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[Duchifas]

John wrote: You can't see how a Palestinian would see those cartoons as a jab in the ribs?

Oh, I am sorry, I couldn't find an appropriate cartoon congratulating my Palestinian cousins on the wise choice they made at the polls last year. Maybe you could find one for me.

Also, I was wondering, what would your personal attitude be to people who elect a murderous terror organization into office. Offer them some land? :roll:

[Nathyn]

Duchifas wrote: Nathyn wrote: A history professor of mine once named what he thought were the four most influential scholars of modern history. And three out of four of them (Marx, Freud, and Einstein) were Jews.

Marx was a "scholar?" :rotf: Are we talking about Karl? Or some other Marx that I am not aware of....?
He said Marx was one of the most "influential," not the brightest. The professor himself hated Marx and gave what I think was an unfair critique of him.

I don't think anybody can deny that Marx was widely influential. For nearly half of the 20th century the western world was terrified because of Marx's teachings and today, the second most powerful nation on Earth, poised to become the next superpower, is dominated by Marxism.

Duchifas wrote: John wrote: You can't see how a Palestinian would see those cartoons as a jab in the ribs?

Oh, I am sorry, I couldn't find an appropriate cartoon congratulating my Palestinian cousins on the wise choice they made at the polls last year. Maybe you could find one for me.

Also, I was wondering, what would your personal attitude be to people who elect a murderous terror organization into office. Offer them some land? :roll:
Because every Palestinian is a Hamas-supporting terrorist.

Brilliant generalization.

At least now I understand how you justify Israel firing missiles at innocent civilians and running over peace activists with bulldozers.

I think John complaining about your sig is trite, because it does make somewhat of a point, but what you just said was pretty ignorant... Like terrorists referring to "THE JEWS," as one collective entity.

[Duchifas]

Nathyn wrote: Duchifas wrote: Nathyn wrote: A history professor of mine once named what he thought were the four most influential scholars of modern history. And three out of four of them (Marx, Freud, and Einstein) were Jews.

Marx was a "scholar?" :rotf: Are we talking about Karl? Or some other Marx that I am not aware of....?
He said Marx was one of the most "influential," not the brightest. The professor himself hated Marx and gave what I think was an unfair critique of him.

I don't think anybody can deny that Marx was widely influential. For nearly half of the 20th century the western world was terrified because of Marx's teachings and today, the second most powerful nation on Earth, poised to become the next superpower, is dominated by Marxism.

I didn't question his "influence." I question his status as a scholar. Hitler was also pretty influential, though Main Kampf is a far cry from scholarship.

Just because one writes a couple of silly books does not one a scholar
make.

Quote: Duchifas wrote: John wrote: You can't see how a Palestinian would see those cartoons as a jab in the ribs?

Oh, I am sorry, I couldn't find an appropriate cartoon congratulating my Palestinian cousins on the wise choice they made at the polls last year. Maybe you could find one for me.

Also, I was wondering, what would your personal attitude be to people who elect a murderous terror organization into office. Offer them some land? :roll:
Because every Palestinian is a Hamas-supporting terrorist.

Brilliant generalization.

Not every. But enough to have Hamas win the election. By a landslide.

Quote: At least now I understand how you justify Israel firing missiles at innocent civilians and running over peace activists with bulldozers.

No, you got it wrong. I usually justify firing missiles are peace activists and running over innocent civilians with bulldozers. Please, let's be more accurate, ok? And also, please, don't omit anything. I thought it is common knowledge that I get a shipment of Palestinian blood every year before Passover, so I can mix it in with my matzah. How did you forget that one?

Quote: I think John complaining about your sig is trite, because it does make somewhat of a point, but what you just said was pretty ignorant... Like terrorists referring to "THE JEWS," as one collective entity.

That's right, I am JUST like those terrorists. Now everybody knows, your mission is accomplished.

