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Tono
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: Hyphenated-Americans |
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Can someone post a list of acceptable labels which may be used to seperate Americans based on ethnicity and/or religion?
Mahalo. |
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The Newb
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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japanese-american
chinese-american
korean-american
african-american
ect.ect.
now if you want to be "politically correct" these labels are appropriate. i just prefer to call them americans if they are such, they became americans, and should be labeled as such |
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mr.snruB
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| I don't use labels like that. Most of the time they're incorrect and idiotic. African American and Native American comes to mind |
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The Newb
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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mr.snruB wrote: I don't use labels like that. Most of the time they're incorrect and idiotic.
that was my point |
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bigstick61
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I met a guy who was South African and white and black people used to get mad at him when he said he was an African-American. He used to reply, "I was born and raised in Africa. Have you even BEEN to Africa?" These labels, while PC, are stupid in my opinion. You are either American, or you are not. Ethnicities are not nationality based per se. |
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Somebloke
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I work with white and black or asian or whatever. If people dislike the label, I change it. It's a matter of simplicity for me, and if you don't like it, well I don't care enough not to change it.
Mind you, anyone who tries to get me to call them a 'real Australian' is asking for trouble. |
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Prof_2k7
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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The only one I hear fairly regularly is "African-American." My Asian friends either call themselves American or whatever their original nationality (Indian, Chinese, etc) happens to be.
I find this particularly odd as the connection modern American blacks have to Africa is tenuous at best. They are infinitely more "American" than a current German immigrant or a Japanese transplant. I personally think labels applied to people of dark(er) skin pigmant, etc is blatently racist. Heck, if I were black, I'd rather be called African-American than "negro"... but if MLK's dream ever materializes, I'd simply want to be called an American. |
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Marzelvane
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if you are an American citizen then you are called an American, i don't care if you're black, white, purple, whatever.
Now, if somebody wanted to inquire about race and nationality then maybe you could call a black person a black-american. or you could call an asian a yellow-american. :-P |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Hyphenated-Americans |
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Tono wrote: Can someone post a list of acceptable labels which may be used to seperate Americans based on ethnicity and/or religion?
American.
Tono wrote: Mahalo.
No thanks, I'm allergic. |
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bigstick61
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| When I'm referring to race, I usually use terms like oriental, asian, middle-eastern, negro, white/caucasian, hispanic, etc. |
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Lumina
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Prof_2k7 wrote: The only one I hear fairly regularly is "African-American." My Asian friends either call themselves American or whatever their original nationality (Indian, Chinese, etc) happens to be.
I find this particularly odd as the connection modern American blacks have to Africa is tenuous at best. They are infinitely more "American" than a current German immigrant or a Japanese transplant. I personally think labels applied to people of dark(er) skin pigmant, etc is blatently racist. Heck, if I were black, I'd rather be called African-American than "negro"... but if MLK's dream ever materializes, I'd simply want to be called an American.
Conservative econ. prof and commentator Walter Williams wrote a great piece a couple of years back--I'm looking for it now--on labeling and how he once was "colored," and then he was "Negro," and he even got used to "black." And that's how he self-describes now--because he got to a certain age and sensibility and decided "African-American" was really just too much work, LOL. |
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Prof_2k7
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Lumina wrote: Prof_2k7 wrote: The only one I hear fairly regularly is "African-American." My Asian friends either call themselves American or whatever their original nationality (Indian, Chinese, etc) happens to be.
I find this particularly odd as the connection modern American blacks have to Africa is tenuous at best. They are infinitely more "American" than a current German immigrant or a Japanese transplant. I personally think labels applied to people of dark(er) skin pigmant, etc is blatently racist. Heck, if I were black, I'd rather be called African-American than "negro"... but if MLK's dream ever materializes, I'd simply want to be called an American.
Conservative econ. prof and commentator Walter Williams wrote a great piece a couple of years back--I'm looking for it now--on labeling and how he once was "colored," and then he was "Negro," and he even got used to "black." And that's how he self-describes now--because he got to a certain age and sensibility and decided "African-American" was really just too much work, LOL.
lol, no doubt. I just counted and noticed that its 7 syllables to use that to label oneself. What a pain in the butt that would be! |
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sLiPpY
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| We're all Homo Sapiens. That's about the extent of it. :wink: |
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mr.snruB
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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bigstick61 wrote: When I'm referring to race, I usually use terms like oriental, asian, middle-eastern, negro, white/caucasian, hispanic, etc.
:lol: I'm sure that goes over well |
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jawsome
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I call myself Low Saxon-Flemish-American. |
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Centrist
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I call myself a mutt, even though I'm mostly English/Scottish. |
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VinceDee
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This was also discussed in this recent topic:
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70292
As soon as people start automatically knowing that they are supposed to call me Guamanian-American, then I'll start referring to others as hyphenated-Americans.
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Lumina
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Prof_2k7 wrote: Lumina wrote: Prof_2k7 wrote: The only one I hear fairly regularly is "African-American." My Asian friends either call themselves American or whatever their original nationality (Indian, Chinese, etc) happens to be.
I find this particularly odd as the connection modern American blacks have to Africa is tenuous at best. They are infinitely more "American" than a current German immigrant or a Japanese transplant. I personally think labels applied to people of dark(er) skin pigmant, etc is blatently racist. Heck, if I were black, I'd rather be called African-American than "negro"... but if MLK's dream ever materializes, I'd simply want to be called an American.
Conservative econ. prof and commentator Walter Williams wrote a great piece a couple of years back--I'm looking for it now--on labeling and how he once was "colored," and then he was "Negro," and he even got used to "black." And that's how he self-describes now--because he got to a certain age and sensibility and decided "African-American" was really just too much work, LOL.
lol, no doubt. I just counted and noticed that its 7 syllables to use that to label oneself. What a pain in the butt that would be!
Not to mention the hyphen! |
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FL Conservative
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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mr.snruB wrote: I don't use labels like that. Most of the time they're incorrect and idiotic. African American and Native American comes to mind
you may not wan't any labels on people but the minorities do... |
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Tono
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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FL Conservative wrote: you may not wan't any labels on people but the minorities do...
I don't know of any. |
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