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[sleepy2k16]

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More info goto http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

I am going to give reasons proving The U.S. Govt did it, how they did it, and at the end I am going to give reasons why they did it.

1. Operation Northwoods, "N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.":
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&pa...id=92662&page=1

2. Alex Jones Predicts Attack (Mentioned on FOX news): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8116395518760933323&q=alex+jones+predicts+attack&hl=en

3. God Help Us: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2024198565295094630&q=alex+jones+a+call+to+action&hl=en

4. At least 4 hijackers turned up alive, but i heard as many as 9

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

5. The melting Point of Steel is 3000F and Fire is around 500-700F with burning Jet fuel around 1200-1400F. Skeptics have claimed, Steel doesnt Have to melt, but only weaken to collpase, This May be true, HOWEVER, It would not make a 1/4 Mile High Skyscraper, Collapse in 9-10 Seconds.

6. An increase of 400% increase in put options on 9-6-01 and 9-7-01 on serveral airline stocks. An increase of 1100% Increase an in increase of put options on airline stocks on 9-10-01

7. FBI confinscated tapes at a nearby hotel and gas station minutes after the "plane" hit the pentagon.

8. Debris from the building was taken and illegally sold to china before anybody could really investigate.

9. If you watch the video of the towers coming down, You can notice bombs going off in the building.

10. Larry Silverstein Admitted blowing up WTC7 On a PBS Documentary. Skeptics Have Claimed He meant He was Pulling the Firefighters From the Building. Thats Funny, I thought When you call a person or persons "him" "them" or "em" not "it". Meanwhile The firefighters Were already Pulled from the Building 7 Houes before it Collpased. Skeptics Have Claimed, Well Maybe he did hit the Dynamite, But It takes severals weeks for them to carefully place explosives in a building. Call any Demolition Company.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=larry+silverstein+pull+it&hl=en

11. Larry Silverstein got High Insurance on WTC7 Including terrosm insurance.

12. 6 Months Before 9/11 They passed laws saying No pilots can carry guns, when pilots were allowed to carry guns for 40 years. (I am not sure this is 100% Accurate, I need to look into this more. Please Let me know if you find anything.)

13. As Charlie Sheen said, How can a plane make a 270 degree turn and drop 7000 feet in attitude in less then 2 minutes?

14. I heard it is impossible for cell phones to work on planes moving at 500mph and at 30000 Feet.

15. The "hijackers" said the wrong islamic message when approaching death. Who was

16. Survivors and Eye witnesses Reporting seeing, hearing explosions.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2032865563019209801&q=9+11+FIREFIGHTERS&hl=en Laugh at the Firefighters!!

17. Thermite was found at the scene. BYU Professor Steve E. Jones Have tested Postive some substance for Thermite, It was later Proven to cut the Main Pillars in the World Trade Center. It was the yellow goowy substance Dripping From the towers as CNN, FOX, Etc reported on 9/11/01.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635198488,00.html

18. Janitor was offered Millions of dallors to shut up and he refused, or so he said. See Video #6

19. Science Says Buildings Collasping CAN NOT fall at the speed of gravity unless Dynimite.

20. In the New American Century Dick Cheney Said We need a new Pearl Harbor. "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

21. Less then 15 Million Was spend Investigating 9-11 and more then 45 Million on Clintons Sex Life. (Appox)

22. How can a 757 That is 129' Wide Make a 16' Hole?

23. Between Both Engines on Flight 77 Or a 757, Its combined weight is 10-12 Tons. It is made of Steel And Titnium. Its melting Point is around 2600F. The Fire didnt get anywhre near that tempurature at the Pentagon. Yet No Engines Were Found.

24. You think fire can cause this?:

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20060820.htm

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/13/more_bone_fragments_found_near_wtc_site/?rss_id=Boston.com+%2F+News

25. Bush say the First Plane hit the First Tower! LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6kouXg40Q&mode=related&search

26. Jimmy Walter Is offering $100,000 To Anybody Who can Prove 9/11 Was NOT An Inside Job. Even PM Couldnt Stand Up.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41957

For more evidence watch these films:

1. http://www.loosechange911.com

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change&hl=en

2. 9/11 The Greatest Lie ever sold: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950&q=9%2F11+THE+GREATEST+LIE+EVER+SOLD&hl=en

3. 9/11 the Road to Tyranny: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6517776133137328105&q=9%2F11+the+Road+to+Tyranny&hl=en

4. Masters of Terror: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7752483415674202196&q=MASTERS+OF+TERROR

5. Martial Law: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=MARTIAL+LAW+RISE+OF+POLICE+STATE

6. C-SPAN conference: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5004704309041471296&q=AMERICAN+C+SPAN

7. TerrorStorm: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=terrorstorm&hl=en



Now I am going to give you why they did it, then i will share some links.