[Nathyn]

Duchifas wrote: Nathyn wrote: Duchifas wrote: Nathyn wrote: A history professor of mine once named what he thought were the four most influential scholars of modern history. And three out of four of them (Marx, Freud, and Einstein) were Jews.

Marx was a "scholar?" :rotf: Are we talking about Karl? Or some other Marx that I am not aware of....?
He said Marx was one of the most "influential," not the brightest. The professor himself hated Marx and gave what I think was an unfair critique of him.

I don't think anybody can deny that Marx was widely influential. For nearly half of the 20th century the western world was terrified because of Marx's teachings and today, the second most powerful nation on Earth, poised to become the next superpower, is dominated by Marxism.

I didn't question his "influence." I question his status as a scholar. Hitler was also pretty influential, though Main Kampf is a far cry from scholarship.

Just because one writes a couple of silly books does not one a scholar
make.
His writings are just as extensive, if not more so, than some of his Classical Liberal precursors. "Das Kapital," isn't exactly something he wrote overnight. He didn't even manage to finish it before he died.

Duchifas wrote: Quote: Duchifas wrote: John wrote: You can't see how a Palestinian would see those cartoons as a jab in the ribs?

Oh, I am sorry, I couldn't find an appropriate cartoon congratulating my Palestinian cousins on the wise choice they made at the polls last year. Maybe you could find one for me.

Also, I was wondering, what would your personal attitude be to people who elect a murderous terror organization into office. Offer them some land? :roll:
Because every Palestinian is a Hamas-supporting terrorist.

Brilliant generalization.
Not every. But enough to have Hamas win the election. By a landslide.
If they voted for Fatah instead, would you have felt any differently?

Duchifas wrote: Quote: At least now I understand how you justify Israel firing missiles at innocent civilians and running over peace activists with bulldozers.

No, you got it wrong. I usually justify firing missiles are peace activists and running over innocent civilians with bulldozers. Please, let's be more accurate, ok? And also, please, don't omit anything. I thought it is common knowledge that I get a shipment of Palestinian blood every year before Passover, so I can mix it in with my matzah. How did you forget that one?
OK, so I'm wrong, then? You don't justify either one?

Duchifas wrote: Quote: I think John complaining about your sig is trite, because it does make somewhat of a point, but what you just said was pretty ignorant... Like terrorists referring to "THE JEWS," as one collective entity.

That's right, I am JUST like those terrorists. Now everybody knows, your mission is accomplished.
OK, I admit it's a poor analogy. You're not like the terrorists because you don't exactly go out and kill anybody or even necessarily support murder. You just care about your nation and feel rather heartless and insensitive towards others who want your nation destroyed. In other words, to be fair, I'd say you're far more comparable to those who voted for Hamas.

[Duchifas]

Lemme know when you are done crying your little heart out for the poor hapless Palestinians who just want to live in peace with everyone, but nobody lets them.

[cap'n queasy]

:lol:

[Saracen]

Duchifas wrote: Lemme know when you are done crying your little heart out for the poor hapless Palestinians who just want to live in peace with everyone, but nobody lets them.

Welcome back, Duchifas. I'm not surprised you've returned to the same old, lame old shameless rhetoric... :lol: :roll:

Quote: Can you please explain the connection you are trying to make between a political cartoon and my alleged vengefulness, bitterness and and hatred? I am certainly missing it.

Keep politics and religion separate. Also, you shouldn't let politics get the better of you if you truly believe in God, because He is the Ultimate Authority, not someone like Dubya Bush or good ol' Ari.

[Babylon_Horuv]

The Russian wrote: May I dare as an atheist to bud in... I'm formerly jewish and have rabbinic blood in the family from both sides, and remain an ethnic jew no matter what I believe. During the process of my personal realizations I actually spoke to a rabbi that came to my university to talk, and this is what he explained to me through a series of questions...

Jesus was no the jewish messiah, he was religious and moral teacher, but he blasphemed when he declared himself the son of Yahweh and asked his followers to believe in him as such.

