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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: Is Our President Learn? |
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http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-11-20T142248Z_01_N20264504_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAN-USA-REPORT.xml
White House brushes off CIA report on Iran: report
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House dismissed a classified CIA draft assessment that found no conclusive evidence of a secret Iranian nuclear weapons program, the New Yorker reported.
The article by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said the CIA's analysis was based on technical intelligence collected by overhead satellites and on other evidence like measurements of the radioactivity of water samples.
"The CIA found no conclusive evidence, as yet, of a secret Iranian nuclear weapons program running parallel to the civilian operations that Iran has declared to the International Atomic Energy Agency," according to the article.
"A current senior intelligence official confirmed the existence of the CIA analysis, and told me that the White House had been hostile to it," it said.
The United States has accused Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian energy program.
The article, in the current issue of the magazine, discussed how Vice President Dick Cheney believed the Bush administration would deal with Iran if the Republicans lost control of Congress as they did in the November 7 election.
"If the Democrats won on November 7th, the vice president said, that victory would not stop the administration from pursuing a military option with Iran," Hersh wrote, citing an unidentified source familiar with the discussion.
Reminds me of similar CIA reports on Iraq. So, Is Our President Learn?
:think: I think America would be a much safer place if Congress gives W teh' axe. :-D |
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CountryGuy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think any study should be ignored just because it doesn't fit in with a particular viewpoint. For this, I'm annoyed at the White House.
However, one study does not equate to the truth -- There have been other reports that point to the contrary. So, spinning this to mean there is no program is just as illogical. |
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soldierofsoul
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| Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive. |
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CountryGuy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this? |
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soldierofsoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
Yes they have, they say that it is only for energy...hmmm...well I don't think so. |
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ontheyslay
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soldierofsoul wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
Yes they have, they say that it is only for energy...hmmm...well I don't think so.
Didn't you say they admitted to having nuclear weapons? Since when is nuclear power nuclear weapons? |
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Kumar
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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soldierofsoul wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
Yes they have, they say that it is only for energy...hmmm...well I don't think so.
Nuclear weapons are used for energy? |
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Fido
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Kumar wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
Yes they have, they say that it is only for energy...hmmm...well I don't think so.
Nuclear weapons are used for energy?
Close.... They're used for power. We do not want Iran having much of that now! |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
http://bongonews.com/layout1.php?event=1187&topic=
Now didn't Saddam admit to having them too? |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Kumar wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
Yes they have, they say that it is only for energy...hmmm...well I don't think so.
Nuclear weapons are used for energy?
They're used for "thermal" energy. :lol: |
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homerjay_s
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
They haven't. Iran has continually denied that they have any working nuclear weapons program and have consistently stated that their nuclear program is for energy only.
The CIA report states that there is no evidence to support claims by the whitehouse that the Iranians are working on nuclear weapons.
If they say they aren't developing nuclear weapons, and there is no evidence of them developing weapons, then they are probably not developing nuclear weapons. It's something we should keep our eye on, but that's it for now. |
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soldierofsoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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homerjay_s wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
They haven't. Iran has continually denied that they have any working nuclear weapons program and have consistently stated that their nuclear program is for energy only.
The CIA report states that there is no evidence to support claims by the whitehouse that the Iranians are working on nuclear weapons.
If they say they aren't developing nuclear weapons, and there is no evidence of them developing weapons, then they are probably not developing nuclear weapons. It's something we should keep our eye on, but that's it for now.
Well is it because a photo in the sky said that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons, don't trust the goverenment, we don't even have nuclear energy, do you think Iran does...? |
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callous
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Bush make great for slow burn us intelligence reputation. |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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soldierofsoul wrote: homerjay_s wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
They haven't. Iran has continually denied that they have any working nuclear weapons program and have consistently stated that their nuclear program is for energy only.
The CIA report states that there is no evidence to support claims by the whitehouse that the Iranians are working on nuclear weapons.
If they say they aren't developing nuclear weapons, and there is no evidence of them developing weapons, then they are probably not developing nuclear weapons. It's something we should keep our eye on, but that's it for now.
Well is it because a photo in the sky said that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons, don't trust the goverenment, we don't even have nuclear energy, do you think Iran does...?
That's an interesting statement. Could you expound a bit? |
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bob.appleyard
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Where's Team B when you need them? |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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bob.appleyard wrote: Where's Team B when you need them?
oh, I wruv teh' sigi :-D |
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Dookiestix
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callous wrote: Bush make great for slow burn us intelligence reputation.
Did Borat say that? |
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soldierofsoul
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sLiPpY wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: homerjay_s wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
They haven't. Iran has continually denied that they have any working nuclear weapons program and have consistently stated that their nuclear program is for energy only.
The CIA report states that there is no evidence to support claims by the whitehouse that the Iranians are working on nuclear weapons.
If they say they aren't developing nuclear weapons, and there is no evidence of them developing weapons, then they are probably not developing nuclear weapons. It's something we should keep our eye on, but that's it for now.
Well is it because a photo in the sky said that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons, don't trust the goverenment, we don't even have nuclear energy, do you think Iran does...?
That's an interesting statement. Could you expound a bit?
www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/nuke.htm |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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soldierofsoul wrote: sLiPpY wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: homerjay_s wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
They haven't. Iran has continually denied that they have any working nuclear weapons program and have consistently stated that their nuclear program is for energy only.
The CIA report states that there is no evidence to support claims by the whitehouse that the Iranians are working on nuclear weapons.
If they say they aren't developing nuclear weapons, and there is no evidence of them developing weapons, then they are probably not developing nuclear weapons. It's something we should keep our eye on, but that's it for now.
Well is it because a photo in the sky said that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons, don't trust the goverenment, we don't even have nuclear energy, do you think Iran does...?
That's an interesting statement. Could you expound a bit?
www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/nuke.htm
That's an interesting link, and I was aware of the background material...hell our own government provided domestic corporations with the auspices for developing Nuclear power for the Shah. :lol:
Well between Washington and the French.
The other material inbetween I was a little fuzzy on, and as to their current estimate. I do believe it's correct. |
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ontheyslay
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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soldierofsoul wrote: homerjay_s wrote: CountryGuy wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well sense Iran has admitted to having nuclear weapons I find this argument inconclusive.
When have they stated this?
They haven't. Iran has continually denied that they have any working nuclear weapons program and have consistently stated that their nuclear program is for energy only.
The CIA report states that there is no evidence to support claims by the whitehouse that the Iranians are working on nuclear weapons.
If they say they aren't developing nuclear weapons, and there is no evidence of them developing weapons, then they are probably not developing nuclear weapons. It's something we should keep our eye on, but that's it for now.
Well is it because a photo in the sky said that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons, don't trust the goverenment, we don't even have nuclear energy, do you think Iran does...?
Well now the government is saying two different things, Iran is making nukes, and the one that just came out, Iran isn't making Nukes. In these circumstances the saying "Don't trust your government" doesn't really apply. |
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