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Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

I registered...

and all I got to show for it was...

:think:

eynon · Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject:

Kane wrote: I registered...

and all I got to show for it was...

:think: :lol: :lol:

what........you didn't get the t-shirt?

eynon · Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject:

mr.snruB wrote: I know. But if my country does have a draft it's going to be hard to dodge it. You americans only have to cross the border. If we had a draft, I'd have to cross the ocean and make my way over to switzerland or something

why would you dodge your countries' draft......if Canada starts conscription, it would have a very good reason........

Clarino · Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 3672 Location: Oop North

The Russian wrote:
If the middle east starts a conflict with the US or Israel, count me in... if WE start the conflict, I'm blowing this hot-dog stand.

What if Israel starts a war? I mean, lets face it, that's the most likely scenario.

Thrilla · Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 22323 Location: Sin City

Clarino wrote: The Russian wrote:
If the middle east starts a conflict with the US or Israel, count me in... if WE start the conflict, I'm blowing this hot-dog stand.

What if Israel starts a war? I mean, lets face it, that's the most likely scenario. why is that the most likely scenario?

Clarino · Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 3672 Location: Oop North

Because Israel is confontational and holds a deep seated loathing for all their neighbours. They also have the bomb and the worlds most powerful army at their disposal. They've been spoiling for a big scrap for years.

GodTom · Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 1608 Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Yep just registered a couple weeks a go. If my country calls on me I would serve, a lot of other men had the calling and went. I would put them to shame if I didn't.

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2668

Thrilla wrote: yes.. I registered... a couple of weeks before i enlisted

i enlisted before i had to register :snoot:

Thrilla · Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 22323 Location: Sin City

The Newb wrote: Thrilla wrote: yes.. I registered... a couple of weeks before i enlisted

i enlisted before i had to register :snoot: newb :lol:

Anarko-Kapitalizt · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 2517

soldierofsoul wrote: whoever said no should be arrested, in my opinion.

:lol:

Nine_Enigmas · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 2312

soldierofsoul wrote: whoever said no should be arrested, in my opinion.

I submitted it with a letter, explaining how I will gladly fight any man or woman that comes to me or my neighbors doorstep, but I wasn't going to submit to any form of conscription - because I can not (nor would I, even if I could) force myself to trust their judgement of who is and is not my enemy.

I'm not a conscientious objector to violence - I'm an objector to violence committed upon strangers for the soul purpose of nationalistic fervor. I disdain violence, as it is a singular indicator of weakness of mind.

Regardless, if they want to arrest me, they know where to find me. I pay taxes, I have owned businesses (restaurants), I attended university (Though not on federal - or any other - loans).

So long as we're on the subject of opinions, it is mine that most every modern concept of warfare does not encourage an individual to decide for himself who his enemies are and how he shall prosecute those enemies, but simply to accept orders with the adulation of a plebe towards his noble.

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

Yes, a while ago.

The Russian · Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 384 Location: Buffalo, NY

Clarino wrote: The Russian wrote:
If the middle east starts a conflict with the US or Israel, count me in... if WE start the conflict, I'm blowing this hot-dog stand.

What if Israel starts a war? I mean, lets face it, that's the most likely scenario.

are you nuts?... its been in several multi-national military conflicts... except ALL of them were started by arab countries...

how quickly we forget...

bla bla · Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject:

I registered decades ago.

A friend of mine posted this on another site. This is as good a place as
any to repost.

Quote:
Something cool that Xerox is doing.
If you go to this web site, you can pick out a thank you card and Xerox
will print it and it will be sent to a soldier that is currently serving in Iraq.
You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed
services. Feel free to send a card. It is FREE and it only takes a second.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the soldiers received a bunch of these? Our
guys and gals over there need to know we are behind them, no matter
what.

www.letssaythanks.com/

Nine_Enigmas · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 2312

The Russian wrote: Clarino wrote: The Russian wrote:
If the middle east starts a conflict with the US or Israel, count me in... if WE start the conflict, I'm blowing this hot-dog stand.

What if Israel starts a war? I mean, lets face it, that's the most likely scenario.

are you nuts?... its been in several multi-national military conflicts... except ALL of them were started by arab countries...

how quickly we forget...

A hee hee.

All is a bad descriptor. In the six-day war, the first act of war was carried out by Israel as a pre-emptive strike due to perceived hostilities. (The destruction of the Egyptian air force)

Its hard to call that a defensive war, unless we go by Bush's definition, in which case nobody ever fights a war of aggression.

The Russian · Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 384 Location: Buffalo, NY

Nine_Enigmas wrote: The Russian wrote: Clarino wrote: The Russian wrote:
If the middle east starts a conflict with the US or Israel, count me in... if WE start the conflict, I'm blowing this hot-dog stand.

What if Israel starts a war? I mean, lets face it, that's the most likely scenario.

are you nuts?... its been in several multi-national military conflicts... except ALL of them were started by arab countries...

how quickly we forget...

A hee hee.

All is a bad descriptor. In the six-day war, the first act of war was carried out by Israel as a pre-emptive strike due to perceived hostilities. (The destruction of the Egyptian air force)

Its hard to call that a defensive war, unless we go by Bush's definition, in which case nobody ever fights a war of aggression.

what?... in the six day war, Egypt faked doing practice maneuvers near the Israeli border, turned and crossed the border and killed people in the area... Israel was not aware of the attack till after it had happened. Only then were jets scrambled.

FCTE · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 19129

mr.snruB wrote: I know. But if my country does have a draft it's going to be hard to dodge it. You americans only have to cross the border. If we had a draft, I'd have to cross the ocean and make my way over to switzerland or something

Switzerland has mandatory military service. :lol:

Nine_Enigmas · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 2312

The Russian wrote: Nine_Enigmas wrote: The Russian wrote: Clarino wrote: The Russian wrote:
If the middle east starts a conflict with the US or Israel, count me in... if WE start the conflict, I'm blowing this hot-dog stand.

What if Israel starts a war? I mean, lets face it, that's the most likely scenario.

are you nuts?... its been in several multi-national military conflicts... except ALL of them were started by arab countries...

how quickly we forget...

A hee hee.

All is a bad descriptor. In the six-day war, the first act of war was carried out by Israel as a pre-emptive strike due to perceived hostilities. (The destruction of the Egyptian air force)

Its hard to call that a defensive war, unless we go by Bush's definition, in which case nobody ever fights a war of aggression.

what?... in the six day war, Egypt faked doing practice maneuvers near the Israeli border, turned and crossed the border and killed people in the area... Israel was not aware of the attack till after it had happened. Only then were jets scrambled.

Funny how history changes in the telling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570433/Six-Day_War.html

even

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/67_War.html

Quote: By this time, Israeli forces had been on alert for three weeks. The country could not remain fully mobilized indefinitely, nor could it allow its sea lane through the Gulf of Aqaba to be interdicted. Israel decided to preempt the expected Arab attack. To do this successfully, Israel needed the element of surprise. Had it waited for an Arab invasion, Israel would have been at a potentially catastrophic disadvantage.

Again, all is a bad descriptor. In this case you are in error. Even Israel admits that it was a pre-emptive attack to what they felt was an imminent war. But there's was the opening shot, all the same.

blockhead · Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 597 Location: SouthWest

FCTE wrote: mr.snruB wrote: I know. But if my country does have a draft it's going to be hard to dodge it. You americans only have to cross the border. If we had a draft, I'd have to cross the ocean and make my way over to switzerland or something

Switzerland has mandatory military service. :lol:

Yeah but it only consists of a 2 day training session on how to work that damn army knife of theirs.

The Russian · Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 384 Location: Buffalo, NY

Nine_Enigmas wrote: The Russian wrote: Nine_Enigmas wrote: The Russian wrote: Clarino wrote: The Russian wrote:
If the middle east starts a conflict with the US or Israel, count me in... if WE start the conflict, I'm blowing this hot-dog stand.

What if Israel starts a war? I mean, lets face it, that's the most likely scenario.

are you nuts?... its been in several multi-national military conflicts... except ALL of them were started by arab countries...

how quickly we forget...

A hee hee.

All is a bad descriptor. In the six-day war, the first act of war was carried out by Israel as a pre-emptive strike due to perceived hostilities. (The destruction of the Egyptian air force)

Its hard to call that a defensive war, unless we go by Bush's definition, in which case nobody ever fights a war of aggression.

what?... in the six day war, Egypt faked doing practice maneuvers near the Israeli border, turned and crossed the border and killed people in the area... Israel was not aware of the attack till after it had happened. Only then were jets scrambled.

Funny how history changes in the telling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570433/Six-Day_War.html

even

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/67_War.html

Quote: By this time, Israeli forces had been on alert for three weeks. The country could not remain fully mobilized indefinitely, nor could it allow its sea lane through the Gulf of Aqaba to be interdicted. Israel decided to preempt the expected Arab attack. To do this successfully, Israel needed the element of surprise. Had it waited for an Arab invasion, Israel would have been at a potentially catastrophic disadvantage.

Again, all is a bad descriptor. In this case you are in error. Even Israel admits that it was a pre-emptive attack to what they felt was an imminent war. But there's was the opening shot, all the same.

Oops, wrong war, this is the Third conflict... so, tell me, how would you interpret a naval blockade of your nations ships, the removal of peace keeping forces from the borders, the support of Fadayeen who were *already* staging raids into your country, and a build-up of military forces along the border...

Quote: The 1956 Suez War represented for Egypt a military defeat, but a political victory. Heavy diplomatic pressure from both the United States and the Soviet Union forced Israel to withdraw its military from the Sinai Peninsula. After the 1956 war, Egypt agreed to the stationing of a UN peacekeeping force in the Sinai, U.N.E.F. (United Nations Emergency Force), to keep that border region demilitarized, and prevent guerrillas from crossing the border into Israel. As a result the border between Egypt and Israel quieted for a while.

The air strike may have been the first, but it was clearly forced... when a 4 nation army is at your border with planes, tanks, and hundreds of thousands of soldiers... you dont presume they've come to bring you flowers.