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[cap'n queasy]

Revenant wrote: How about we don't. How about we let other countries deal with their own damn problems and stay the hell away.

Because those problems grow into problems for us if they are ignored.

[Revenant]

cap'n queasy wrote: Revenant wrote: How about we don't. How about we let other countries deal with their own damn problems and stay the hell away.

Because those problems grow into problems for us if they are ignored.

Actually problems stem from involvement in issues that are of no concern to us.

*looks at Middle East*

[micfranklin]

Revenant wrote: How about we don't. How about we let other countries deal with their own damn problems and stay the hell away.

Unfortunately some countries are too far gone to be able to deal with it themselves....

[cap'n queasy]

Revenant wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Revenant wrote: How about we don't. How about we let other countries deal with their own damn problems and stay the hell away.

Because those problems grow into problems for us if they are ignored.

Actually problems stem from involvement in issues that are of no concern to us.

*looks at Middle East*

The Middle East would only be far stronger, likely a large empire unified under a dictator, if it weren't for the US running interference there.

Sticking your head in the sand doesn't really make problems go away, it just obscures your view of them.

[Revenant]

cap'n queasy wrote: Revenant wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Revenant wrote: How about we don't. How about we let other countries deal with their own damn problems and stay the hell away.

Because those problems grow into problems for us if they are ignored.

Actually problems stem from involvement in issues that are of no concern to us.

*looks at Middle East*

The Middle East would only be far stronger, likely a large empire unified under a dictator, if it weren't for the US running interference there.
Sticking your head in the sand doesn't really make problems go away, it just obscures your view of them.

Link?

[sLiPpY]

Could someone please explain to my why Americans believe they're someone responsible for things that happen in other parts of the world?

We've got plenty to do here.

[Revenant]

sLiPpY wrote: Could someone please explain to my why Americans believe they're someone responsible for things that happen in other parts of the world?

We've got plenty to do here.

Psssh, no we don't. Lets rebuild Nozieahfasdkhgakjhstan at the cost of the American taxpayer. Fantastic!

[Ameriman]

The dane wrote: Things like this and Rwanda prove beyond a doubt USA's foreign politics has never been about anything so noble as helping the civilian population in other countries, whatever some may claim about the motives for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly though the European countries are no better on this one, we could send an EU force if we really wanted too, but so far it hasn't happened.

Ofcourse stopping it is no simple task, Sudan is a huge country with very little infrastructure and the government being partly responsible for these attrocities wont cooperate. But we should at the very least be making more of an effort, get some damn peacekeepers in there already !

I don't see the Danes rushing to Africa...

[sLiPpY]

Revenant wrote: sLiPpY wrote: Could someone please explain to my why Americans believe they're someone responsible for things that happen in other parts of the world?

We've got plenty to do here.

Psssh, no we don't. Lets rebuild Nozieahfasdkhgakjhstan at the cost of the American taxpayer. Fantastic!

:lol:

[Revenant]

Ameriman wrote: The dane wrote: Things like this and Rwanda prove beyond a doubt USA's foreign politics has never been about anything so noble as helping the civilian population in other countries, whatever some may claim about the motives for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly though the European countries are no better on this one, we could send an EU force if we really wanted too, but so far it hasn't happened.

Ofcourse stopping it is no simple task, Sudan is a huge country with very little infrastructure and the government being partly responsible for these attrocities wont cooperate. But we should at the very least be making more of an effort, get some damn peacekeepers in there already !

I don't see the Danes rushing to Africa...

Yep. But of course they want a peacekeeping force sent in. Guess which nation will be doing most of the work?

Basically they're asking America to do something. When s**t hits the fan, guess who'll be complaining?

I'll give you a hint. It starts with "E" and ends in "urope".

[Ameriman]

Revenant wrote: Ameriman wrote: The dane wrote: Things like this and Rwanda prove beyond a doubt USA's foreign politics has never been about anything so noble as helping the civilian population in other countries, whatever some may claim about the motives for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly though the European countries are no better on this one, we could send an EU force if we really wanted too, but so far it hasn't happened.

Ofcourse stopping it is no simple task, Sudan is a huge country with very little infrastructure and the government being partly responsible for these attrocities wont cooperate. But we should at the very least be making more of an effort, get some damn peacekeepers in there already !

I don't see the Danes rushing to Africa...

Yep. But of course they want a peacekeeping force sent in. Guess which nation will be doing most of the work?

Basically they're asking America to do something.

What else is new...damned if you do...damned if you don't...

[Revenant]

Ameriman wrote: Revenant wrote: Ameriman wrote: The dane wrote: Things like this and Rwanda prove beyond a doubt USA's foreign politics has never been about anything so noble as helping the civilian population in other countries, whatever some may claim about the motives for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly though the European countries are no better on this one, we could send an EU force if we really wanted too, but so far it hasn't happened.

Ofcourse stopping it is no simple task, Sudan is a huge country with very little infrastructure and the government being partly responsible for these attrocities wont cooperate. But we should at the very least be making more of an effort, get some damn peacekeepers in there already !

