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Thrilla · Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 21423 Location: Sin City

mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!! we have enough troops to do what must be done... we dont need or want a draft

Federali · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 162

mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!!

I think you're misunderstanding Rangel's goal here. He wants the draft so that Americans would never allow itself to be misled by the likes of George Bush. That people would think long and hard about another stupid, unnecessary war if their own children were involved.

As a Conservative, I agree with Rangel on this issue. Renewing the draft would remove the misleading influence of Neo-Cons in American politics.

Anarko-Kapitalizt · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 2517

What is like the second or third time this C**s**ker (aka politician) has tried this?

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 10662 Location: Bay Area, CA

Thrilla wrote: mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!! we have enough troops to do what must be done... we dont need or want a draft

Really? I'm actually just curious. Why do you think so? :think:

Freemason · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 614

Kane wrote: Thrilla wrote: mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!! we have enough troops to do what must be done... we dont need or want a draft

Really? I'm actually just curious. Why do you think so? :think:

We have 2.2 million soldiers - only 140,000 are in Iraq. Case closed.

Anarko-Kapitalizt · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 2517

Freemason wrote: Kane wrote: Thrilla wrote: mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!! we have enough troops to do what must be done... we dont need or want a draft

Really? I'm actually just curious. Why do you think so? :think:

We have 2.2 million soldiers - only 140,000 are in Iraq. Case closed.

I didn't know the Government had that many murderers.

Freemason · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 614

Anarko-Kapitalizt wrote: Freemason wrote: Kane wrote: Thrilla wrote: mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!! we have enough troops to do what must be done... we dont need or want a draft

Really? I'm actually just curious. Why do you think so? :think:

We have 2.2 million soldiers - only 140,000 are in Iraq. Case closed.

I didn't know the Government had that many murderers.

Silly hippy - you have to kill a person for it to be murder...Arabs aren't people!

Anarko-Kapitalizt · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 2517

Freemason wrote: Anarko-Kapitalizt wrote: Freemason wrote: Kane wrote: Thrilla wrote: mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!! we have enough troops to do what must be done... we dont need or want a draft

Really? I'm actually just curious. Why do you think so? :think:

We have 2.2 million soldiers - only 140,000 are in Iraq. Case closed.

I didn't know the Government had that many murderers.

Silly hippy - you have to kill a person for it to be murder...Arabs aren't people!

:lol:

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 10662 Location: Bay Area, CA

Freemason wrote: Kane wrote: Thrilla wrote: mindwarrior wrote: I am a conservative Republican but do agree with Mr. Rangel on this issue. We are definitely low on our troop numbers and operational brigades. I wholeheartedly support a re-institution of the draft. I hope they will have the same exclusions as they did in the 60's and 70's and will allow college students a deferrment, as this will get our high schoolers to work hard and compete for college placement. We need at least another 2 million
soldiers to deal with the issues we face and be victorious. People who volunteer should also be given picks of assignments and a higher level of pay. If someone is going to be a volunteer that should be recognized.

Go Mr. Rangel.!! we have enough troops to do what must be done... we dont need or want a draft

Really? I'm actually just curious. Why do you think so? :think:

We have 2.2 million soldiers - only 140,000 are in Iraq. Case closed.

Then why have we called on the National Guard? Why have periods of deployment extended themselves? Why:

"The Pentagon's closely guarded review of how to improve the situation in Iraq has outlined three basic options: Send in more troops, shrink the force but stay longer, or pull out, according to senior defense officials."

MSNBC

Not only that...your statement doesn't even explain why we don't have more of those 2.2 Million in Iraq right now. Which would essentially prove back to my initial question...

Kane wrote: Why do you think so?

freedomfights · Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 2

hahahaha are u guys blind there already been a backdoor draft for years wut diference is this

jamesp · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 3507

it probably won't happen but what Rangle did was suicide for the bigger mission..

DEMS IN POWER

right after the election:

Dodd comes out with a BILL to protect Terrorists
Rangle proposes DRAFT

The ICE in the party drinks has not even melted yet and the TRUE party platform emerges.

Hello , ? Libs ? anyone home ?

Nobody in America wants to protect Terrorists and
NOBODY wants a Draft..

The nation supposedly voted NOV 7th to GET OUT of Iraq, not draft young kids to GO TO IRAQ ...

2008 is already in meltdown.

But no suprise here, DEMS won the election on the soundbites and no plans which pretty much left everything they do up for possiblilty.

America can now see first hand , just a few weeks after the BIG WIN who these people really are and what they stand for.

Black Sheep 5 · Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1776 Location: Phoenix

Nixon wrote: Quote: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An influential Democratic lawmaker on Sunday called for reinstatement of the draft as a way to boost U.S. troop levels and draw a broader section of the population into the military or public service.

U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel, the incoming chairman of the House of Representatives' tax-writing committee, said he would introduce legislation to reinstate the draft as soon as the new, Democratic-controlled Congress convenes in January.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," he said.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-11-19T174004Z_01_N19349552_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-POLITICS-DRAFT.xml&WTmodLoc=PolNewsHome_C1_%5BFeed%5D-8

Could Rangel possibly become more of a joke?
His push for a new draft a few years ago was a purely political move to scare the voters into thinking it might happen.

Now that his ilk is back in power, he must either push for such legislation or admit the whole thing was just him playing politics.
Who in their right minds would vote for a draft? Even if they believed it was necessary(which everyone knows it isn't), they would never be reelected.

However, it will be fun to watch this farce play out. This has got to be the dumbest damn move anyone can make. An all volunteer force is way more effective than a conscripted force.

Black Sheep 5 · Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1776 Location: Phoenix

freedomfights wrote: hahahaha are u guys blind there already been a backdoor draft for years wut diference is this What the hell is a backdoor draft. People are joining of their own free will, and its not just the poor and stupid.

Heinz · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 1636 Location: Philadelphia

freedomfights wrote: hahahaha are u guys blind there already been a backdoor draft for years wut diference is this

Backdoor draft?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That kool-aide must be good.

Heinz · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 1636 Location: Philadelphia

Black Sheep 5 wrote: freedomfights wrote: hahahaha are u guys blind there already been a backdoor draft for years wut diference is this What the hell is a backdoor draft. People are joining of their own free will, and its not just the poor and stupid.

Brother, it's when we activate Guard and Reserve soldiers.

That to them is a "backdoor draft," even though they signed up like everyone else.

ubikk · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 2091

I voted mostly for democrats and I support a draft.

Heinz · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 1636 Location: Philadelphia

ubikk wrote: I voted mostly for democrats and I support a draft.

Why?

I don't want people in my military who don't want to be there.

Ek0nomik · Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: La Fleur

I don't understand the difference? I don't support a draft, nor does a majority of the American people given the polling data. I am still confused how this is difference than what we all have to sign up for when we turn 18.

Heinz · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 1636 Location: Philadelphia

Ek0nomik wrote: I don't understand the difference? I don't support a draft, nor does a majority of the American people given the polling data. I am still confused how this is difference than what we all have to sign up for when we turn 18.

This would initate what you guys signed up for.......

It would make the draft ACTIVE.

It is currently INACTIVE.

Ek0nomik · Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: La Fleur

Well than I must ask, what the hell is the difference?

Just because it's active doesn't mean people would be recruited instantly. It would serve its purpose in a time of need. If we needed troops in Iraq desperately (our men and women volunteers have ran out), than it would become active on its own. What is the difference in policy?