When I asked about how could the belief in Jesus become so big while not being the son of god and the true prophet... he side-stepped the question and replied, "why dont you ask a christian priest how could Muhammad attain such a following and not be the true prophet".

All I can speak from is my personal understanding of the things I was told while making my decision... and even though I have relegated religious belief to the "superstition" section of my mind, it is not to say I don't still stumble on contradictions in those who believe in either way.

So how about the Jewish Messiah? Will he save the gentiles as well?

[Nathyn]

Duchifas wrote: Lemme know when you are done crying your little heart out for the poor hapless Palestinians who just want to live in peace with everyone, but nobody lets them.
Look, as I said, your cartoon does make a very valid point.

But it doesn't show the whole picture.

[Duchifas]

Very cute, though also doesn't show the complete picture. You mistakenly put evil Zionist flags on the bombs. Of course, as everyone knows, the bombs used by the evil Zionist entity are manufactured in the evil pro-Zionist entity, the U.S. Thus, the evil Zionists are slaughtering the poor, wholly innocent Palestinians, with the complicity and aid of the Great Satan that is America. So please, let's be accurate here. Put an American flag on the bombs. Or "Made With Pride in the USA." Only then, will we see the "whole picture."

Oh, of course your picture doesn't include the Kassam missiles and suicide bombers and their victims. But that's ok, we don't need that to get the "whole picture." After all, missiles aimed at Jews aren't really missiles. They are just fireworks. So it's ok to leave that out of the "whole picture."

Good job, Nathyn. With skills like yours, you could work as a photographer for Agence France Press. Or Reuters. Perhaps you could even be their photo editor. You certainly have the "necessary" skills.

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21956_Reuters_Doctoring_Photos_from_Beirut&only

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_print=1&x_context=2&x_outlet=2&x_article=1175

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3287774,00.html

[Mailech]

Babylon_Horuv wrote: I am glad to see a Jew addressing the original question. The idea of a messiah who accepts someone who does not accept him is foreign to me, but interesting. I would also like to join the others in rideculing the Christians who attempted to refocus the thread on Jesus.

Well they will accept the Messiah just not in the sense of Christianity. They will not think that he is G-d of that he died for their sins. They will think he is a righteous person who is the king of Israel.

[Nathyn]

Duchifas wrote: Very cute, though also doesn't show the complete picture. You mistakenly put evil Zionist flags on the bombs. Of course, as everyone knows, the bombs used by the evil Zionist entity are manufactured in the evil pro-Zionist entity, the U.S. Thus, the evil Zionists are slaughtering the poor, wholly innocent Palestinians, with the complicity and aid of the Great Satan that is America. So please, let's be accurate here. Put an American flag on the bombs. Or "Made With Pride in the USA." Only then, will we see the "whole picture."
I wanted to, actually, but I couldn't fit the Magen David on the plane and of course, without that, the Israel reference wouldn't be so obvious.

Duchifas wrote: Oh, of course your picture doesn't include the Kassam missiles and suicide bombers and their victims. But that's ok, we don't need that to get the "whole picture." After all, missiles aimed at Jews aren't really missiles. They are just fireworks. So it's ok to leave that out of the "whole picture."

Good job, Nathyn. With skills like yours, you could work as a photographer for Agence France Press. Or Reuters. Perhaps you could even be their photo editor. You certainly have the "necessary" skills.

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21956_Reuters_Doctoring_Photos_from_Beirut&only

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_print=1&x_context=2&x_outlet=2&x_article=1175

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3287774,00.html
I certainly could, but I'm sure God would forgive me, so long as I don't enter law.

But really, what good can you say about Israel, even for a Jewish standpoint, when it was established by atheistic Communists, is funded by idolatrous Christians, wages war against monotheistic Muslims, and over the course of half a century, and has yet to lead to the coming of the Messiah?