I don't see the Danes rushing to Africa...

Yep. But of course they want a peacekeeping force sent in. Guess which nation will be doing most of the work?

Basically they're asking America to do something.

What else is new...damned if you do...damned if you don't...

Absolutely. I edited the above post, but same point.

[cap'n queasy]

Revenant wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Revenant wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Revenant wrote: How about we don't. How about we let other countries deal with their own damn problems and stay the hell away.

Because those problems grow into problems for us if they are ignored.

Actually problems stem from involvement in issues that are of no concern to us.

*looks at Middle East*

The Middle East would only be far stronger, likely a large empire unified under a dictator, if it weren't for the US running interference there.
Sticking your head in the sand doesn't really make problems go away, it just obscures your view of them.

Link?

What do you mean link?

That's pure speculation, it cannot be proven by a link to a website. :lol: The fact is there are plenty of movements the with precisely that goal in mind, and they have been around for a long time. And if this did not happen for some reason, Russia or China would be there instead of us.

What do you think the purpose of intervention is? Just to screw with people for no reason? It's to keep potential threats to our national interest from developing. America dominates the Middle East and Central Asia because who ever dominates it will control the future. And that is the bottom line. If we don't dominate it someone else will, and the chances of someone who is better for the entire world than the US is are zero.

You basically have China, Russia, or one of the Middle Eastern countries as a choice beside the US.

I pick the US. You may have a different choice, but I cannot imagine why.

[cap'n queasy]

Revenant wrote: Ameriman wrote: The dane wrote: Things like this and Rwanda prove beyond a doubt USA's foreign politics has never been about anything so noble as helping the civilian population in other countries, whatever some may claim about the motives for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly though the European countries are no better on this one, we could send an EU force if we really wanted too, but so far it hasn't happened.

Ofcourse stopping it is no simple task, Sudan is a huge country with very little infrastructure and the government being partly responsible for these attrocities wont cooperate. But we should at the very least be making more of an effort, get some damn peacekeepers in there already !

I don't see the Danes rushing to Africa...

Yep. But of course they want a peacekeeping force sent in. Guess which nation will be doing most of the work?

Basically they're asking America to do something. When s**t hits the fan, guess who'll be complaining?

I'll give you a hint. It starts with "E" and ends in "urope". :lol:

That seems to be how it goes.

[Ameriman]

Revenant wrote: Ameriman wrote: Revenant wrote: Ameriman wrote: The dane wrote: Things like this and Rwanda prove beyond a doubt USA's foreign politics has never been about anything so noble as helping the civilian population in other countries, whatever some may claim about the motives for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly though the European countries are no better on this one, we could send an EU force if we really wanted too, but so far it hasn't happened.

Ofcourse stopping it is no simple task, Sudan is a huge country with very little infrastructure and the government being partly responsible for these attrocities wont cooperate. But we should at the very least be making more of an effort, get some damn peacekeepers in there already !

I don't see the Danes rushing to Africa...

Yep. But of course they want a peacekeeping force sent in. Guess which nation will be doing most of the work?

Basically they're asking America to do something.

What else is new...damned if you do...damned if you don't...

Absolutely. I edited the above post, but same point.

At some point you just got to tell them to:

[Revenant]

Ameriman wrote: Revenant wrote: Ameriman wrote: Revenant wrote: Ameriman wrote: The dane wrote: Things like this and Rwanda prove beyond a doubt USA's foreign politics has never been about anything so noble as helping the civilian population in other countries, whatever some may claim about the motives for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly though the European countries are no better on this one, we could send an EU force if we really wanted too, but so far it hasn't happened.

Ofcourse stopping it is no simple task, Sudan is a huge country with very little infrastructure and the government being partly responsible for these attrocities wont cooperate. But we should at the very least be making more of an effort, get some damn peacekeepers in there already !

I don't see the Danes rushing to Africa...

Yep. But of course they want a peacekeeping force sent in. Guess which nation will be doing most of the work?

Basically they're asking America to do something.

What else is new...damned if you do...damned if you don't...

Absolutely. I edited the above post, but same point.

At some point you just got to tell them to:



:lol:

[Bushmills]

You know why there is a total chaos in Sudan?

First of all it's radical islamic nation, which cannot allow any foreign forces on its holy land.

Second of all, China got major oil intrests in Sudan and it's sure they don't want that relationship to broke because of Security Councils involvement, so we won't see any UN's forces there (maybe it's just good thing).

China Invests Heavily In Sudan's Oil Industry

CHINA’S INVOLVEMENT IN SUDAN: ARMS AND OIL

[Mr. Sunshine]

Sounds like a job for the U.N. :lol:

[CountryGuy]

Let other nations manage it -- Perhaps the UN is willing to send a force there.

[lovebush]

CountryGuy wrote: Let other nations manage it -- Perhaps the UN is willing to send a force there.


YEA. they would be helpful like they were in rwanda and the congo. :lol: