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[mr.snruB]

The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

[eynon]

Suheil wrote: The debate is the child running a Marathon; the debate is occupation running a mock. Yesterday it was raised Falluja, the day before was a the rape of Mahmodia, today power dictating the rules of marathon in the most pathetic scene a dog following the scent of meat in a dog race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9A_vxIOB-I&eurl=

The debate is Bush's war and what it turned Americans to; it is the core of the conflict!

Look I'm no fan of the war, but any bullying or brutality American troops are guilty of pales in comparison to what the Iraqis are doing to each other:

Quote: Outside their houses, the revenge attacks raged on. Gunmen wearing Iraqi army uniforms rounded up 21 men, including a 12-year-old boy, from two Shiite homes in the village of Balad Ruz , 45 miles northeast of Baghdad in Diyala province. On Saturday morning, their bodies were found, all handcuffed, blindfolded and shot to death, said Bahaa al-Sodani, a provincial police official. The attacks were in apparent retaliation for assaults by Shiite militiamen on Sunni mosques in Baghdad and Baquba the previous day.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15896932/

Quote: They reported people attacking Sunni houses with hand grenades and rocket-propelled grenades. Shiite militiamen are also said to have doused Sunnis with kerosene and burned them, and shot at other people.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/24/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

The United Nations assistance mission for Iraq (UNAMI) has said that human rights violations in Iraq are continuing on a massive scale amid growing violence in all sections of society.

Quote: "Human rights violations, particularly against the right to life and personal integrity, [have] continued to occur at an alarming daily rate in Iraq," the report, released on Wednesday, said.

Bodies found in the Baghdad morgue "often bear signs of severe torture including acid-induced injuries and burns caused by chemical substances, missing skin, broken bones - back, hands and legs, missing eyes, missing teeth and wounds caused by power drills or nails," the report said.

The monthly report said that terrorist attacks, the growth of militias, the emergence of organized crime had resulted in the large-scale and indiscriminate killing of civilians.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/un-report-describes-iraqi-torture-acid-nails-and-drills

[The Newb]

mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

[eynon]

mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

mostly just Panama, Serbia, and Iraq.........I mean Russia and China are constantly pulling s**t we don't like, but we're still trying to make nice with em............power politics man 8:)

[mr.snruB]

The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

I was thinking more along the lines of post-WW2.

[The Newb]

mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

I was thinking more along the lines of post-WW2.

so was i they do not agree with our policies, and would love to write them for us yet they are not "messed" up

[mr.snruB]

The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

I was thinking more along the lines of post-WW2.

so was i they do not agree with our policies, and would love to write them for us yet they are not "messed" up

I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that they also need to be filled with brown people who happen to be sitting on oil

[The Newb]

mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

I was thinking more along the lines of post-WW2.

so was i they do not agree with our policies, and would love to write them for us yet they are not "messed" up

I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that they also need to be filled with brown people who happen to be sitting on oil

:lol: iran, saudi arabia, kuwait, syria, turkey? nope still dont hold water

[Mr. Sunshine]

Didn't you see the end of the video? Those big Iraqi kids took the water from the small Iraqi kid after the gift was given from the American soldier on a race well run. It seems they not only won his heart and his mind, but his legs as well. :lol:

[mr.snruB]

The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

I was thinking more along the lines of post-WW2.

so was i they do not agree with our policies, and would love to write them for us yet they are not "messed" up

I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that they also need to be filled with brown people who happen to be sitting on oil

:lol: iran, saudi arabia, kuwait, syria, turkey? nope still dont hold water

Iran/Syria are next in line. And Kuwait/Saudi Arabia doesn't have conflicting policies with the US (the ones that count, anyways)

[The Newb]

mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

I was thinking more along the lines of post-WW2.

so was i they do not agree with our policies, and would love to write them for us yet they are not "messed" up

I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that they also need to be filled with brown people who happen to be sitting on oil

:lol: iran, saudi arabia, kuwait, syria, turkey? nope still dont hold water

Iran/Syria are next in line. And Kuwait/Saudi Arabia doesn't have conflicting policies with the US (the ones that count, anyways)

actually, iran, and syria will not be invaded, iran maybe bombed a bit but not invaded, as far as syria, nothing really will happen, saudi and kuwait, well, they are not our best freinds and would like to see us change policies as well, they are allies by virtue of protection and economic reasons, more than agreement on policy and did you forget turkey? they are in the same boat as saudi and kuwait

just because a country does not agree with us does not mean an invasion, it does mean that they should keep thier noses out of our business unless it directly affects them, hence american policy not eupropean, or middle eastern, or asian policy

[Suheil]

eynon

Quote: Look I'm no fan of the war, but any bullying or brutality American troops are guilty of pales in comparison to what the Iraqis are doing to each other:

Don’t you think that you can easily attribute it the first cause?

Quote: The United Nations assistance mission for Iraq (UNAMI) has said that human rights violations in Iraq are continuing on a massive scale amid growing violence in all sections of society.

And who dismantled Iraq to three entities, to factions and sub-factions?

[Suheil]

Mr. Sunshine wrote: Didn't you see the end of the video? Those big Iraqi kids took the water from the small Iraqi kid after the gift was given from the American soldier on a race well run. It seems they not only won his heart and his mind, but his legs as well. :lol:

It seems they not only won his heart and his mind, but his legs as well.

Unwanted, unloved, shoo!
Awaiting the final chapter of the last cobra out of the new Saigon!

[slitedeviance]

The Newb wrote: just because a country does not agree with us does not mean an invasion, it does mean that they should keep thier noses out of our business unless it directly affects them, hence american policy not eupropean, or middle eastern, or asian policy

Nice idea, shame that the US admin seems to to think that everything is it's business. South America found that out for a good span in the 70's adn 80's. Iran found that out in '53.

It's no good trying to say that the US just needs to be left alone to get on with it, because the IT seems to be messing with a hell of a lot of other nations. The policy would only work if the US admin bought into it as well, and they won't.

[Suheil]

mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: mr.snruB wrote: The Newb wrote: Lumina wrote: I don't think Americans are bullies.

only if you consider not allowing the rest of the world to "write" our policies, and procedures being a bully then yeah i guess we are

I always thought it was more the "If we don't like your policies we f*ck sh*t up in your country" stuff that the US seems to like engaging in

explain how we do that again?

france, germany, ect. are messed up how?

Quote: And Kuwait/Saudi Arabia doesn't have conflicting policies with the US (the ones that count, anyways)

I was thinking more along the lines of post-WW2.

so was i they do not agree with our policies, and would love to write them for us yet they are not "messed" up

I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that they also need to be filled with brown people who happen to be sitting on oil

:lol: iran, saudi arabia, kuwait, syria, turkey? nope still dont hold water

Iran/Syria are next in line. And Kuwait/Saudi Arabia doesn't have conflicting policies with the US (the ones that count, anyways)

Yes Osama comes from his Wahabi Saudi background, and yes he was running the Eastern flank for ex-bodies CIA in dismantling the old Soviets!