.. Of course you don't. He's an attention w**** who's screwed up his country so badly that to keep his people in line and hold onto power he needs a daily bogeyman. Or Chavez is just a pragmatist who realizes you can't simply divert oil resources without creating a catastrophic backlash, both politically and economically. Venezuela, like Iran, relies heavily on natural gas extraction, but in terms of refining capacities, it's dependent on the United States due to how American corporations stack up the developing world for their own benefit. In fact since 2002 Venezuela has invested heavily in technologies not related to natural gas so that its economy will be restructured in the future (in addition to brokering deals with Russia and China to cut down on reliance with American markets), so I'm calling out your claim of hypocrisy as entirely misinformed.

So in 7 years he still can't find another customer?!? As you may well know there are plenty of customers for oil on the world market.. PLENTY! Yet he STILL sells his oil to his great enemy, the US...

I'm sticking with hypocrite..

Prefx wrote:

Mr.Bill wrote: AccoutabilityUSA wrote: not to clear on it, but maybe thats just how the market is set up, he has to to pay the bills, maybe... How the market's set-up? No, it's because he has mostly heavy crude, with isn't easily refined. But still, since we're his number 1 enemy he should sell his oil elsewhere. And as for his bills, too bad.. His oil production has dropped dramatically since he threw out the Western Oil Companies. BTW just to prove what a hypocrite he is last year when the price of oil tanked he went running to those very same Western Oil Companies to ask for their help to boast his oil production.. Actually the oil companies were purposefully cutting down production in Venezuela as a covert tactic of artificial shortages - after basically raping the country of its natural oil reserves for decades through shady deals. Let's spare the sympathy.

You mean the Oil Companies that CHAVEZ nationalized purposely cut back on production? If that is true then you're right, Chavez deserves no sympathy..

But anyway I don't care what the 'reason' was. The fact is over the years his oil companies production has continually dropped, to the point that last year he had to ask the very same Western Oil companies he threw out for help in raising production..

That too sounds quite hypocritical to me..