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[Timmytour]

Heinz wrote: Quote: how twisted is that logic

He never said he threatened Bush..he said he was tempted.

I never said he threatened Bush......

Quote: You can be arrested for using threatening language...but not for having threatening thoughts.

Duh! Go back and read what I really wrote.

Quote: I don't think that's the question... I think the question is the lying thread title, because rather than saying to president bush "I'm going to punch you," he said to a friend "boy, that Bush got me so mad I was tempted to slug him."

There is in fact a difference.

Duh......

Heinz wrote: Webb has to maintain his cool.

Do you believe there is or there isn´t a difference between threatening and being tempted?

Webb did maintain his cool...admirably.

[Heinz]

Quote: Bush was right? Oh my...

Here, I have a song for you.

Nice no rebuttal, only a stupid "song" that does no one any good.

What was Bush's question?

It was "How's your boy?"

Not "where do you want him?"

Quote: Webb feels the same way many of us feel who are against this war, and Bush's endless lies only intensifies that anger. Webb answered Bush's question perfectly; he just didn't like the answer.

He didn't answer his question. He said "I want him home," and that's not an answer to "how's your boy."

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Saying "I felt like slugging the guy" is a description of how pissed off he
was, some people actually still say what they mean. It's not a threat, it's
a way to describe your anger.

Being a tactless moron Bush could probably use a good smack.

[Heinz]

Quote: Do you believe there is or there isn´t a difference between threatening and being tempted?

Of course there is, but that doesn;'t make it a good idea to publically admit that you thought abotu harming a public official. If you and I were to do that there's no doubt where'd we be.

Quote: Webb did maintain his cool...admirably.

I agree.

[Tono]

He didn't threaten him.

[Timmytour]

Heinz wrote: Quote: Bush was right? Oh my...

Here, I have a song for you.

Nice no rebuttal, only a stupid "song" that does no one any good.

What was Bush's question?

It was "How's your boy?"

Not "where do you want him?"

Quote: Webb feels the same way many of us feel who are against this war, and Bush's endless lies only intensifies that anger. Webb answered Bush's question perfectly; he just didn't like the answer.

He didn't answer his question. He said "I want him home," and that's not an answer to "how's your boy."

But Quote: that's between me and my boy, Mr. President

certainly is.

[Dookiestix]

Heinz wrote: Quote: Bush was right? Oh my...

Here, I have a song for you.

Nice no rebuttal, only a stupid "song" that does no one any good.

What was Bush's question?

It was "How's your boy?"

Not "where do you want him?"

Quote: Webb feels the same way many of us feel who are against this war, and Bush's endless lies only intensifies that anger. Webb answered Bush's question perfectly; he just didn't like the answer.

He didn't answer his question. He said "I want him home," and that's not an answer to "how's your boy."
Frankly, me and others don't give a sh!t how narrowly you insist on defining this for your own political purposes. The bottom line is that Webb and MANY of us are angry at Bush for starting this war, and Webb showed it when confronted by Bush. IMHO, Bush is an arrogant bastard who deserved to be treated as such. He deserves some actual confrontation for a change now that his rubber-stamping Congress is going bye-bye.

Bush asked a question. Webb answered it. You and Bush just dont' like the answer, but it is what Webb was feeling.

How far are you willing to spin the unspinnable?

Glad to hear that you think the song is stupid. That was the intent on reinforcing the hysterical "Bush is Right" line.

[flamboyant]

asainspace wrote: Heinz wrote: mODULAR mAN wrote: I bet Bush pee'd his pants. :lol:

I doubt that. Look I think Webb served proudly as a Marine, but wanting to slug teh president is something you should keep to yourself. Not to say that he can't be critical of Bush's policies, after all it is the US, just that he shouldn't openly admit that he wanted to harm another person, especially the president.

So lets not be really truthful then as politicians and servers of the people?

Why can't he admit his feelings? After all he is a trained Marine?

Threatening the President is against the law. Perhaps a threat to "punch" the president wouldn't be treated as seriously, but a threat to kill the president could wind a person up with serious charges.

Saying you were tempted isn't exactly the same as saying that you plan to, but it's still serious enough where I imagine the Secret Service feels compelled to start up a file and keep their eye on the guy.

[Heinz]

Quote: certainly is.

It certainly is, but it wasn't his initial response to Bush's question.

He initally said that he wanted him home, which didn't answer Bush's question. That's when Bush, and correctly, made the statement that he didn't answer his question.

[Timmytour]

Heinz wrote: Quote: Do you believe there is or there isn´t a difference between threatening and being tempted?

Of course there is, but that doesn;'t make it a good idea to publically admit that you thought abotu harming a public official. If you and I were to do that there's no doubt where'd we be.



When I asked if there was much difference between them earlier you responded no.

You replied "Duh" to another poster you quoted as saying "there is actually a difference"

I find you to be inconsistent and vague.

[flamboyant]

Heinz wrote: Quote: certainly is.

It certainly is, but it wasn't his initial response to Bush's question.

He initally said that he wanted him home, which didn't answer Bush's question. That's when Bush, and correctly, made the statement that he didn't answer his question.

That's pretty plain to follow.

[Dookiestix]

Heinz wrote: Quote: certainly is.

It certainly is, but it wasn't his initial response to Bush's question.

He initally said that he wanted him home, which didn't answer Bush's question. That's when Bush, and correctly, made the statement that he didn't answer his question.
Webb did. Bush didn't like the answer. And neither did you, obviously...

[Dookiestix]

Timmytour wrote: Heinz wrote: Quote: Do you believe there is or there isn´t a difference between threatening and being tempted?

Of course there is, but that doesn;'t make it a good idea to publically admit that you thought abotu harming a public official. If you and I were to do that there's no doubt where'd we be.



When I asked if there was much difference between them earlier you responded no.

You replied "Duh" to another poster you quoted as saying "there is actually a difference"

I find you to be inconsistent and vague.
Yep.

[Timmytour]

Heinz wrote: Quote: certainly is.

It certainly is, but it wasn't his initial response to Bush's question.

He initally said that he wanted him home, which didn't answer Bush's question. That's when Bush, and correctly, made the statement that he didn't answer his question.

So we´re agreed he did answer his question which is not the impression you tried to leave in your previous post.

Now....shall we list the occasions on which Bush has not answered directly the questions he´has been asked?

And shall we debate on what right the President had to expect an answer to his question anyway?

Unless of course that´s another recent change in the law that I´ve missed :shock:

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Heinz wrote: Quote: certainly is.

It certainly is, but it wasn't his initial response to Bush's question.

He initally said that he wanted him home, which didn't answer Bush's question. That's when Bush, and correctly, made the statement that he didn't answer his question.

The question wasn't answered if your a nine year old.
Obviously the answer implied that he did not consider his son to be "well"
while still in Iraq.

All Bush had to say was "Its not an easy situation for anybody". Did he
do something so easy, no, he acted like a domineering p***k.

[Heinz]

Quote: Frankly, me and others don't give a sh!t how narrowly you insist on defining this for your own political purposes.

What about hwo narrowly you define it for your's?

Having your cake and eating it to, eh?

I have no political goal here. I'm just calling it like I see it.

Quote: He deserves some actual confrontation for a change now that his rubber-stamping Congress is going bye-bye.

Maybe so, but the fact of the matter is that Webb's inital response to Bush's qeustion was not an answer to the question asked. "it's between me and my boy" certainly was a good answer, but his intial response of "I want him home" was not.

Quote: Bush asked a question. Webb answered it. You and Bush just dont' like the answer, but it is what Webb was feeling.

I don't mind his answer....it just didn't answer Bush's question.

Quote: Glad to hear that you think the song is stupid. That was the intent on reinforcing the hysterical "Bush is Right" line.

I wonder what you call people who rely on stupid songs to prove a point.

[callous]

Heinz wrote: mODULAR mAN wrote: I bet Bush pee'd his pants. :lol:

I doubt that. Look I think Webb served proudly as a Marine, but wanting to slug teh president is something you should keep to yourself. Not to say that he can't be critical of Bush's policies, after all it is the US, just that he shouldn't openly admit that he wanted to harm another person, especially the president.

No, we wouldn't ever want a congressman with balls, that would set a horrible precedent for the American public.

[flamboyant]

Dookiestix wrote: Heinz wrote: Quote: certainly is.

It certainly is, but it wasn't his initial response to Bush's question.

He initally said that he wanted him home, which didn't answer Bush's question. That's when Bush, and correctly, made the statement that he didn't answer his question.
Webb did. Bush didn't like the answer. And neither did you, obviously...

Answering that you want him home is no answer to how your boy is doing. What part of that don't you get?

[Heinz]

Quote: So we´re agreed he did answer his question which is not the impression you tried to leave in your previous post.

Now....shall we list the occasions on which Bush has not answered directly the questions he´has been asked?

Please do. Why do you assume that I even liek Bush taht much? Is it because I loosely defend him in this thread? I already said his demeanor was that of an arrogant **** when he asked Webb his question.

Quote: And shall we debate on what right the President had to expect an answer to his question anyway?

He has no right per say, but if asked a question you should try and give an answer for that question.

Starwmanning is not your friend.

[mODULAR mAN]

Maybe Webb should have just said, "Go f**k yourself."? Seems to work for Cheney.