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jeechoscopy



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: If... for the sake of world's peace.  

If Osama bin Laden and his Al-Qaida surrender and turn to dialogue...


would you support him as for the sake of the world's peace?
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Richard Owl Mirror



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject:  

Words are my Weapon of choice and Truth is my Shield

Anyone who incorporates the above principle deserves to be heard.

The problem with people like Osama bin Laden is that they sieze upon violence as their first instinct.
The rhetoric of "Islam is a Religion of Peace" coupled with the caveat that Peace will only be evident
upon complete submission is a non-starter in regards to negotiations.

The time for dialog comes before the initial violent action, not afterwords.
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StrangerWitCandy



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject:  

Never! :)
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curisz



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject:  

Support him how? I would support his right to a fair and speedy trial. I would support not shooting someone who is surrendering. I would even be supportive of him writing books about why what he did was not in the true spirit of Islam from his cell on death row.
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Nathyn



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject:  

If Osama Bin Laden made the claim that he was willing to talk, it would probably be some kind of trick. And even if weren't a trick, that's how the U.S. government would interpret it. They'd just arrest him. But regardless, Bin Laden would probably never be dumb enough to even claim such a thing, even if he were sincere, which is extremely doubtful.

Your question makes about as much sense as asking:

If Jews are actually shapeshifting extraterrestrial lizards, what should we do to stop them?

If cabbage could speak, would you stiill eat salad?

And if toaster ovens one day become sentient, would you advocate the legalization of marriage between a man and a toaster?
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Rankor and Pissing



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject:  

The only thing I support where Bin Laden & any of his supporters are concerned are one these (below) to go literally through his mind.


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perdidochas



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: If... for the sake of world's peace.  

jeechoscopy wrote: If Osama bin Laden and his Al-Qaida surrender and turn to dialogue...


would you support him as for the sake of the world's peace?

No, as the Koran says that it is ok to lie to infidels. I wouldn't trust them farther than I could throw them.
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Richard Owl Mirror



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject:  

Which of these two identical posts are we going to post in?

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70421

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70425
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callous



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject:  

US soldiers died because our government sent them over there, not because of Osama.

I would not give a s**t whether Osama lived, prospered, or died. He is not the source of Americas problems, and he matters not one iota to reality other than the fact that his image is used to create emotional fire storms among weak minded people.
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Tono



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject:  

If there's anything I can do to help him get his virgins....
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jeechoscopy



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject:  

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Which of these two identical posts are we going to post in?

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70421

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70425

Do you understand the "psychology of being bitween the mistake and correction".....? :-D
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jeechoscopy



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject:  

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Words are my Weapon of choice and Truth is my Shield

Anyone who incorporates the above principle deserves to be heard.

The problem with people like Osama bin Laden is that they sieze upon violence as their first instinct.
The rhetoric of "Islam is a Religion of Peace" coupled with the caveat that Peace will only be evident
upon complete submission is a non-starter in regards to negotiations.

The time for dialog comes before the initial violent action, not afterwords.

You comments that "anyone who incorporate the above principle deserves to be heard" is not clear...

Questions appear like... will it be the same criterial if both parties use their weapons to speak instead they use their mouths, and vice versa?

... will the greater criminal be considered with it's greater martyr and the greater peace-maker would be considered with it's greater talkative abilities?

I can guess how a profiled image gives results. In this sense I would be doubting in Osama because he once, worked with CIA.
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