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[The Comrade]

Dookiestix wrote:
How does a newly elected U.S. representative equate to the recognition of a potential threat?


Glenn as a republican considers cut and run as dangerous. the congressman is an advocate for cut and run, and thus Glenn considers him a potential threat to security.

[Dookiestix]

The Comrade wrote: Dookiestix wrote:
How does a newly elected U.S. representative equate to the recognition of a potential threat?


Glenn as a republican considers cut and run as dangerous. the congressman is an advocate for cut and run, and thus Glenn considers him a potential threat to security.
Excuse me, but our invasion of Iraq has already increased our security threat. Perhaps you missed the C.I.A. report which confirms that.

I repeat; Glenn is an idiot. And your reasoning is bogus because he prefaced his question with "I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I've been to mosques. I really don't believe that Islam is a religion of evil." He was addressing the fears of Ellison being a Muslim, not so much whether he considers cut and run as dangerous.

[The Comrade]

Dookiestix wrote:
Excuse me, but our invasion of Iraq has already increased our security threat. Perhaps you missed the C.I.A. report which confirms that.

try and keep up boyo!

in ever once defended iraq. i answered your question through the point of view that Glenn most likely has. i never once asserted it as my personal opinion.

Dookiestix wrote: I repeat; Glenn is an idiot. And your reasoning is bogus because he prefaced his question with "I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I've been to mosques. I really don't believe that Islam is a religion of evil." He was addressing the fears of Ellison being a Muslim, not so much whether he considers cut and run as dangerous.

that's funny because his question was asked after cut and run was brought up. not after he mentioned islam.

[mr.snruB]

The Comrade wrote: Dookiestix wrote:
How does a newly elected U.S. representative equate to the recognition of a potential threat?


Glenn as a republican

No he's not. He claims he bipartisan

[The Comrade]

mr.snruB wrote:

No he's not. He claims he bipartisan

bipartisan is not a political party.

[Ameriman]

Dookiestix wrote: Ameriman wrote: Dookiestix wrote: Ameriman wrote: Dookiestix wrote: Ameriman wrote: I dig Glenn Beck. I think he explained his question in the interview and it's a question a lot of people are asking. To bury your head in the sand and not ask these questions is the product of political correctness which, in today's day and age can be deadly.

I am glad there are people out there like Beck that have the balls to stand up and ask the tough questions.
Yeah, asking a newly elected U.S. Representative if he's the enemy somehow equates to having the balls to ask the "tough" questions.

I'm glad Ellison went along and allowed Beck's inane comments. He must've known Glenn would be putting his foot squarely in his mouth.

I think we both know that you are blowing it out of proportion...

Quote: BECK: OK. No offense, and I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I've been to mosques. I really don't believe that Islam is a religion of evil. I -- you know, I think it's being hijacked, quite frankly.
And yet:

Quote:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608100003

BECK: Now, while everybody -- nobody really seems to be too concerned about the eight missing Egyptians, we are. And we'd like to do everything we can to find them. And I think our efforts are already paying off.

Quote: [begin video clip]

ANNOUNCER: The FBI wants to know if you've seen any of the following Egyptian students missing since July 29. El Sayed Ahmed Elsayed Ibrahim, age 20. Ibrahim may have shaved his mustache since this photo was taken.

Ahmed Mohamed Mohamed Abou El Ela, age 21. May also be going by the name Ahmed Mohamed Mohamed Mohamed Abou El Ela.

Moustafa Wagdy Moustafa El Gafary, age 18. El Gafary may also answer to the nickname Sparky.

Mohamed Ragab Mohamed Abd Alla, age 22. Abd Alla may or may not be accompanied by his camel.

Here are the rest: Mohamed Ibrahim Elsayed El Moghazy, Ahmed Refaat Saad El Moghazi El Laket, Ebrahim Mabrouk Moustafa Abdou, Mohamed Saleh Ahmed Maray, Eslam Ibrahim Mohamed El Dessouki, Alaa Abd El Fattah Ali El Bahnasawi, and Mohamed Ibrahim Fouaad El Shenawy.

If you know the whereabouts of these men, please call the FBI immediately. If you know how to correctly pronounce their names, well, call us.
Blown out of proportion? Jeez, this guy is a bigot and a jerk.

Recognizing a potential threat does not equate to being a bigot or a jerk.
How does a newly elected U.S. representative equate to the recognition of a potential threat?

I thought you were talking about the missing Egyptians...

[Ameriman]

Dookiestix wrote: The Comrade wrote: Dookiestix wrote:
How does a newly elected U.S. representative equate to the recognition of a potential threat?


Glenn as a republican considers cut and run as dangerous. the congressman is an advocate for cut and run, and thus Glenn considers him a potential threat to security.
Excuse me, but our invasion of Iraq has already increased our security threat. Perhaps you missed the C.I.A. report which confirms that.

I repeat; Glenn is an idiot. And your reasoning is bogus because he prefaced his question with "I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I've been to mosques. I really don't believe that Islam is a religion of evil." He was addressing the fears of Ellison being a Muslim, not so much whether he considers cut and run as dangerous.

You trying to convince people what Beck "really meant" instead of taking the actualy statement is disengenious at best.

[The American]

mr.snruB wrote: The Comrade wrote: Dookiestix wrote:
How does a newly elected U.S. representative equate to the recognition of a potential threat?


Glenn as a republican

No he's not. He claims he bipartisan

That's funny. He is as far right as I. Look up his principles and values.

He started in local radio, then went nation wide. He is still on talk radio today. He advertises his program as satire.

It isn't hard to see why people want to muzzle him.

He answers political correctness with bluntness. That angers those who get their feelings hurt easily. I wonder how many responded in this thread?

:wink:

Trig.

