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Saracen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Duchifas wrote: Oh, of course your picture doesn't include the Kassam missiles and suicide bombers and their victims. But that's ok, we don't need that to get the "whole picture." After all, missiles aimed at Jews aren't really missiles. They are just fireworks. So it's ok to leave that out of the "whole picture."
Both sides are killing each other off, and I'm not saying this for the sake of fairness. I'm saying this so we could get back to the point of this thread.
Btw, does "B'rit Hadashah" mean the NT? |
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Babylon_Horuv
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Mailech wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote: I am glad to see a Jew addressing the original question. The idea of a messiah who accepts someone who does not accept him is foreign to me, but interesting. I would also like to join the others in rideculing the Christians who attempted to refocus the thread on Jesus.
Well they will accept the Messiah just not in the sense of Christianity. They will not think that he is G-d of that he died for their sins. They will think he is a righteous person who is the king of Israel.
And does the coming of the Messiah indicate the end of the material world? |
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Babylon_Horuv
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nathyn wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Quote: But really, what good can you say about Israel, even for a Jewish standpoint, when it was established by atheistic Communists, is funded by idolatrous Christians, wages war against monotheistic Muslims, and over the course of half a century, and has yet to lead to the coming of the Messiah?
Don't you know that God turns all our bad into good?
There has not been a human endeavor yet that the same type of things could not be said about it.
Yet there is plenty of good in the world.
The Almighty uses the weak things of the world to show His greatness.
There isn't necessarily just as much good as evil. If a person murders another person, yeah, the family gets inheritance and the man's body fertilizes the ground, but that's hardly equal to his life.
If he lived rightously then he gets eternal oneness with God. That sounds worth it. |
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Mailech
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Saracen wrote: Btw, does "B'rit Hadashah" mean the NT?
Yes, it is the cap'n's way of Judifying the Gospels. |
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Mailech
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Babylon_Horuv wrote: Mailech wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote: I am glad to see a Jew addressing the original question. The idea of a messiah who accepts someone who does not accept him is foreign to me, but interesting. I would also like to join the others in rideculing the Christians who attempted to refocus the thread on Jesus.
Well they will accept the Messiah just not in the sense of Christianity. They will not think that he is G-d of that he died for their sins. They will think he is a righteous person who is the king of Israel.
And does the coming of the Messiah indicate the end of the material world?
Not sure, but most likely not. It indicates a coming of an age of enlightenment so to speak. Peace, universal KNOWLEDGE of G-d.
The end of the material world is a later. Then will be the resurection of the dead. |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Mailech wrote: Saracen wrote: Btw, does "B'rit Hadashah" mean the NT?
Yes, it is the cap'n's way of Judifying the Gospels.
It means New Covenant, Saracen. |
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John
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mailech wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote: Mailech wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote: I am glad to see a Jew addressing the original question. The idea of a messiah who accepts someone who does not accept him is foreign to me, but interesting. I would also like to join the others in rideculing the Christians who attempted to refocus the thread on Jesus.
Well they will accept the Messiah just not in the sense of Christianity. They will not think that he is G-d of that he died for their sins. They will think he is a righteous person who is the king of Israel.
And does the coming of the Messiah indicate the end of the material world?
Not sure, but most likely not. It indicates a coming of an age of enlightenment so to speak. Peace, universal KNOWLEDGE of G-d.
The end of the material world is a later. Then will be the resurection of the dead.
What is the point of a "Resurrection" without a material world? The material world will be destroyed, and then reconstructed back to it a perfect state that will last for all eternity. |
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Mailech
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John wrote: What is the point of a "Resurrection" without a material world? The material world will be destroyed, and then reconstructed back to it a perfect state that will last for all eternity.
I meant the material world as we know it. |
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John
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Mailech wrote: John wrote: What is the point of a "Resurrection" without a material world? The material world will be destroyed, and then reconstructed back to it a perfect state that will last for all eternity.
I meant the material world as we know it.
I'd agree with that. :-D |
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