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soldierofsoul



Joined: 19 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject:  

The Comrade wrote: soldierofsoul wrote:

No it does not disprove God, maybe in your opinion, but in mine, God loves the world, God did not contradict himself, he made a great creation(man), but we are not without fault(that is why we have Jesus). You can argue and argue to the point of no return, but God is truth, and the only truth in the world.


god made genetics, according to your own admission.

homosexuality is all genetic, according to science

therefor, god made homosexuality, did he not?


No dude, and I'm sick of answering the same question over and over again, figure it out on your own.
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The Russian



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject:  

The Comrade wrote: soldierofsoul wrote:

No it does not disprove God, maybe in your opinion, but in mine, God loves the world, God did not contradict himself, he made a great creation(man), but we are not without fault(that is why we have Jesus). You can argue and argue to the point of no return, but God is truth, and the only truth in the world.


god made genetics, according to your own admission.

homosexuality is all genetic, according to science

therefor, god made homosexuality, did he not?

you're dipping in the nature vs. nurture pot... I'd be careful presuming its all nature...

things like sexual abuse, childhood trauma, and associative parental disorders have been linked to homosexual behavior too... I dont mean to portray it in a negative light, a lot of these people were abused and its not their fault.

it is easier to presume that it happens both geneticaly, and as a reaction of the psychie.

in light of everything, I think the claims of some to have transitioned from homosexuality to heterosexuality are believable... I've read some things on it, and while I'm sceptiral of anything that even remotely tastes of religion, there are secular individuals who have described the transition as well.

It can only be as easily deduced that the transition swings both ways.

I do believe genetic pre-desposition plays a role as well, but how does one measure how many are pre-desposed vs. psycho-reactionary...
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The Comrade



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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject:  

soldierofsoul wrote:


No dude, and I'm sick of answering the same question over and over again, figure it out on your own.


i have figured it out. i'm asking for your to explain yourself.


you have admitted that god created genetics.

homosexuality comes from genetics.

does that not mean that god create homosexuality?
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Saracen



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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject:  

soldierofsoul wrote: Saracen wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Saracen wrote: soldierofsoul wrote: Well, it is my religous convictions, I know they are aithies(or agnostics), but should I abbandon what I believe because of what they think. No.
Now this argument may lead to nowhere, I am prepared for that.

No, you don't have to abandon what you believe in, but you don't have to force them into believing what you believe in either.

Not forcing, my Muslim friend, but giving them something to think about.

Allow me to give you something to think about.

I have read a few islamic books, including parts of the Koran I appreciate it but I know what you believe, and I know what I believe.

I'm sorry, but that's ignorance... But let's leave that for another topic, because we're talking about gay marriage in Israel.
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