[sublime]

Eduffy80911 wrote: JDHURF wrote: http://mediamatters.org/items/200611150004

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/44387/

Glen Beck is a repulsive partisan loud mouth, this is beyond unacceptable.

I don't often come to the defense of CNN, but we have to allow people to speak their minds, however ignorant the words that come out may be. You don't make progress on racial prejudice by forbidding people to have certain thoughts. You make progress through communication and open conversation.

Hypersensitivity is not a virtue.


Hypersensitivity is also not a vice.

I've not watched Beck but can imagine that if CNN attempted to have someone on who was not a Liberal certainly they would not pick an articulate and very intelligent someone.........a Newt Gingrich or instance.

But on the other hand they do have some other Lefties............so maybe this provides some balance................loonies on each end of the teeter-totter.

[callous]

there is five pages in a thread about glen beck?

mygod.

[thintheherd]

Yeah, five pages... We're all still waiting for Dookie to prove his assertion that GBeck is a bigot and racist.

Easy to say, hard to prove.

Hate is an ugly emotion.

[Protostar]

Why do people pay such attention to what idiots like this guy say? I've never seen this guys show, and the only reason I know of his existence is because of a commercial advertising his show on the radio. I personally thought his comment was retarded and tasteless. What was the point of it? Just because he's a Muslim he is supposed to have connections to "the enemy"? WTF?

[The Comrade]

Protostar wrote: Why do people pay such attention to what idiots like this guy say? I've never seen this guys show, and the only reason I know of his existence is because of a commercial advertising his show on the radio. I personally thought his comment was retarded and tasteless. What was the point of it? Just because he's a Muslim he is supposed to have connections to "the enemy"? WTF?

the question was because he is a democrat who advocates "cut and run" and glenn's question was based on that particular point of foreign policy.

[SonikBaby]

Glann Beck is an idiot.. Everytime I hear is annoying voice come out of the TV I change the channel.

[Kilo Tango]

I never even heard of Glen Beck before this thread.

People watch too much tv.

[Somebloke]

Ameriman wrote: Somebloke wrote: Ameriman wrote: Dookiestix wrote: Ameriman wrote: I dig Glenn Beck. I think he explained his question in the interview and it's a question a lot of people are asking. To bury your head in the sand and not ask these questions is the product of political correctness which, in today's day and age can be deadly.

I am glad there are people out there like Beck that have the balls to stand up and ask the tough questions.
Yeah, asking a newly elected U.S. Representative if he's the enemy somehow equates to having the balls to ask the "tough" questions.

I'm glad Ellison went along and allowed Beck's inane comments. He must've known Glenn would be putting his foot squarely in his mouth.

I think we both know that you are blowing it out of proportion...

BECK: OK. No offense, and I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I've been to mosques. I really don't believe that Islam is a religion of evil. I -- you know, I think it's being hijacked, quite frankly.

With that being said, you are a Democrat. You are saying, "Let's cut and run." And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, "Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies."

And I know you're not. I'm not accusing you of being an enemy, but that's the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way.

ELLISON: Well, let me tell you, the people of the Fifth Congressional District know that I have a deep love and affection for my country. There's no one who is more patriotic than I am. And so, you know, I don't need to -- need to prove my patriotic stripes.

BECK: I understand that. And I'm not asking you to. I'm wondering if you see that. You come from a district that is heavily immigrant with Somalians. And I think it's wonderful, honestly, I think it is really a good sign that you are a -- you could be an icon to show Europe, this is the way you integrate into a country. I think the Somalians coming out and voting is a very good thing. With that --

ELLISON: I'd agree with you.

He can be as polite about it as he wants; he's still asking the question for the wrong reasons.

He isn't being polite. He was ensuring he wasn't misunderstood...apparently he did a poor job of that...

it is at it's core a silly and largely meaningless question. Are you a traitor? Right up there with 'you aren't satan are you?"

Again, I challenge you to come up with any real response other than, "no".

The fact is, he asked this question to put across the idea that muslims and democrats are inherently untrustworthy. This is the sort of mob-rule rot that has sadly become more and more prevalent in conservative discussions since the Bush admin took power.

[Nathyn]

JDHURF wrote: http://mediamatters.org/items/200611150004

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/44387/

Glen Beck is a repulsive partisan loud mouth, this is beyond unacceptable.
I think the dispute here is sort of trite. This is another one of mediamatters's articles which I don't understand the reason for its existence. It isn't bias or particularly shocking.

However, I agree with your description of Glen Beck. Just hearing his voice gives me a headache. He reminds me of the "Voice of London" (aka Lewis Prothero) from the movie V for Vendetta.

[Somebloke]

Nathyn wrote: JDHURF wrote: http://mediamatters.org/items/200611150004

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/44387/

Glen Beck is a repulsive partisan loud mouth, this is beyond unacceptable.
I think the dispute here is sort of trite. This is another one of mediamatters's articles which I don't understand the reason for its existence. It isn't bias or particularly shocking.

However, I agree with your description of Glen Beck. Just hearing his voice gives me a headache. He reminds me of the "Voice of London" (aka Lewis Prothero) from the movie V for Vendetta.
You should check out Alan Jones or Andrew Bolt in Australia. Very much of the same bent (literally in Jone's case).

[pete]

What everyone fails to recognize is that the Glenn Beck show is staged and just a way of installing fear into American's during Bush's age of False Flag Terrorism. Propaganda, Propaganda , & more Propaganda. :lol:

[Somebloke]

pete wrote: What everyone fails to recognize is that the Glenn Beck show is staged and just a way of installing fear into American's during Bush's age of False Flag Terrorism. Propaganda, Propaganda , & more Propaganda. :lol:
There is a more frightening reason.

He was hired because this is what people want to hear- petty minded viciousness- and Fox is just responding to market demands.

That is the more frightening thought, yes?