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thintheherd
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FL Conservative wrote: mr.snruB wrote: I don't use labels like that. Most of the time they're incorrect and idiotic. African American and Native American comes to mind
you may not wan't any labels on people but the minorities do...
Pfft... then they are fools. Labels are mere doorways to segregation. If they indeed do then they cannot b!tch about insisting that door remain open. |
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FL Conservative
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Tono wrote: FL Conservative wrote: you may not wan't any labels on people but the minorities do...
I don't know of any.
African Americans
Mexican Americans
few examples |
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Tono
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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FL Conservative wrote: African Americans
Mexican Americans
few examples
I don't know any of those. My friends are Black, Mexican, or Chicano. |
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Tono
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Have you met any, or are you just repeating what you've seen/heard on tv? |
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FL Conservative
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Tono wrote: Have you met any, or are you just repeating what you've seen/heard on tv?
yes i have, that is what they(most) preferred to be called |
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Tono
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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FL Conservative wrote: yes i have, that is what they(most) preferred to be called
Would you be offended if I said you're lying? |
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FL Conservative
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Tono wrote: FL Conservative wrote: yes i have, that is what they(most) preferred to be called
Would you be offended if I said you're lying?
No would you be offended if i said your lying to yourself? |
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Tono
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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FL Conservative wrote: No would you be offended if i said your lying to yourself?
Of course not. You've already rendered yourself irrelevent by using "Mexican American" as an example. Anybody who is actually close to people of Mexcian decent know that they'd never use that term except when being interviewed by CNN - and 9 times out of 10, not even then.
Ask any Mexican and they'll tell you the same. It's either Mexican, Chicano, or Latino.
Class dismissed. |
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FL Conservative
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Tono wrote: FL Conservative wrote: No would you be offended if i said your lying to yourself?
Of course not. You've already rendered yourself irrelevent by using "Mexican American" as an example. Anybody who is actually close to people of Mexcian decent know that they'd never use that term except when being interviewed by CNN - and 9 times out of 10, not even then.
Ask any Mexican and they'll tell you the same. It's either Mexican, Chicano, or Latino.
Class dismissed.
Well, I guess your right, most of them are not legal Americans anyways... |
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Thrilla
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Im caucasion-american.. I hail from Caucasia.... and as soon as i find the place on the map.. im going to visit the motherland. :-D |
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FL Conservative
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Tono wrote: FL Conservative wrote: No would you be offended if i said your lying to yourself?
Of course not. You've already rendered yourself irrelevent by using "Mexican American" as an example. Anybody who is actually close to people of Mexcian decent know that they'd never use that term except when being interviewed by CNN - and 9 times out of 10, not even then.
Ask any Mexican and they'll tell you the same. It's either Mexican, Chicano, or Latino.
Class dismissed.
another thing are there any blacks and Mexicans in Hawaii? |
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Fido
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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mr.snruB wrote: I don't use labels like that. Most of the time they're incorrect and idiotic. African American and Native American comes to mind
If you come here you don't really get to keep your culture even if your culture is what got you here, and makes you successful when you get here.
We like a sort of homgeneous non culture culture that keeps the best of everyone's food excluding rats, cats, and insects; and gradually supplant it with high fat, high sugar, high carb, low protean, and low fiber diets. As for the rest, we call it a melting pot; but it is more of an acid bath. You come out of that with everything you can clench between your teeth. Everything else is dissolved. Welcome to America. Take a number. |
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eynon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I like to think of myself as a "useful-american" :wink: |
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Tono
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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FL Conservative wrote: another thing are there any blacks and Mexicans in Hawaii?
Hawaii is the "melting pot" of the country. |
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FL Conservative
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Tono wrote: FL Conservative wrote: another thing are there any blacks and Mexicans in Hawaii?
Hawaii is the "melting pot" of the country.
It must take a pretty big bannana boat to get over there. |
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Tono
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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FL Conservative wrote: It must take a pretty big bannana boat to get over there.
Do you need a hug? |
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Medius
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bigstick61 wrote: I met a guy who was South African and white and black people used to get mad at him when he said he was an African-American. He used to reply, "I was born and raised in Africa. Have you even BEEN to Africa?" These labels, while PC, are stupid in my opinion. You are either American, or you are not. Ethnicities are not nationality based per se.
The only time I would disagree is for those who hold dual citizenship where a hyphenated label can be clarifying. Native American is fine in my opinion as it is at least accurate and some Native Americans do have subtle differences from other Americans depending upon tribal treaties and such.
For other cases, I agree. We are all just Americans. |
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FL Conservative
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Tono wrote: FL Conservative wrote: It must take a pretty big bannana boat to get over there.
Do you need a hug?
dude your lying.. |
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