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Nathyn



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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: I got a job offer. But I think it's a scam?  

OK, so for our VoIP, we had a guy come over to fix it. He's a contractor. While he was in my room, he saw my computer junk laying around and asked me, "You're a computer guy?" I said, "Yeah," and he said, "Me too."

Then he said he runs his own IT company and needs somebody that can do HTML. I told him I can do it, of course I can (and I can). I know HTML very well and can write it by hand. I know HTML pretty much inside out.

Anyway, the job offer is this: He needs somebody to make thousands of very basic websites with random content and said he'd pay me $65 per website I create for him. It doesn't have to be pretty and can be very basic.

That's a lot of money and sounds too good to be true, which is why I thought it sounded strange. When I asked him what it was for, he said he couldn't tell me. I get the feeling that the guy is an illegal spammer.

When I tried to pry more into the details, he said that they were selling the websites to somebody... Then later, he said that they were using for "internet relay," mentioning that they have some system set-up where they set up domain names and use the websites, and get revenue from people accessing them (which sounded like spam to me). The only real reason he'd have to keep that a secret is either he's embarased about being a spammer or because the spam he's doing is against the law (some spam is illegal, some isn't).

Does this sound like a scam to anybody? It seemed kind of shady to me, but the only question I really need to ask is, "Where's my paycheck?"

I told him I'd need a day to think about it. I'm going to ask him for a formal contract, preferably a written contract. If not a written contract, I'm at least going to invite one of my neighbors over and have them be a third-party witness to our verbal agreement. Most importantly of all, I don't want to do this work and then not get paid... If that happens, well, I can report him to the VoIP company that contracts him for soliciting services while doing jobs for them, which is most likely a no-no.

I hope it turns out well, because I could use this money for college tuition and, like he said, $65 per website for just making websites is a hell of a lot more than making $10\hour doing data entry (something I've been considering doing, recently, for college funds).
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject:  

He needs someone to do HTML? How hard is it to do HTML yourself? Seems interesting...
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Tono



Joined: 23 Jan 2005
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Location: Mounted

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject:  

Sounds like you're being set up for bro rape.
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eXploiTeD



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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject:  

Get money for 10 websites at a time, and get it in advance.
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Richard Owl Mirror



Joined: 28 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: I got a job offer. But I think it's a scam?  

Nathyn wrote: OK, so for our VoIP, we had a guy come over to fix it. He's a contractor. While he was in my room, he saw my computer junk laying around and asked me, "You're a computer guy?" I said, "Yeah," and he said, "Me too."

Then he said he runs his own IT company and needs somebody that can do HTML. I told him I can do it, of course I can (and I can). I know HTML very well and can write it by hand. I know HTML pretty much inside out.

Anyway, the job offer is this: He needs somebody to make thousands of very basic websites with random content and said he'd pay me $65 per website I create for him. It doesn't have to be pretty and can be very basic.

That's a lot of money and sounds too good to be true, which is why I thought it sounded strange. When I asked him what it was for, he said he couldn't tell me. I get the feeling that the guy is an illegal spammer.

When I tried to pry more into the details, he said that they were selling the websites to somebody... Then later, he said that they were using for "internet relay," mentioning that they have some system set-up where they set up domain names and use the websites, and get revenue from people accessing them (which sounded like spam to me). The only real reason he'd have to keep that a secret is either he's embarased about being a spammer or because the spam he's doing is against the law (some spam is illegal, some isn't).

Does this sound like a scam to anybody? It seemed kind of shady to me, but the only question I really need to ask is, "Where's my paycheck?"

I told him I'd need a day to think about it. I'm going to ask him for a formal contract, preferably a written contract. If not a written contract, I'm at least going to invite one of my neighbors over and have them be a third-party witness to our verbal agreement. Most importantly of all, I don't want to do this work and then not get paid... If that happens, well, I can report him to the VoIP company that contracts him for soliciting services while doing jobs for them, which is most likely a no-no.

I hope it turns out well, because I could use this money for college tuition and, like he said, $65 per website for just making websites is a hell of a lot more than making $10\hour doing data entry (something I've been considering doing, recently, for college funds).

I wouldn't say it's a scam in regards to you as long as he pays you the money promised.
It may be fake websites for a nefarious purpose but, if you get paid, what does it matter ?

By the way, if you "write it by hand", is that with a number two pencil & how do you get it inside the computer after you write it long hand ? :lol:
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spearsy23



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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject:  

make sure he puts in the contract that in event you don't get paid, you get to have sex with his wife/girlfriend/daughter whenever you want for the next ten years
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TheGirlNextDoor



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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject:  

Get your agreement in writing, period. Don't rely on a third party as a witness to any verbal agreement. That's only hearsay and wouldn't hold water if you needed it.

Not sure if it's legit or not.. I'd be very leery of it.. simply because of the 'if it sounds too good to be true.. it probably is'. Unfortunately, that has proven true for me in a lot of different ways.

Good luck with it.
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David



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject:  

Sounds like either spam or porno to me.
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject:  

David wrote: Sounds like either spam or porno to me.

Porno? :lol:
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Kane



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject:  

Your going to be making several porno pages linking to several other porno pages...and cookies will be eaten.
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject:  

If Nathyn was making porno webpages, now that's a whole different story.
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FCTE



Joined: 11 Mar 2004
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Location: Illinois

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject:  

David wrote: porno

Nice.
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Nathyn



Joined: 25 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject:  

I'm going to agree to do the job, provided that I get a signed, written contract.

And by the way, I didn't want to say this because it might come off as racist, but the guy's Middle-Eastern, for those of you who want to speculate that he's a terrorist. :lol:
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bob.appleyard



Joined: 15 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject:  

TheGirlNextDoor wrote: 'if it sounds too good to be true.. it probably is'. Unfortunately, that has proven true for me in a lot of different ways.

The offer's still on the table, by the way.
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Ragnar Danneskjold



Joined: 11 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject:  

spearsy23 wrote: make sure he puts in the contract that in event you don't get paid, you get to have sex with his wife/girlfriend/daughter whenever you want for the next ten years

Very good suggestion.
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Nathyn



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject:  

I called him today and his cell phone was seriously screwed up, said he was out-of-town. I got his email address. He wants my contact info and he's getting back to me Monday.
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TheGirlNextDoor



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject:  

bob.appleyard wrote: TheGirlNextDoor wrote: 'if it sounds too good to be true.. it probably is'. Unfortunately, that has proven true for me in a lot of different ways.

The offer's still on the table, by the way.

O Rly?
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject:  

Nathyn wrote: I'm going to agree to do the job, provided that I get a signed, written contract.

And by the way, I didn't want to say this because it might come off as racist, but the guy's Middle-Eastern, for those of you who want to speculate that he's a terrorist. :lol:

wtf?

don't take teh job!
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Kane



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject:  

Ek0nomik wrote: Nathyn wrote: I'm going to agree to do the job, provided that I get a signed, written contract.

And by the way, I didn't want to say this because it might come off as racist, but the guy's Middle-Eastern, for those of you who want to speculate that he's a terrorist. :lol:

wtf?

don't take teh job!

Nathyn's going to be held ransom... :shifty:
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject:  

Nathyn is done for. Next thing you know he's going to be flying a plane into a building. The hugh-manity!
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