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The Comrade wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote:
Sounds like a good way to get an iceage.

Actually a large cloud of green house gases reversed a perminant ice age on earth. the "snow ball earth" if you will.

I saw that on the science-channel :)

MplsBison · Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 3237

The Comrade wrote:

without nasa almost all space exploration would hault.

without nasa a way to other planets will take years longer

without nasa you might not be able to build something in time to push an asteroid off course.

All of these things could be accomplished by the market much quicker and much more efficiently.

anselfir · Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 22910 Location: ZzZzZzZz

what is nasa. it is a bunch of people with money who want to do space exploration and stuff. They get money from coercive means.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

tman_ndsu08 wrote:

All of these things could be accomplished by the market much quicker and much more efficiently.

oh jesus christ.

the only thing on the planet capable of funding an in-depth space program(sending a rocket up is not in-depth) is a governments coffers. no private corporation will ever be able to fund a nasa like space program.

MplsBison · Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 3237

The Comrade wrote:

the only thing on the planet capable of funding an in-depth space program(sending a rocket up is not in-depth) is a governments coffers. no private corporation will ever be able to fund a nasa like space program.

No private corporation will ever be able to waste that much money and accomplish so little and stay in business. That is correct.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

tman_ndsu08 wrote:
No private corporation will ever be able to waste that much money and accomplish so little and stay in business. That is correct.

okay.

well in twenty years when the asteroid comes around(guess who found out about it?) and there's a way to stop it thanks to nasa you'll change your tune.

MplsBison · Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 3237

The Comrade wrote:

well in twenty years when the asteroid comes around(guess who found out about it?) and there's a way to stop it thanks to nasa you'll change your tune.

Well, certainly it won't be NASA who first spots it.

And as far as a way for stopping the thing, they're just as helpless as you and I.

Spending a billion dollars to do hydroponics research on a trillion dollar space station is not going to help stop astroids from crashing into the Earth.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

tman_ndsu08 wrote:

Well, certainly it won't be NASA who first spots it.

funny thing is that nasa did spot it.

tman_ndsu08 wrote: And as far as a way for stopping the thing, they're just as helpless as you and I.

is that why they're working on ideas to stop it from hitting us?

tman_ndsu08 wrote: Spending a billion dollars to do hydroponics research on a trillion dollar space station is not going to help stop astroids from crashing into the Earth.

they do more then hydroponics in it. and the satelitties they currently have up do so many things i wouldn't be able to list them all.

try actually LEARNING about nasa before you start posting rhetoric about wastes of money.

Green · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:31 am Post subject:

Our atmosphere has already been f****d with enough, why do we need to f**k it up more. I don't feel like a global famine and freezing my ass off.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

Green wrote: Our atmosphere has already been f****d with enough, why do we need to f**k it up more. I don't feel like a global famine and freezing my ass off.

it's a god damn theory. jesus christ.

how dense are you people?

nasa comes out with a theory and you all start freaking out about the apoclypse.

MplsBison · Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 3237

[quote="The Comrade]try actually LEARNING about nasa before you start posting rhetoric about wastes of money.[/quote]

None of anything you posted confirms that they can do a better job than the private sector could.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

tman_ndsu08 wrote:

None of anything you posted confirms that they can do a better job than the private sector could.

no private company has the money to do the missions nasa does.

you apparently don't understand this.

anselfir · Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 22910 Location: ZzZzZzZz

no private company can make money the way nasa does.

Wizard From Oz · Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 10375 Location: Kansas

NASA doesnt spend money on Asteroid spotting, cause it doesn't need to. Anyone with a small scope and CCD device can do it from their back yard. And many do

And a thought for Comrade:

My favorite line from the awful movie Armargedon

Bruce Willis: What do mean you dont have a plan. You're NASA for Christ sake. That's what NASA does, think this sh*t up

If people did a little research into NASA - they would find they explore every nut case odd ball idea in the book. Then decide the vast majority of the ideas are nut case and odd ball - The ones left over put men on the Moon - give us non stick fry pans and Tang and velcro

sunwook · Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 456

The Comrade wrote: tman_ndsu08 wrote:
Assuming the future of man rests in space,

NASA is not necessary to reach that end.

If anything, it's a slower, more expensive way.

without nasa almost all space exploration would hault.

without nasa a way to other planets will take years longer

without nasa you might not be able to build something in time to push an asteroid off course.

nasa is essential to earths security, especially now with all the dangers facing earth from space.

As opposed to... the dangers we faced in 1800? 1500? 200 B.C.? What makes the potential dangers from space that we face TODAY so much greater than any other time in the history of Earth?

Also, you cannot simply assume that the future of man resides in space. There's no evidence that it will be feasible in the future, and there is no evidence as of yet that mankind is absolutely doomed on this Earth. Yes, we have problems, but they still have potential to be reversed/diminished.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

sunwook wrote:

As opposed to... the dangers we faced in 1800? 1500? 200 B.C.? What makes the potential dangers from space that we face TODAY so much greater than any other time in the history of Earth?

when did i say that?

no where.

the fact that we have something like NASA in the modern world makes it so we can actually find out about these dangers and potentially do something about it.
sunwook wrote:
Also, you cannot simply assume that the future of man resides in space.
There's no evidence that it will be feasible in the future, and there is no evidence as of yet that mankind is absolutely doomed on this Earth. Yes, we have problems, but they still have potential to be reversed/diminished.

we're currently using all of the earths natural resources up at an alarming rate, and for some reason we can't find an alchemist to put them back.

and space colonization is in fact feasible. you should try doing some research into the subject before you post again.

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 7781

There's no profit in exploring space.

That's why the private sector could never do it.

The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 12039 Location: Zagreb

LostSoul3412 wrote: There's no profit in exploring space.

That's why the private sector could never do it.

unless there was something worth exploiting, such as natural resources or rare and exotic materials.

but the start of space exploration will be colonization, and that is something for NASA.