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[kvee]

Let's face it our education system s*cks, not only that but our hospitals are going down, we are hated around the world, we are losing alot of money, we are gaining more and more people within poverty. What do you guys think? It seems like we are the British and Iraq are like the Minute men, lets put it in that context.

[dodger.17]

Alright, I do not agree with the example, it doesn't fit in a lot of ways. But I get what you are trying to say, however, alot of this Americans have brought upon themselves. In terms of Education, it is still fairly strong in some areas of the Midwest, but compared to Japan, it s*cks. We should have a longer school year, but parents oppose that b/c the kids need a break, whatever! We should have greater grad requirements in science and math, but then where is the freedom that allows our kids to pursue the arts. Name a great Japanese composer of the past fifty years. Our hospital system isn't as much bad as Americans are unhealthy and the majority of major hospitals are located in the polluted inner-city. In terms of hatred, much of that has sprung up sonce Bush took power and with luck can be remedied once he is out of office if we can get a charismatic leader who will travel the world and work on foreign relations, call it The Great Foreign Relations Tour, what I believe to be a major goal for whoever our next president is.

[ZeroTolerance]

kvee wrote: Let's face it our education system s*cks, not only that but our hospitals are going down, we are hated around the world, we are losing alot of money, we are gaining more and more people within poverty. What do you guys think? It seems like we are the British and Iraq are like the Minute men, lets put it in that context.

While this post is very vague and rhetorical, there is some truth. But then again, partial truth can be found in anything.

Next week, the Louisville/Jefferson county public school system will stand before the Supreme Court to make a case for their widely controversial anti-quota plan, which takes the "forced diversity" plan that American school systems use and puts it in the trash can. And I agree.

I think this is the main problem in our educational system: the disconnection of federal government from local school systems around the country. The Louisville plan is to do away with racial quotas and stop "forcing" diversity within schools, so like-minded students who want to actually be in a learning environment can learn where they want.

I applaud the Louisville/Jefferson county public school system for standing up against an inept education plan and execution by the US federal government.

[Richard Owl Mirror]

The current Winds of Change are only causing our bright light to flicker.
Have no fear, the Beacon of Freedom shall never be snuffed out completely.

[dodger.17]

Wait, I will admit that I do not know enough about this topic, but are you saying that by eliminating racial diversity students will be ablt to learn better?

[Richard Owl Mirror]

dodger.17 wrote: Alright, I do not agree with the example, it doesn't fit in a lot of ways. But I get what you are trying to say, however, alot of this Americans have brought upon themselves. In terms of Education, it is still fairly strong in some areas of the Midwest, but compared to Japan, it s*cks. We should have a longer school year, but parents oppose that b/c the kids need a break, whatever! We should have greater grad requirements in science and math, but then where is the freedom that allows our kids to pursue the arts. Name a great Japanese composer of the past fifty years. Our hospital system isn't as much bad as Americans are unhealthy and the majority of major hospitals are located in the polluted inner-city. In terms of hatred, much of that has sprung up sonce Bush took power and with luck can be remedied once he is out of office if we can get a charismatic leader who will travel the world and work on foreign relations, call it The Great Foreign Relations Tour, what I believe to be a major goal for whoever our next president is.


The Great Foreign Relations Tour
President Bill Clinton as Secretary of State or Ambassador to the United Nations !

[Richard Owl Mirror]

dodger.17 wrote: Wait, I will admit that I do not know enough about this topic, but are you saying that by eliminating racial diversity students will be ablt to learn better?

NO he's saying White People can go to schools without minorities.
This way, all the school funding can be directed to schools for full funding of educational programs that White kids can partake in, leaving the other schools filled with minorities and poor funding.

IMO :roll:

[dodger.17]

I would be behind that 100%

[American Ceasar]

I disagree, America is still the strongest nation in the world both economically and militarly; people still believe in "The American Dream"; American culture dominates the world today from sports icons, to movies, to pop music; the world wolfs down Big Macs and washes them down with Coca-Cola. And there are still millions of people waiting to get into the USA.

However, America does have its problems. Fortunately, the Falconist Party has a 40-Point platform to tackle those problems and put America in position for greater days ahead.

[dodger.17]

Thats what I thought he meant, isn't that kinda what is already happening with inner-city schools?

[kvee]

I was reading this article in the Wall Street talking about how many major public hospitals particularly in the inner cities have to shut down due to many uninsured patients who go there and the hospitals have to serve them, then hospitals lose money and shut down. There is a major hospital in Chicago who is going through this problem currently and had to shut down key departments such as the mental health dept. but still keeps it open for severe emergency cases only. These major public hospitals ended up moving to the suburbs and becoming private, where they make a hell alot more money... under insured people? Hospitals shutting down? what does that spell?

