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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Kramer?!?!  

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2667529&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
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Chymical



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject:  

Well he can kiss goodbye to his career. Very offensive, not at all racist, but offensive.
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DSwain



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject:  

Giddy-up......
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JoeBen81



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject:  

DSwain wrote: Giddy-up......
:rotf:
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JoeBen81



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject:  

WOW, After actully seeing the video it kinda makes me sick. WTF was this dumb-ass thinking. I've lost all respect for this douche bag. I don't doubt the heckler was being a dick, but talk about taking it to the next level. He better hope this doesn't become too big of a story, otherwise I would expect his life to be in danger.
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Tono



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject:  

Statement blaming it on a booze addiction in 3... 2....
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JoeBen81



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject:  

Tono wrote: Statement blaming it on a booze addiction in 3... 2....

For once I'd like to see one of these people say

"So what, I'm a racist!"
rather than....
"Nothing more than ramblings of a old drunkard"
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John Galt



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject:  

I don't think it was really that bad, although I could be wrong. The people in the audience start crying since "the n word" is one of those words only certain people can use. They start saying it was "uncalled for" yeah well, comics make fun of people. Why is it that people get all upset about him using this word? He was on stage, people were heckling and he heckled back. That's what stand up comics do....

If Chris Rock started calling people Cracker then everyone would laugh. "Look at that Cracker ass. Cracker cracker cracker. Cracker-- we've got a cracker here." I'm fairly sure I've heard him actually say this. Ha ha, it's funny... at least people are laughing. But here with Richards the audience starts crying. They need to grow up.
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JoeBen81



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject:  

John Galt wrote: I don't think it was really that bad, although I could be wrong. The people in the audience start crying since "the n word" is one of those words only certain people can use. They start saying it was "uncalled for" yeah well, comics make fun of people. Why is it that people get all upset about him using this word? He was on stage, people were heckling and he heckled back. That's what stand up comics do....

If Chris Rock started calling people Cracker then everyone would laugh. "Look at that Cracker ass. Cracker cracker cracker. Cracker-- we've got a cracker here." I'm fairly sure I've heard him actually say this. Ha ha, it's funny... at least people are laughing. But here with Richards the audience starts crying. They need to grow up.
Have you actually seen the video?? I think it's worse than it sounds in text. He wasn't try to funny, he was pissed.
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John Galt



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject:  

JoeBen81 wrote: John Galt wrote: I don't think it was really that bad, although I could be wrong. The people in the audience start crying since "the n word" is one of those words only certain people can use. They start saying it was "uncalled for" yeah well, comics make fun of people. Why is it that people get all upset about him using this word? He was on stage, people were heckling and he heckled back. That's what stand up comics do....

If Chris Rock started calling people Cracker then everyone would laugh. "Look at that Cracker ass. Cracker cracker cracker. Cracker-- we've got a cracker here." I'm fairly sure I've heard him actually say this. Ha ha, it's funny... at least people are laughing. But here with Richards the audience starts crying. They need to grow up.
Have you actually seen the video?? I think it's worse than it sounds in text. He wasn't try to funny, he was pissed.

Yes I watched the video. I don't know, people loose it like that all the time and people laugh about it. Considering his character was always a spastic nutcase I don't think it is that large of a leap for him to scream in that way. It doesn't matter how he said it, the people started crying once they heard the word that he is not allowed to say.
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JoeBen81



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject:  

Well coming from a guy who's not easily offended, and is aware of the name calling double standard... I still was offended by it. No artistic merit IMO.
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Melchior



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject:  

JoeBen81 wrote: WOW, After actully seeing the video it kinda makes me sick. WTF was this dumb-ass thinking. I've lost all respect for this douche bag. I don't doubt the heckler was being a dick, but talk about taking it to the next level. He better hope this doesn't become too big of a story, otherwise I would expect his life to be in danger.

Where did you see the video?
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JoeBen81



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject:  

Melchior wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: WOW, After actully seeing the video it kinda makes me sick. WTF was this dumb-ass thinking. I've lost all respect for this douche bag. I don't doubt the heckler was being a dick, but talk about taking it to the next level. He better hope this doesn't become too big of a story, otherwise I would expect his life to be in danger.

Where did you see the video?
www.tmz.com
Prepare to be shocked.
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject:  

Firefox isn't handling this video very well...
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John Galt



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject:  

No, it keeps on bringing up a pop up, which it in turn blocks. IE allows it to work fine, sad as it is.
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TheGirlNextDoor



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject:  

It's a crappy video - the quality is very poor. Was it from a camera phone I wonder?

Regardless... I never did like that guy. Now I like him even less.
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject:  

TheGirlNextDoor wrote: It's a crappy video - the quality is very poor. Was it from a camera phone I wonder?

Regardless... I never did like that guy. Now I like him even less.

You never liked Seinfeld?

Understandable I suppose... more of a lefty show. :-D
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TheGirlNextDoor



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject:  

Ek0nomik wrote: TheGirlNextDoor wrote: It's a crappy video - the quality is very poor. Was it from a camera phone I wonder?

Regardless... I never did like that guy. Now I like him even less.

You never liked Seinfeld?

Understandable I suppose... more of a lefty show. :-D

I never liked the guy who played Kramer.

:?
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John Galt



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject:  

JoeBen81 wrote: Well coming from a guy who's not easily offended, and is aware of the name calling double standard... I still was offended by it. No artistic merit IMO.

Why does it offend you? He wasn't calling you any names. He was calling some hecklers names. Why does it offend you when you acknowledge that others doing the same to different people does not?

I don't believe I have ever uttered the words "I am offended".
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Ek0nomik



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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject:  

I just watched the video.

That wasn't bad at all. I agree completely with John Galt. The two people who interrupted him were rude to begin with, and than they whine that it was uncalled for. Yet, simultaneously, they are calling Richards a cracker. I love double standards.
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