[Duchifas]

Nathyn wrote: Duchifas wrote: Very cute, though also doesn't show the complete picture. You mistakenly put evil Zionist flags on the bombs. Of course, as everyone knows, the bombs used by the evil Zionist entity are manufactured in the evil pro-Zionist entity, the U.S. Thus, the evil Zionists are slaughtering the poor, wholly innocent Palestinians, with the complicity and aid of the Great Satan that is America. So please, let's be accurate here. Put an American flag on the bombs. Or "Made With Pride in the USA." Only then, will we see the "whole picture."
I wanted to, actually, but I couldn't fit the Magen David on the plane and of course, without that, the Israel reference wouldn't be so obvious.

Couldn't fit it? Hmm, well I guess you are not so fit to doctor up, oooops, I mean, edit pictures for Reuters and AFP. Keep working on yo skills, man.

[Duchifas]

Quote: But really, what good can you say about Israel, even for a Jewish standpoint, when it was established by atheistic Communists, is funded by idolatrous Christians, wages war against monotheistic Muslims, and over the course of half a century, and has yet to lead to the coming of the Messiah?


About the state of Israel, these days, unfortunately I can't say much good. Hence I don't say much at all. Clearly for different reasons than the stupidity you posted, except the atheist-Commie reference. That did hit bullseye, so you get some credit.

[cap'n queasy]

Mailech wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote: I am glad to see a Jew addressing the original question. The idea of a messiah who accepts someone who does not accept him is foreign to me, but interesting. I would also like to join the others in rideculing the Christians who attempted to refocus the thread on Jesus.

Well they will accept the Messiah just not in the sense of Christianity. They will not think that he is G-d of that he died for their sins. They will think he is a righteous person who is the king of Israel.

*sigh*
Undoubtably many probably will. But this is not what the B'rit Hadashah tells us.

What it tells us is that a seemingly righteous man will rise and rule the entire world and bring a false peace to Israel for three and a half years. But then he will reveal himself as the son of perdition, bring the abomination of desolation, wreak destruction on the entire world causing the entire world to turn against Israel, and then at the moment of Israel's total destruction they will cry out for Moshiach to save them.

When Moshiach comes there will be no mistake because that will be the end of the world we know now, and the beginning of Moshiach's Millenial Kingdom.

In the words of Y'shua:
Quote: Matthew 23:34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, 35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 "Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38 "Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! 39 "For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, `BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!' "

Matthew 24:1 Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. 2 And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down."

3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

4 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you. 5 "For many will come in My name, saying, `I am the Christ,' and will mislead many. 6 "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. 8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10 "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. 11 "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. 12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. 13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. 14 "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

15 "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17 "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. 18 "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21 "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. 22 "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 "Then if anyone says to you, `Behold, here is the Christ,' or `There He is,' do not believe him. 24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. 25 "Behold, I have told you in advance. 26 "So if they say to you, `Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, or, `Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them. 27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 "Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

29 "But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31 "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

32 "Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33 so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. 38 "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41 "Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.

42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43 "But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. 44 "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

45 "Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 "Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes. 47 "Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 "But if that evil slave says in his heart, `My master is not coming for a long time,' 49 and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards; 50 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know, 51 and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


I don't expect any of you guys to put any stock in any of this, but if you do happen to be in Judea on the day the Abomination of Desolation, as spoken of by Daniel the Prophet, is revealed remember, at least, this.

Flee to the mountains. You will be safe there.

I pray for your safety, and for the peace of Jerusalem.

God Bless! :-D

[cap'n queasy]

Quote: But really, what good can you say about Israel, even for a Jewish standpoint, when it was established by atheistic Communists, is funded by idolatrous Christians, wages war against monotheistic Muslims, and over the course of half a century, and has yet to lead to the coming of the Messiah?

Don't you know that God turns all our bad into good?

There has not been a human endeavor yet that the same type of things could not be said about it.

Yet there is plenty of good in the world.

The Almighty uses the weak things of the world to show His greatness.