[dodger.17]

Wait, the Falconist Party? You guys are the ones that want forced service to the country, right? No thanks

[kvee]

American Ceasar wrote: I disagree, America is still the strongest nation in the world both economically and militarly; people still believe in "The American Dream"; American culture dominates the world today from sports icons, to movies, to pop music; the world wolfs down Big Macs and washes them down with Coca-Cola. And there are still millions of people waiting to get into the USA.

However, America does have its problems. Fortunately, the Falconist Party has a 40-Point platform to tackle those problems and put America in position for greater days ahead.

people are beginning to hate the western culture. everyone else plays soccer , we play football. I guess you can say music is an influence. Pepsi and Coca-Cola are losing sales in India and many other parts of the country. the AMERICAN DREAM IS A MYTH... Economically we are not the strongest, military wise either... just because we go to Iraq and peice of s**t country to begin with doesn't exactly make us the best militarily. Look at China, India, Iran, North Korea.... Let's face it we are still relying on what America was 50 years ago, the truth is everything that goes up must come down. America is on the path of going down, our ego got to us...

[dodger.17]

I would say music and movies are still an important influence, and as for the American dream, it is a myth, but it gives hope and if people come here and are willing to work, they will in many cases be better off than they were in their home-country

[psholtz]

American Ceasar wrote: I disagree, America is still the strongest nation in the world both economically and militarly; people still believe in "The American Dream"; American culture dominates the world today from sports icons, to movies, to pop music; the world wolfs down Big Macs and washes them down with Coca-Cola. And there are still millions of people waiting to get into the USA.
You're actually proud of McDonald's and Coca-Cola? :shock:


America's Best and Brightest

[Thrilla]

the US is the greatest county in the world.... to me.
thats good enough for me

[MG1962]

Quote: I disagree, America is still the strongest nation in the world both economically and militarly; people still believe in "The American Dream"; American culture dominates the world today from sports icons, to movies, to pop music; the world wolfs down Big Macs and washes them down with Coca-Cola. And there are still millions of people waiting to get into the USA.

I'd disagree on the sports people - Outside Golf and Tennis, most of your super star sports people are largely unknown outside the US.

And by way of some firm figures. 9 million people applied under the cultural diversification program for 55,000 spots in the 2006 lottery. They expect the figure to be close to 13 million for 2007.

With the education issue, the US has almost an open door immigration program for people with Phds or higher. Unfortunately I dont have accurate figures on that, but I am led to believe up to 250,0000 people immigrate through this process

[agentkgb]

American Ceasar wrote: I disagree, America is still the strongest nation in the world both economically
Economically we're dependent on oil and loans from other nations.
American Ceasar wrote: people still believe in "The American Dream";
It's not exactly exclusively American.
American Ceasar wrote: American culture dominates the world today from sports icons, to movies, to pop music;
Yeah, like soccer and hockey. :roll:
And America being the center for Britney Spears doesn't make me happy about being an American.
American Ceasar wrote: the world wolfs down Big Macs and washes them down with Coca-Cola.
Great...

[Vargo]

Quote: AMERICA NOT THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ANYMORE

I don't think it ever was =/ America had a great economic status but the government never did good with it. At one point just because of war the countries deficit was falling...fast, they actually had to borrow money from china (Soon going to be known as the best economic country in the world) China may be Half communist half Democrat but I think that's what made them who they are now. For Having massive possession of drugs they don't give them 10 years in jail...they give them 50...or something like that :?. The students are being bombarded with tests and school work so they can be chinas future and maybe get china to exel as a country. People may not like the way they do it but china is going to be the new America...and not the free part but they are gonna get veto privlages in the UN too O.o

U.S.A is a country known as the land of the free so it atracts many people to move there smart or not...The kids in the US schools are not even that educated many people are dropping out, Many homeless people...what they need is the old reganomics but yea US deficit is coming to bite the government right in the ass.

War is horrible for the US because of destroyed veicles and putting more troops in the battlefield, while china doesnt have to pay this because...they arn't fighting any wars right now...so this is how i see it. :lol: US can always be Second best :wink:

P.s: maybe 3rd best...next to canada xD

[Zadoc]

kvee wrote: Let's face it our education system s*cks, not only that but our hospitals are going down, we are hated around the world, we are losing alot of money, we are gaining more and more people within poverty. What do you guys think?

Well, you can thank a for-profit health insurance industry and illegal aliens for the decline of US hospitals.

And you can thank Republicans for the rise of poverty and centralization of wealth.

So, if you want to fix things, start voting for liberal progressive candidates in every election.