1. Patriot act

2. Patriot act 2

3. Eliminate the Consitution

4. Bring forth the NWO

5. Bankrupt the USA to bring forth a NWO

6. Scare americans to give up there right in exchange for "security" when you will just get tyranny and a police state.

7. Justify an Iraq War.

8. Bring forth a Real ID Act, which was passed on 5-11-05, and then the "mark of the beast"

9. To Pretty Much Allow Bush to do anything He wants. Look at this:

http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=504353

Now if you want links goto http://www.911blogger.com/ and check that out and there are 50 links on the right hand side.

Also check out http://www.infowars.com http://prisonplanet.com http://www.jonesreport.com

Last But not Least:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/911%20Cover-up/truth_about_911.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

Hitler Once Said, The Bigger the Lie, The easier it is Believed.

War on terror is a scam!!

"In January of 2003 FBI and CIA whistleblowers told Capitol Hill Blue that the White House was scripting phony terror alerts to maintain hysteria, upkeep President Bushs approval ratings and milk extra defense funding. The report that five Pakistani men had entered the States via Canada and were planning on carrying out a dirty bomb or biological attack was completely conjured up by the Bush administrations black propaganda office. New York Harbor was shut down to visibly pump up the fear. One of the named suspects, Mohammed Asghar (pictured left), was tracked down to Pakistan by the Associated Press. He was a fat guy running a jewellers shop and had never even been to America.

http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/red_alert_for_staged_terror_attack.htm

Thank You for reading, We must fight this and expose this and resist The New World Order, and Resist the cashless society.

[Thrilla]

first rule in posting... make sure the topic is in the right forum :wink:

moved

[Mare Tranquillity]

I've read most of this stuff before and I think you are probably correct. But the sheeple will never get up the gumption to examine the evidence, let alone impeach Bush. As a country I suspect we are done for becasuse too many people are willing to exchange their freedom for the illusion of security.

[metalan1]

I for one have hope. Hope that this country will soon see the truth. However, the lies keep spewing from the dragons mouth. We need to combat anyhting promoting their propaganda. Overall,some nice info, in the post.

[sleepy2k16]

I am pleased to see you guys on the same page as me, When I posted this at other forums, I was usually banned, insulted, But they never challenged me on the facts. The sad thing is I think History is repeating itself :(

[cap'n queasy]

Mare Tranquillity wrote: I've read most of this stuff before and I think you are probably correct. But the sheeple will never get up the gumption to examine the evidence, let alone impeach Bush. As a country I suspect we are done for becasuse too many people are willing to exchange their freedom for the illusion of security.

Do you really believe that a dictator cruel enough to slaughter his own people for no reason would allow himself to be impeached?

Point of logic.
If the guy was evil and powerful enough to attack his own country and get away with it, why would he need any excuse to attack another country?

If the government had complete enough control of the country to pull off a conspiracy of that magnitude in the first place keeping a bunch of slaves happy by staging a fake attack would be absolutely unecessary. They couldn't do anything about it anyway.

These theories are ridiculous.

[Reverend_HellH0und]

Man you are like the first guy to bring this to our attention......

[PheelGoodInc]

Mare Tranquillity wrote: I've read most of this stuff before and I think you are probably correct. But the sheeple will never get up the gumption to examine the evidence, let alone impeach Bush. As a country I suspect we are done for becasuse too many people are willing to exchange their freedom for the illusion of security.

Please. This article hits the nail on the head. Lets take an exerp from it shall we....

http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/42181/
Quote:
BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Don, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers al-Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Don. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs, and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed, and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of f***ing nowhere somewhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of f***ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, okay.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do, and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork, and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world, and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington DC fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI-5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? s**t, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!


Don't hurt yourself thinking too much about it ;)

[PheelGoodInc]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Man you are like the first guy to bring this to our attention......

The first guy this hour.

[Wizard From Oz]

Quote: 17. Thermite was found at the scene. BYU Professor Steve E. Jones Have tested Postive some substance for Thermite, It was later Proven to cut the Main Pillars in the World Trade Center. It was the yellow goowy substance Dripping From the towers as CNN, FOX, Etc reported on 9/11/01

Whats his credentials for testing for thermite residue?

Quote: 19. Science Says Buildings Collasping CAN NOT fall at the speed of gravity unless Dynimite.


Ahh huh - so Newtons third law of motion is invalid, and his Law of universal gravity is a scam.... well that adds up. I always thought gravity was a myth and the Earth actually s*cks

Quote: 5. The melting Point of Steel is 3000F and Fire is around 500-700F with burning Jet fuel around 1200-1400F. Skeptics have claimed, Steel doesnt Have to melt, but only weaken to collpase, This May be true, HOWEVER, It would not make a 1/4 Mile High Skyscraper, Collapse in 9-10 Seconds.

And your credentials to make this claim are?????????

