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Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

Quote: Ramzi bin al-Shibh received a four-week visa to Iran and then flew to Tehran—an apparent stop-off point on his way to meet with Al Qaeda chiefs in Afghanistan, according to law-enforcement documents obtained by NEWSWEEK.

German government documents showing the previously undisclosed trip by bin al-Shibh, a captured Al Qaeda operative who played a crucial coordinating role in the 9/11 plot, is the latest evidence that the World Trade Center conspirators frequently used Iran as a safe transit point in their travels to and from Afghanistan.

The final report of the 9-11 Commission, which is due out tomorrow, contains significant new information about a possible “Iran connection” to the plot, including a U.S. intelligence analysis indicating that Iranian border inspectors were instructed not to stamp the passports of Al Qaeda members entering and exiting their country. Although the information has been known to the U.S. intelligence community for some time, President Bush told reporters this week that the U.S. government was “digging into the facts to determine if there was” a possible Iranian connection to the September 11 attacks.

The president’s comments were touched off by news reports, by NEWSWEEK and other news organizations, that the 9/11 panel will reveal this week that as many as 10 of the so-called “muscle hijackers” traveled through Iran between the fall of 2000 and February 2001.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5479438/site/newsweek/

I think Iran was more responsible for 09-11 than Saddam. We must take the fight to the enemy that attacked us secondary to the 9-11 Commission Report and other information.

Please explain your position. 8:)

Gremlin · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 7808 Location: On the Run.

please dont run for office.

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 7657

Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11...

How about we focus on him for a change?

psholtz · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 23202 Location: California

OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Gremlin · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 7808 Location: On the Run.

Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

psholtz wrote: OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Are you saying that the findings of the 9-11 Comission are false? 8:)

Revenant · Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 15852 Location: Bliss

psholtz wrote: OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Why the VP? Why not the President? He has obviously duped you and many other people into thinking he is retarded, when people that have met the guy before he got into the oval office described him a shrewd and calculating.

Revenant · Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 15852 Location: Bliss

Mr. Sunshine wrote: psholtz wrote: OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Are you saying that the findings of the 9-11 Comission are false? 8:)

Um...yeah, pretty much.

Kumar · Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 14019 Location: Himalayas

I found an interesting report regarding an American attack against Iran in terms of strategy and consequences. It is published by the same group that accurately predicted the outcome of a war in Iraq back in 2002 (specifically, the rapid defeat of Saddam's forces and the development of a formidable insurgency) while administration officials were starting to make claims of Iraqis showering foreign troops with flowers in response to an invasion. Their stated consequences of an attack on Iran are essentially the same things I have been saying for the past little while. There is little that Iran can do to prevent large-scale aerial attacks by the US. Its reponse will come on the ground. In terms of Iraq alone:

Quote: Overall, and given the nature of the Iran/Iraq border, Iran would be in a very strong position to aid elements of the Iraqi insurgency in numerous ways, providing a wide range of armaments as well as personnel. This would give a substantial boost to an insurgency that, even three years after the termination of the old regime, is as active as ever.

And overall:
Quote: A US military attack on Iranian nuclear infrastructure would be the start of a protracted military confrontation that would probably involve Iraq, Israel and Lebanon as well as the United States and Iran, with the possibility of west Gulf states being involved as well. An attack by Israel, although initially on a smaller scale, would almost certainly escalate to involve the United States, and would also mark the start of a protracted conflict.
http://www.iranbodycount.org/

It's a stupid idea.

Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

LostSoul3412 wrote: Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11...

How about we focus on him for a change?

The 9-11 Commission says Bin Laden used Iran as part of the plan. Do you want to ignore that? Bin Laden is one man, may he rest in pieces. Al Qaeda is a viable threat that killed our innocent civilians. 8:)

Gremlin · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 7808 Location: On the Run.

Mr. Sunshine wrote: psholtz wrote: OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Are you saying that the findings of the 9-11 Comission are false? 8:)

I would add criminally liable as well.

Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

Gremlin wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: psholtz wrote: OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Are you saying that the findings of the 9-11 Comission are false? 8:)

I would add criminally liable as well.

Proof? :roll:

Kumar · Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 14019 Location: Himalayas

psholtz wrote: * First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..
Indeed. Next it will be Syria.

psholtz · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 23202 Location: California

Revenant wrote: psholtz wrote: OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Why the VP? Why not the President? He has obviously duped you and many other people into thinking he is retarded, when people that have met the guy before he got into the oval office described him a shrewd and calculating.
Dozens of criminals operating in the US military-industrial establishment are responsible for 9/11..

If I had to choose a "prime" suspect, I would pick Dick Cheney..

Of course, I'm sure the president had much to do w/ those crimes as well.

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 7657

Mr. Sunshine wrote: The 9-11 Commission says Bin Laden used Iran as part of the plan.

He also used the United States as part of the plan, maybe we should attack ourselves...

:roll:

psholtz · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 23202 Location: California

Gremlin wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: psholtz wrote: OMG... :rotf:

This thread is a joke, right?

* First "Afghanistan" caused 9/11...
* Then "Iraq" caused 9/11..
* Now "Iran" caused 9/11..

Oceania is at war w/ Iran.. Oceania has always been at war w/ Iran.

All the while ignoring that the hijackers the government claims carried out the attacks mostly came from Saudi Arabia.

If you desire to know who carried out 9/11, you need look no further than the office of the Vice President.

Are you saying that the findings of the 9-11 Comission are false? 8:)

I would add criminally liable as well.
Yes, the 9/11 Commission was little more than a criminal coverup..

That makes them murderers-after-the-fact under the law..

Gremlin · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 7808 Location: On the Run.

Mr. Sunshine wrote: Gremlin wrote: Mr. Sunshine wrote: Are you saying that the findings of the 9-11 Comission are false? 8:)

I would add criminally liable as well.

Proof? :roll:

Unfortunately i dont hold peoples hand unless your my girlfriend.
Apparently you need to do a little more research on the subject as the report is a total fraud.

callous · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 15285 Location: In The Open

A thread assuming iraq was responsible for 9/11.

Man, this election really messed conservatives over more than I thought it did.

:lol:

psholtz · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 23202 Location: California

callous wrote: A thread assuming iraq was responsible for 9/11.

Man, this election really messed conservatives over more than I thought it did.

:lol:
I know.. :lol:

The way this question is phrased is absurd... Was Iran more responible for 9/11 than Iraq?

It's like asking: so do you still beat your wife?

You can't answer the question "yes" or "no" and still win.. :lol:

There needs to be an option here that reads something like "I cannot make a legal determination concerning the truth or falsehood of this question" or some such lawyer jargon..

Revenant · Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 15852 Location: Bliss

My other thread got locked.....damn. Everyone read it while you still can :lol: