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programmusic



Joined: 22 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject:  

remember when people tried to argue that they weren't using human shields?
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slitedeviance



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject:  

Hang on, quick couple of points maybe Skip can clear up for me...

1) The target was warned of the airstrike and told to get his family out? Would he not also, sort of, scarper himself?
2) In situations such as these, if there was damage to neighbouring buildings or property would Israel pay reperations to any affected party?

It also seems that non-violent resistance has been more effective by far than armed resistance to Israel. How would everyone feel about this as a new way of combating the IDF as opposed to throwing stones / using AK's?
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mendosan



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject:  

slitedeviance wrote: Hang on, quick couple of points maybe Skip can clear up for me...

1) The target was warned of the airstrike and told to get his family out? Would he not also, sort of, scarper himself?
2) In situations such as these, if there was damage to neighbouring buildings or property would Israel pay reperations to any affected party?

It also seems that non-violent resistance has been more effective by far than armed resistance to Israel. How would everyone feel about this as a new way of combating the IDF as opposed to throwing stones / using AK's?

The IDF will just not bother warning them, its not non violent protest if you provide Human Shields for men that are firing rockets at Israel, or belong to a militia that is firing rockets at Israel.

Your really misrepresenting the situation if you call it non violent protest, however if you want to call it selective non violent protest, ill shut up.
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mendosan



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject:  

programmusic wrote: remember when people tried to argue that they weren't using human shields?

Thats quite a good point, what about the evil Zionist invaders who never warn civillians when there gonna drop high explosives.
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slitedeviance



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject:  

mendosan wrote: slitedeviance wrote: It also seems that non-violent resistance has been more effective by far than armed resistance to Israel. How would everyone feel about this as a new way of combating the IDF as opposed to throwing stones / using AK's?

The IDF will just not bother warning them, its not non violent protest if you provide Human Shields for men that are firing rockets at Israel, or belong to a militia that is firing rockets at Israel.

Your really misrepresenting the situation if you call it non violent protest, however if you want to call it selective non violent protest, ill shut up.

Okay, for the sake of the point I'll conceded selective non-violent protest, however, where this to turn into full non-violent protest I still maintain this would be more effective than armed militias.
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slitedeviance



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:09 am    Post subject:  

programmusic wrote: remember when people tried to argue that they weren't using human shields?

Got a link to a discussion where this was stated? There have often been human shields in Palestine, some of them going over voluntarily from western nations to try and protect palestinians.

Difference now is that it is the resident population who are willingly putting themselves into the firing line.
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emerald



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject:  

Quote: The IDF will just not bother warning them, its not non violent protest if you provide Human Shields for men that are firing rockets at Israel, or belong to a militia that is firing rockets at Israel.

how many israeli's have actually been killed by these continuous rocket attacks by militant groups in palestine??
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superskippy



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject:  

Not an enormous amount around 15 or so with around 1,050 wounded.
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