[ChuckBerry]

So, are the Alex Jones' prophesied attacks by late October the rumored October Surprise hinted at by Karl Rove?

[David]

sleepy2k16 wrote: I am pleased to see you guys on the same page as me, When I posted this at other forums, I was usually banned, insulted, But they never challenged me on the facts. The sad thing is I think History is repeating itself :(


You'll find that we are more lenient about a lot of things.We tend to let our members refute any controversial posts.

[psholtz]

metalan1 wrote: I for one have hope. Hope that this country will soon see the truth. However, the lies keep spewing from the dragons mouth. We need to combat anyhting promoting their propaganda. Overall,some nice info, in the post.
I would like to see real indictments and real prosecutions handed down against the (USG) criminals who were responsible for 9/11..

[psholtz]

cap'n queasy wrote: Mare Tranquillity wrote: I've read most of this stuff before and I think you are probably correct. But the sheeple will never get up the gumption to examine the evidence, let alone impeach Bush. As a country I suspect we are done for becasuse too many people are willing to exchange their freedom for the illusion of security.

Do you really believe that a dictator cruel enough to slaughter his own people for no reason would allow himself to be impeached?
I agree..

This is way beyond mere "impeachment"... Impeachment is used when the president commits some kind of "misdemeanor" .. This is so far beyond that so as to not even apply to the situation anymore.

Bush needs to be immediately arrested and prosecuted on any number of felony crimes.. treason, murder, etc..

[psholtz]

cap'n queasy wrote: If the government had complete enough control of the country to pull off a conspiracy of that magnitude in the first place keeping a bunch of slaves happy by staging a fake attack would be absolutely unecessary. They couldn't do anything about it anyway.
It's not just about the "American people"..

In the eyes of the Establishment, the American people are almost completely worthless. If it was just about the American people, than what you say is correct. Nobody would ever bother doing much of anything for them. They are (by and large) weak, groveling, foolish, cowardly slaves..

But don't forget that Bush has to convincingly sell his wars to the rest of planet as well, esp say European allies, etc. Using a staged terror attack like 9/11 as a pretext for his wars works well in this regard.

[Mighty Oak]

Good post sleepy.More and more people are wakeing up to reality.We are at the begginings of a mass awakening,some awake before other.As more and more corruption is exposed it will become impossible for most to overlook.

Your efforts are appreciated. :wink:

[DavidXV]

PheelGoodInc wrote: Mare Tranquillity wrote: I've read most of this stuff before and I think you are probably correct. But the sheeple will never get up the gumption to examine the evidence, let alone impeach Bush. As a country I suspect we are done for becasuse too many people are willing to exchange their freedom for the illusion of security.

Please. This article hits the nail on the head. Lets take an exerp from it shall we....

http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/42181/
Quote:
BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Don, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers al-Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Don. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs, and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed, and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of f***ing nowhere somewhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of f***ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, okay.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do, and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork, and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world, and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington DC fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI-5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? s**t, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!


Don't hurt yourself thinking too much about it ;) :rotf:

[DavidXV]

The sheeple won't wake up until they are eaten by a giant lizzard! :-|

[Mighty Oak]

DavidXV wrote: PheelGoodInc wrote: Mare Tranquillity wrote: I've read most of this stuff before and I think you are probably correct. But the sheeple will never get up the gumption to examine the evidence, let alone impeach Bush. As a country I suspect we are done for becasuse too many people are willing to exchange their freedom for the illusion of security.

Please. This article hits the nail on the head. Lets take an exerp from it shall we....

http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/42181/
Quote:
BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Don, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers al-Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Don. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs, and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed, and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of f***ing nowhere somewhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of f***ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, okay.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do, and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork, and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world, and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington DC fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI-5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? s**t, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!


Don't hurt yourself thinking too much about it ;) :rotf: This is so lame.To think that GWB could even comprehend such a plan is ludicrous much less not screw it up.He,GWB was not told a thing,he's a puppet,you can't be too smart to be a puppet or you may realize that you are a puppet,hence GWB.Why don't you ask yourselves why GWB would sit in a classroom that was publicly broadcast of his whereabouts for,what was it 30 minutes,hmmm maybe the head guy in the secret service should be asked that question.

Why this fabricated post is allowed in a discussion is beyond me.

[flamboyant]

The conspiracy freaks' daily "to do" list:

1. Find your favorite 5-page hodgepodge collection of all the random conspiracy angles on 9/11 from the lunatic fringes of the Internet. Copy to clipboard.

2. Google a list of all the politically-related forums you can find.

3. Beginning at the top of the list, create a new account and log in.

4. Paste said collection of conspiracy theories.

5. Log out and move on to next forum on list.

6. Repeat ad infinitum.

7. At the end of the day, imagine you helped bring a couple more paranoids into the fold. Imagine your worthless campaign of cutting-and-pasting actually makes a difference in the world.