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[Raurex]

Yeah everythings pretty much biased. What really makes me sick about news programs is how they try and make it like a drama reality TV show.

[The Russian]

well... its deff the "white house channel" ... the equivalent of political porn, where if you were to even catch a peak of the news broadcast, the moral center of your brain tells you that you should feel ashamed and dirty... and I'm serious. The only thing worse is listening to Rush or Coulter un-filtered... it makes you want to do something violent.

[Lumina]

The Russian wrote: well... its deff the "white house channel" ... the equivalent of political porn, where if you were to even catch a peak of the news broadcast, the moral center of your brain tells you that you should feel ashamed and dirty... and I'm serious. The only thing worse is listening to Rush or Coulter un-filtered... it makes you want to do something violent.

Oh, dear me! Please, never, ever watch Fox News again! I fear for your brain-health!

I mean, OMG! Oppositional/contrarian rhetoric inspires personal violence!

I had no idea at all that Rush or Coulter had such power--but thanks for the heads-up. I will proceed with caution. Heck, I may choose to read only those ideas that agree perfectly with mine. I mean, I fer-shure don't want to become violent!

[JDHURF]

Why is it that in response to the allegations, supported by documented evidence and video, that Fox news is twisting reality and events in order to fit them into the prepackaged news they have already decided to broadcast all of the conservatives and republicans on this site ignore them and wage allegations against alleged liberal and democratic news networks?

I don’t support any of the news networks, I believe they are all biased and corrupt to a degree. However, this incident has proven that Fox is the most maniacal in its corrupt actions and the fact that other networks are also likely corrupt does not ameliorate this disturbing problem.

[The Newb]

JDHURF wrote: Why is it that in response to the allegations, supported by documented evidence and video, that Fox news is twisting reality and events in order to fit them into the prepackaged news they have already decided to broadcast all of the conservatives and republicans on this site ignore them and wage allegations against alleged liberal and democratic news networks?

I don’t support any of the news networks, I believe they are all biased and corrupt to a degree. However, this incident has proven that Fox is the most maniacal in its corrupt actions and the fact that other networks are also likely corrupt does not ameliorate this disturbing problem.

no my point was and still is that they are equally dumb and you need to watch 3 or 4 news stations, sift through the bs, and find 4-5 minutes of news in every hour of broacast

[thintheherd]

JDHURF wrote: Why is it that in response to the allegations, supported by documented evidence and video, that Fox news is twisting reality and events in order to fit them into the prepackaged news they have already decided to broadcast all of the conservatives and republicans on this site ignore them and wage allegations against alleged liberal and democratic news networks?

I don’t support any of the news networks, I believe they are all biased and corrupt to a degree. However, this incident has proven that Fox is the most maniacal in its corrupt actions and the fact that other networks are also likely corrupt does not ameliorate this disturbing problem.
It proves nothing beyond the fact that the primary goal of any 'news' network is entertainment in exchange for dollars. None are any worse than the next, the prize of high ratings drives each equaly. Trust no one.

This from a man of better than a decade of broadcast experience.

[el_hombre_de_Dios]

JDHURF wrote: el_hombre_de_Dios wrote:

So you mean we are suppose to believe a quintessential leftists rag's (MSNBC) morally challenged view that FAUX is biased? It’s the evidence they provide which should determine ones believing them or not, not the provider of the evidence;

I've tried dissuading the zealots at this place that very same premise numerous times and all I ever got was laughed at. Anyone who truly seeks truth knows its not who says it, but what is said. Even imbeciles at times utter something profound. However, that said the laws of probability do play as a factor. MSNBC is a unabashed leftist rag; and with the amount of lemming type mind control that spews forth particularly from leftists spigots, in the form of yellow journalism, does not enamor me to journalists who take internal notes totally out of context.

Was it not legitimate to look and see if the terrorists approved of the elections outcome? They know the left is much more likely to cut and run. After all the terrorists do form a political entity (of sorts). What is so 'Ne-con' about look for proof of ones premises? The bombings in Spain prove rightly timed terrorism can acheive their desired ends, so what so bad about looking for signs they approve of influencing our political processes?


