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Kumar



Joined: 21 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject:  

Canada_Rocks wrote:
If they are a citizen that is another story. And you are right, it is a primitive attitude. Protecting your tride just like forging for food and having sex. Is there somethign worng with this? It isn't like they are going all irrational and hanging people here. When it leads to violence it is never appropriate but france has every right to keep it's country french.
The fact that they are citizens is where the problem lies. It's not just that the French (and I am speaking generally here) are opposed to immigrants who refuse to adapt, because there is nothing at all unreasonable about that. The fact is that many French who are citizens but happen to have been born outside French borders are looked down upon. That is simply not right. It just makes it that much harder for immigrants to integrate once they land on French soil.

The bottom line is that there's nothing wrong with taking steps to maintain national identity, but singling out outsiders is the wrong way to approach things.
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Akajjred



Joined: 12 Nov 2005
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Location: San Francisco

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:44 am    Post subject:  

Here's a thought, why do people who have a preconceived notion that "white" people are bad move to the West? If you don't like white people then why the f**k are you moving here? I'm very defensive of my culture, you should not be able to become a citizen if you are not fluent in the language, know the basic history, and basic aspects of the culture.
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Canada_Rocks



Joined: 07 Jan 2005
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject:  

Kumar wrote: Canada_Rocks wrote:
If they are a citizen that is another story. And you are right, it is a primitive attitude. Protecting your tride just like forging for food and having sex. Is there somethign worng with this? It isn't like they are going all irrational and hanging people here. When it leads to violence it is never appropriate but france has every right to keep it's country french.
The fact that they are citizens is where the problem lies. It's not just that the French (and I am speaking generally here) are opposed to immigrants who refuse to adapt, because there is nothing at all unreasonable about that. The fact is that many French who are citizens but happen to have been born outside French borders are looked down upon. That is simply not right. It just makes it that much harder for immigrants to integrate once they land on French soil.

The bottom line is that there's nothing wrong with taking steps to maintain national identity, but singling out outsiders is the wrong way to approach things.

Well yeah, if they are citizens then they should be respected as such.
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Canada_Rocks



Joined: 07 Jan 2005
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject:  

Akajjred wrote: Here's a thought, why do people who have a preconceived notion that "white" people are bad move to the West? If you don't like white people then why the f**k are you moving here? I'm very defensive of my culture, you should not be able to become a citizen if you are not fluent in the language, know the basic history, and basic aspects of the culture.

ahh the gwailo. Hey you gwailo!!!!!

I agree completely.
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