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ontheyslay
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Canada_Rocks wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Bush must have found out that just because you are a religious extremist, doesn't mean you are a fascist. Hezbollah for instance is an extremist group, but they have a large social welfare program. You can't really call them fascists.
Tell that to the Lebanese Christian politician that was just assasinated for Hezbollah's political gain in what is left of Lebanon. :roll:
Quote: Within the region, Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa called the killing of Christian Gemayel a "terrorist assassination," adding that he feared "it could lead to turmoil in the country."
www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20061122-084850-1694r
What does this have to do with fascism?
Can't you see it. suspected assasination=fascim. It's as clear as day to me. Just like Pineapples = democracy.
Makes sense. Only fascists would assasinate someone for political gain. |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: |
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ontheyslay wrote: Canada_Rocks wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Bush must have found out that just because you are a religious extremist, doesn't mean you are a fascist. Hezbollah for instance is an extremist group, but they have a large social welfare program. You can't really call them fascists.
Tell that to the Lebanese Christian politician that was just assasinated for Hezbollah's political gain in what is left of Lebanon. :roll:
Quote: Within the region, Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa called the killing of Christian Gemayel a "terrorist assassination," adding that he feared "it could lead to turmoil in the country."
www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20061122-084850-1694r
What does this have to do with fascism?
Can't you see it. suspected assasination=fascim. It's as clear as day to me. Just like Pineapples = democracy.
Makes sense. Only fascists would assasinate someone for political gain.
Obviously. They also make an apple pie to die for. |
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ontheyslay
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Canada_Rocks wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Canada_Rocks wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Bush must have found out that just because you are a religious extremist, doesn't mean you are a fascist. Hezbollah for instance is an extremist group, but they have a large social welfare program. You can't really call them fascists.
Tell that to the Lebanese Christian politician that was just assasinated for Hezbollah's political gain in what is left of Lebanon. :roll:
Quote: Within the region, Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa called the killing of Christian Gemayel a "terrorist assassination," adding that he feared "it could lead to turmoil in the country."
www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20061122-084850-1694r
What does this have to do with fascism?
Can't you see it. suspected assasination=fascim. It's as clear as day to me. Just like Pineapples = democracy.
Makes sense. Only fascists would assasinate someone for political gain.
Obviously. They also make an apple pie to die for.
I wonder if they only let fascists eat it. |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Crazy. One tree Hill just came on and you should have seen me go for the remote. Dodged the cat, back flipped over the couch and then hit the channel up button in one swoop. |
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blockhead
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lovebush wrote: mr.snruB wrote: Do people who use the term "Islamofascist" ever think how are terrorists are even like fascists at all?
they use violence against political opponents fear and intimidation against the population and they are nationalistic. but I dont usually use the term.
You're talking about the Bush admin, right? It's okay to say bush. |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Quote: I wonder if they only let fascists eat it.
I'd imagine. Communists maybe.
I think that any state with a swasztika, a fuher and Islam is allowed to eat the great pie. |
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Canada_Rocks
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: |
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CAUTION
Islamofascist interests:
Baking Fascist apple pies and hating inocent children, cute puppies and freedom
.....since 1952.
This wanring was brought to you buy a concered police state in favour of conditional freedom and government surveyed liberty. |
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Thrilla
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| i suggest a debate or discussion take place in here.... this trollfest will be locked otherwise |
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Chymical
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| Squirrel Fascist! |
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bla bla
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Wiki wrote:
In a 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism" [4], the Italian writer and academic Umberto Eco attempts to list general properties of fascist ideology. He claims that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism.
The features of fascism he lists are as follows:
"The Cult of Tradition", combining cultural syncretism with a rejection of modernism (often disguised as a rejection of capitalism).
"The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dicatates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
"Disagreement is Treason" - fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action.
"Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
"Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
"Obsession With a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often involves an appeal to xenophobia or the identification of an internal security threat. He cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
"Pacifism is Trafficking With the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" - there must always be an enemy to fight.
"Contempt for the Weak" - although a fascist society is elitist, everybody in the society is educated to become a hero.
"Selective Populism" - the People have a common will, which is not delegated but interpreted by a leader. This may involve doubt being cast upon a democratic institution, because "it no longer represents the Voice of the People".
"Newspeak" - fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism
Just add radical Islam, and shake.
"The Cult of Tradition",
radical Islams rejection of modernism (often disguised as a rejection
of capitalism) manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
An appeal to xenophobia in the form of racism or an appeal against
foreigners and immigrants, and involving doubt being cast upon the
democratic institutions of the West.
"Disagreement is Treason", and everybody in the society will be
educated to become a hero (martyr). |
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Chymical
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| just think, oceania is at war with islamocommiefascists, oceania has always been at war with islamocommiefascists. |
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Kumar
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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ontheyslay wrote: Canada_Rocks wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Bush must have found out that just because you are a religious extremist, doesn't mean you are a fascist. Hezbollah for instance is an extremist group, but they have a large social welfare program. You can't really call them fascists.
Socialwelfare fascists?
That's an oxymoron.
Not necessarily. Fascism is based on authoritarian collectivism and does not exclude social welfare programs. |
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Thrilla
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| well.. didnt take long for the trolling to continue....locked |
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