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The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

ontheyslay wrote: Best economy sure, not best living conditions, and I don't know who you are foolling but the US is not internationally respected, they are feared, not respected.

before the start of the american decline, we were internationally respected, and we did have the best living conditions in the world.

if you ahd actually read in context what i was saying you would have noticed it was the pre-decline period

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

The Comrade wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Best economy sure, not best living conditions, and I don't know who you are foolling but the US is not internationally respected, they are feared, not respected.

before the start of the american decline, we were internationally respected, and we did have the best living conditions in the world.

if you ahd actually read in context what i was saying you would have noticed it was the pre-decline period

There was no claim of context, you made no mention of the US being previously the best country in the world. Your wording was in present tense.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

ontheyslay wrote:

There was no claim of context, you made no mention of the US being previously the best country in the world. Your wording was in present tense.

"not sure if america was ever the greatest country"

which implies the past. i then made a statement regarding that.

this battle of semantics is stupid. address the points or move along.

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

The Comrade wrote: ontheyslay wrote:

There was no claim of context, you made no mention of the US being previously the best country in the world. Your wording was in present tense.

"not sure if america was ever the greatest country"

which implies the past. i then made a statement regarding that.

this battle of semantics is stupid. address the points or move along.

You started the battle of semantics. I doubt that you just read my first sentence and based your response on that. Perhaps you should read the whole post and respond accordingly.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

ontheyslay wrote:
You started the battle of semantics. I doubt that you just read my first sentence and based your response on that. Perhaps you should read the whole post and respond accordingly.

i read it, responded.

argue the points or move along.

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

The Comrade wrote: ontheyslay wrote:
You started the battle of semantics. I doubt that you just read my first sentence and based your response on that. Perhaps you should read the whole post and respond accordingly.

i read it, responded.

argue the points or move along.

I did argue the points, but you seem to want to dwell on the past

Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

What is the greatest country now then? Have you been there? Is it tempting to stay? Just curious. 8:)

Ozzone · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject:

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: oopss ... sorry for the triple post.

There is a delete option you know.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

ontheyslay wrote:
I did argue the points, but you seem to want to dwell on the past

no i'm afraid you did not. you did not prove your point that america was never the best country, past or present.

i'm still waiting.

Ozzone · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject:

If America isn't the GREATEST country in the world anymore - WHAT IS??????

pyrophasma · Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 591 Location: Georgia

Mr. Sunshine wrote: What is the greatest country now then? Have you been there? Is it tempting to stay? Just curious. 8:)

Poland, of course.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

Ozzone wrote: If America isn't the GREATEST country in the world anymore - WHAT IS??????

currently we are the only remaining superpower. last time i checked superpowers=greatest nations.

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject:

pyrophasma wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: What is the greatest country now then? Have you been there? Is it tempting to stay? Just curious. 8:)

Poland, of course.

Im going to agree, poland is flat out amazing.

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

The Comrade wrote: ontheyslay wrote:
I did argue the points, but you seem to want to dwell on the past

no i'm afraid you did not. you did not prove your point that america was never the best country, past or present.

i'm still waiting.

I said the most money and biggest miltary does not constitute the best country in the world. You have to take into account access to quality health care, education quality, standards of living, racial equality, government corruption levels, and the level of freedom. All of which, now that Bush has been in office, have seriously lacked behind most western European countries.

CountryGuy · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 1117 Location: Pennsylvania

"Greatest" would apply to any number of factors. Healthcare? Well, the Netherlands are supposed to be fantastic, and has universal coverage. However, are they the greatest militarily? China's GDP is amazing at this point. However, their views on freedom leave people wanting.

The "greatest" will use any number of criteria, and each person has their own set of criteria on what makes a country the "greatest". Essentially, its an impossible question to answer.

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

thefranzkafkafront wrote: pyrophasma wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: What is the greatest country now then? Have you been there? Is it tempting to stay? Just curious. 8:)

Poland, of course.

Im going to agree, poland is flat out amazing.

Amazing? IF it weren't for the EU money, it wouldn't havee been that good.

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

Ozzone wrote: If America isn't the GREATEST country in the world anymore - WHAT IS??????

Sweden

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: thefranzkafkafront wrote: pyrophasma wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: What is the greatest country now then? Have you been there? Is it tempting to stay? Just curious. 8:)

Poland, of course.

Im going to agree, poland is flat out amazing.

Amazing? IF it weren't for the EU money, it wouldn't havee been that good.

What's your point? It's still one of the best countries to live in, regardless of where they received their funding.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

ontheyslay wrote:
I said the most money and biggest miltary does not constitute the best country in the world. You have to take into account access to quality health care, education quality, standards of living, racial equality, government corruption levels, and the level of freedom. All of which, now that Bush has been in office, have seriously lacked behind most western European countries.

europe is mostly socialist. and the reason they all have healthcare is because the government taxes the s**t out of it's citizens. our education is some of hte best in the world. we actually educate everyone, unlike almost the entire world which educates the rich and the bright. almost all of the world is steeped in racism and racial inequality. government corruption does not make a country bad, it makes a government bad. and america is currently one of the most free nations in the world.

Wizard From Oz · Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 11297 Location: Kansas

Quote: The "greatest" will use any number of criteria, and each person has their own set of criteria on what makes a country the "greatest". Essentially, its an impossible question to answer.

Exactly - which makes many of these threads so difficult. One mans meat is another mans poision