Quote: however, I realize you are entirely unpersuaded with evidence. Furthermore, I don’t have any vested interest in any of the television news networks.

Unpersuaded? By what duplicity.. :lol: evidence? yeah..right..distorted facts is more like it. Just my kind of yellow journalism.

[JeffS]

Yes...quite a video..

Keith Olberman wrote: Do you think that the document originates in the Fox offices or is it just to paranoid to think this is a re-write of White House press office or Rupublican National Committee talking points?

Then goes on to say regarding Michael Jackson:
Keith Olberman wrote: It's nice to be talking about somebody reputable after talking about Fox all that time.

First.....really Keith? You really want to compare Fox to someone perceived as a child molster? Really? I can tolerate his disdain for all things conservative and dislike for Fox but isn't comparing bias in the media to one of the most reviled acts on a human just a wee bit too far.......

Which brings me to the video...ugh. Keith Olberman is a card carrying conservative hater and the sheer volume of commentary on Youtube posted of Olberman screaming of all things he dislikes about it shows that he has no compunction of the imartiality he claims that Fox should have.

He then interviews a liberal with an agenda as his expert. Sure, this guest did do a documentary about Fox thus making him an expert of some sort but the filmmaker of documentaries is a junior Michael Moore (and has made an anti-WalMart doc just like Moore's 'Roger -n- Me') so you'd have to discount his bias and opinion simply because he has a point he wants to prove and will be selective in what he presents.

If the discussion were to have any validity, wouldn't they then want to maybe counterpoint-it with a 'Couldn't it be claimed that liberal bias exists such as with the Rather-gate memo?' and then go on to discounting that but at least show more balance than that which you are decrying. That wouldn't be the case.

Whether or not Fox has a bias is immaterial, If you think that this is not what is done at other news organizations, then you inhabit a Pollyanna-like world.

To the orignal quote above about 'paranoid to think'...Why actually stick to the core of the store when you can backhandedly make an assertion that liberals love to make and that would be that all Fox is would be another department of the adminstration. Sly but just another example of Olbermans ham-handed approach to what he considers journalism.

Can you claim that Fox is liberal? Yep. Why you want to shove that down conservatives throat whaen we agree with it anyway is a bit perplexing? However, you use Olberman and then absolute lack of evenhandedness on his part on a story where he should have at least tries such a things makes it very easily dismissable.

Dismissed.

[Trajan]

Revenant wrote: A biased news channel....never :lol:

Hrummph. The very idea...... (Leans back in recliner, blows smoke rings to ceiling)

[eynon]

Trajan wrote: Revenant wrote: A biased news channel....never :lol:

Hrummph. The very idea...... (Leans back in recliner, blows smoke rings to ceiling)

:lol: :lol:

we're a jaded bunch........guess cause we're paying attention..........

[pete]

None of the big news channels are liable. They are all government filtered into conditioning and dividing America.

[TNBiologist]

Violaxcore wrote: [quote=TNBiologist]All news organizations are biased, especially if you have different views than them. To me, MSNBC is biased as h*ll towards anti-americanism so I take what they report with a grain of salt just as I do any news organization.

Also, using the Huffington post to call Fox news biased is about like asking a muslim is Isreal should exist.

[quote=cap'n queasy]What Rather did was totally fabricate a story that had not a shred of truth to it. Fox had a memo sent to it's reporters to look out for evidence that would support a certain story they had planned, which is not doing something wrong as the story has truth to it to begin with.

As far as I am concerned CBS is far worse than Fox, the only reason they even admitted wrong doing is because they were busted red handed and all they did was fire some scapegoats. That does not make up for a history of yellow journalism.

NBC is also far worse than Fox.[/quote]

so you both agree that Fox News is biased[/quote]

All news agencies are biased. They are run by humans and humans decide what news is reported and from what angle. Humans by nature are biased towards one ideal or another. I think Fox is less biased than MSNBC or the Huffington Post but yeah they are biased. Anyone that takes any news agency as the truth needs a wake-up call. Watch a couple different news agnecies and take what both of them say with a grain of salt and make your own opinion of what the actually news is.