[Nathyn]

cap'n queasy wrote: Quote: But really, what good can you say about Israel, even for a Jewish standpoint, when it was established by atheistic Communists, is funded by idolatrous Christians, wages war against monotheistic Muslims, and over the course of half a century, and has yet to lead to the coming of the Messiah?

Don't you know that God turns all our bad into good?

There has not been a human endeavor yet that the same type of things could not be said about it.

Yet there is plenty of good in the world.

The Almighty uses the weak things of the world to show His greatness.
There isn't necessarily just as much good as evil. If a person murders another person, yeah, the family gets inheritance and the man's body fertilizes the ground, but that's hardly equal to his life.

[cap'n queasy]

Nathyn wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Quote: But really, what good can you say about Israel, even for a Jewish standpoint, when it was established by atheistic Communists, is funded by idolatrous Christians, wages war against monotheistic Muslims, and over the course of half a century, and has yet to lead to the coming of the Messiah?

Don't you know that God turns all our bad into good?

There has not been a human endeavor yet that the same type of things could not be said about it.

Yet there is plenty of good in the world.

The Almighty uses the weak things of the world to show His greatness.
There isn't necessarily just as much good as evil. If a person murders another person, yeah, the family gets inheritance and the man's body fertilizes the ground, but that's hardly equal to his life.

There is only a tiny bit of good in this world.

Yet it still outweighs all of the evil.

[Nathyn]

Oh, and I forgot to mention...

cap'n queasy wrote: Mailech wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote: I am glad to see a Jew addressing the original question. The idea of a messiah who accepts someone who does not accept him is foreign to me, but interesting. I would also like to join the others in rideculing the Christians who attempted to refocus the thread on Jesus.

Well they will accept the Messiah just not in the sense of Christianity. They will not think that he is G-d of that he died for their sins. They will think he is a righteous person who is the king of Israel.

*sigh*
Undoubtably many probably will. But this is not what the B'rit Hadashah tells us.

What it tells us is that a seemingly righteous man will rise and rule the entire world and bring a false peace to Israel for three and a half years. But then he will reveal himself as the son of perdition, bring the abomination of desolation, wreak destruction on the entire world causing the entire world to turn against Israel, and then at the moment of Israel's total destruction they will cry out for Moshiach to save them.

When Moshiach comes there will be no mistake because that will be the end of the world we know now, and the beginning of Moshiach's Millenial Kingdom.

In the words of Y'shua:
Quote: Matthew 23:34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, 35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 "Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38 "Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! 39 "For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, `BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!' "

Matthew 24:1 Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. 2 And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down."

3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

4 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you. 5 "For many will come in My name, saying, `I am the Christ,' and will mislead many. 6 "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. 8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10 "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. 11 "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. 12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. 13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. 14 "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

15 "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17 "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. 18 "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21 "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. 22 "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 "Then if anyone says to you, `Behold, here is the Christ,' or `There He is,' do not believe him. 24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. 25 "Behold, I have told you in advance. 26 "So if they say to you, `Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, or, `Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them. 27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 "Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

29 "But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31 "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

32 "Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33 so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. 38 "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41 "Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.

42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43 "But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. 44 "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

45 "Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 "Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes. 47 "Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 "But if that evil slave says in his heart, `My master is not coming for a long time,' 49 and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards; 50 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know, 51 and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


I don't expect any of you guys to put any stock in any of this, but if you do happen to be in Judea on the day the Abomination of Desolation, as spoken of by Daniel the Prophet, is revealed remember, at least, this.

Flee to the mountains. You will be safe there.

I pray for your safety, and for the peace of Jerusalem.

God Bless! :-D
Lol, run to the mountains!!!

I pray that Mailech ceases to be bothered by Christians trying to convert him.

[Duchifas]

Nathyn wrote: I pray

See, a few weeks of chatting with us, and you already engaging in productive activity. That's what I call progress. :tu: :lol: