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mr.snruB



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Just a question about "God" and man  

God = Omniscient

Man = made in God's image

Made in God's image means that we look the same as God does. If our body is in Gods bodies image, and our brain is part of our body, then our brain would be made to be the same as gods brain. So if our brain is the same, then the capability of both would be equal, correct?

Does that mean that man has the mental ability to become omniscient?

How did God become omniscient?
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

mr.snruB wrote: God = Omniscient

Man = made in God's image

Made in God's image means that we look the same as God does. If our body is in Gods bodies image, and our brain is part of our body, then our brain would be made to be the same as gods brain. So if our brain is the same, then the capability of both would be equal, correct?

Does that mean that man has the mental ability to become omniscient?

How did God become omniscient?
The brain has nothing to do with image.
Perhaps God doesn't exist within the rules of time and space, ask Him when you die.
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

mr.snruB wrote: Made in God's image means that we look the same as God does.

No.

mr.snruB wrote: If our body is in Gods bodies image, and our brain is part of our body, then our brain would be made to be the same as gods brain.

No.

mr.snruB wrote: So if our brain is the same, then the capability of both would be equal, correct?

No.

mr.snruB wrote: Does that mean that man has the mental ability to become omniscient?

No.

mr.snruB wrote: How did God become omniscient?

First you have to ask, "How did God become?"
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mr.snruB



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject:  

What do you mean "No"? What does "made in Gods image" mean, then?
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject:  

mr.snruB wrote: What do you mean "No"? What does "made in Gods image" mean, then?

Many things, depending on who you talk to.

However, if God is all-powerful, then does He really have an image? Considering, of course, that He has the power to alter his form (as He has done all throughout the Old Testament), then can we really say that God has any form of His own?

What is the image of a shape-shifter?
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mr.snruB



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject:  

He may be a shape shifter, but it says that it's in his "own image". So he's got to have one main image that he copied humans with.
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject:  

mr.snruB wrote: He may be a shape shifter, but it says that it's in his "own image". So he's got to have one main image that he copied humans with.

No... Genesis 1:26 says "The God said, 'Let us make man in our image'".

God never says that man is made in His image.
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zMtLlC



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

mr.snruB wrote:
Man = made in God's image


I don't think this necessarily means physical image.
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The Comrade



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

mr.snruB wrote: God = Omniscient

Man = made in God's image

Made in God's image means that we look the same as God does. If our body is in Gods bodies image, and our brain is part of our body, then our brain would be made to be the same as gods brain. So if our brain is the same, then the capability of both would be equal, correct?

Does that mean that man has the mental ability to become omniscient?

How did God become omniscient?



we only use 10% of brains.

it's quite possible that other 90% is omnipotence and omniscience.
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mr.snruB



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

The Comrade wrote: mr.snruB wrote: God = Omniscient

Man = made in God's image

Made in God's image means that we look the same as God does. If our body is in Gods bodies image, and our brain is part of our body, then our brain would be made to be the same as gods brain. So if our brain is the same, then the capability of both would be equal, correct?

Does that mean that man has the mental ability to become omniscient?

How did God become omniscient?



we only use 10% of brains.

it's quite possible that other 90% is omnipotence and omniscience.

No...we use 100% of our brains. We only use 10% at a time. That means that, say, when we're daydreaming or perhaps drawing a picture, that part of our brain that would crunch numbers and do our taxes is not in use
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mr.snruB



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

zMtLlC wrote: mr.snruB wrote:
Man = made in God's image


I don't think this necessarily means physical image.

What else would image mean? As simplistic as that sounds (I'm sure you're thinking "ha ha, what a simpleton. He only thinks image applies to physical features. Ha ha"), is there really anything else? Anything like spirit or thoughts or philosophy or morals is not an image
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The Comrade



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

mr.snruB wrote:

No...we use 100% of our brains. We only use 10% at a time. That means that, say, when we're daydreaming or perhaps drawing a picture, that part of our brain that would crunch numbers and do our taxes is not in use


ah.

nevermind then.
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mr.snruB



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject:  

LostSoul3412 wrote: mr.snruB wrote: He may be a shape shifter, but it says that it's in his "own image". So he's got to have one main image that he copied humans with.

No... Genesis 1:26 says "The God said, 'Let us make man in our image'".

God never says that man is made in His image.

What is god, schizophrenic? Besides, if he says "our", that's still including himself
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The Comrade



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject:  

mr.snruB wrote:

What is god, schizophrenic? Besides, if he says "our", that's still including himself


it's my understanding that god made man in the image of the angels.

don't know the story of lucifer?
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zMtLlC



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

mr.snruB wrote: zMtLlC wrote: mr.snruB wrote:
Man = made in God's image


I don't think this necessarily means physical image.

What else would image mean? As simplistic as that sounds (I'm sure you're thinking "ha ha, what a simpleton. He only thinks image applies to physical features. Ha ha"), is there really anything else? Anything like spirit or thoughts or philosophy or morals is not an image
It means that we were made perfect, like God, with a free will. You have to remember that the bible has been translated so many times that it's probably not a perfect translation.
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mr.snruB



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject:  

We're perfect?
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zMtLlC



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject:  

mr.snruB wrote: We're perfect?
We were sinless. Remember the whole Garden of Eden thing?
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject:  

mr.snruB wrote: What is god, schizophrenic?

Like The Comrade said, He made angels first.
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Gus



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject:  

This is basically a scriptural interpretation debate, so....


Moved to Religion.
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Narvik



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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Just a question about "God" and man  

zMtLlC wrote: mr.snruB wrote: zMtLlC wrote: mr.snruB wrote:
Man = made in God's image


I don't think this necessarily means physical image.

What else would image mean? As simplistic as that sounds (I'm sure you're thinking "ha ha, what a simpleton. He only thinks image applies to physical features. Ha ha"), is there really anything else? Anything like spirit or thoughts or philosophy or morals is not an image
It means that we were made perfect, like God, with a free will. You have to remember that the bible has been translated so many times that it's probably not a perfect translation.
and yet 2 billion people follow it..
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