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That says it all. Being economically self-sufficient is really the definition of the poverty line.

I might also add that government could create a society for the poor that didn't require a more substantial income. Having a place where people had access to public transportation, cheap rent and health care would work. Teaching people how to live on potatoes, corn, rice and stuff would make affordable substantial meals.

But NO! Lets give them more competition with the suppressive government monopolies of China. Let's make more Chinese billionaires at the expense of the poor American. Let's export even the jobs away that would provide self-sufficiency.

Where is that quote from? Link?

give us a definition of poverty b/c im sure "poverty" in america is nothing like poverty in africa.

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I don't even let someone rent my $800/month one bedroom apartment unless they make 3 times that amount after taxes. The last time I tried, I was stuck with a woman that never paid and was not evictible due to a baby. In Massachusetts, the courts won't let you evict easily/quickly and the public assistance programs won't pick up the person for years. It is a crappy pseudo social "program". Yet one more reason why I want to disconnect from the American government.

...and where is THAT quote from? Link?

humanrights wrote:

I might also add that government could create a society for the poor that didn't require a more substantial income. Having a place where people had access to public transportation, cheap rent and health care would work. Teaching people how to live on potatoes, corn, rice and stuff would make affordable substantial meals.

so your answer to poverty is subsistence farming? WTF?

humanrights wrote:

But NO! Lets give them more competition with the suppressive government monopolies of China. Let's make more Chinese billionaires at the expense of the poor American. Let's export even the jobs away that would provide self-sufficiency.

you do realize that our relationship with China creates jobs and raises incomes in the US--right?

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Humanrights, You need to apply links to your copy/past info, citing the source. This is per forum regs. I'll be waiting 20 minutes before deleting the un-sourced content. CC: Private Messages

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