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Richard Owl Mirror · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9002

It looks like that might be a possibility due to "sour-grapes" Lieberman.

Rumor has it that he has threatened to switch to being a registered Republican if he is not given a major chairmanship position.
Having been reelected (by a majority of Repub votes) if he were to switch parties, that would mean a 50/50 split leaving the decision of which Party becomes Majority to none other than Dick Cheney.

How likely do you think this rumor is to be true?
Are there any Republicans elected to the next Senate which might meet such a proposition with a switch of their own loyalties in an effort to counter act such a move ?

Lieberman Party Switch?
Quote: Jason Smith asks, “[W]ouldn’t it be ironic, if the man Democrats threw to the wolves, Joe Lieberman, decided the best payback to his disloyal colleagues was to pull a Jeffords?"

Yes. Yes it would.

It would also be, as it was in Jeffords’ case, quite despicable.

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

Dems already gave him the chair to some committee, can't remember which one at the moment. What more does he want?

Zadoc · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 199 Location: Phoenix, AZ

It's a completely false rumor.

Richard Owl Mirror · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9002

ontheyslay wrote: Dems already gave him the chair to some committee, can't remember at the moment. What more does he want?

Actually, even though he has gotten what he was promised he can hold this threat over the Democrats head for the next two years. He just might continue using it as a bargaining wedge on votes being cast his way.

ontheyslay · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Michigan

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: ontheyslay wrote: Dems already gave him the chair to some committee, can't remember at the moment. What more does he want?

Actually, even though he has gotten what he was promised he can hold this threat over the Democrats head for the next two years. He just might continue using it as a bargaining wedge on votes being cast his way.

I guess it's coming back to bite the dems in the ass.

Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

It will be more beneficial for the GOP to give up the majority in a Senate so closely divided. Lott will probably beat Alexander for the Whip and he has a black belt in Senate procedures. :lol:

Zadoc · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 199 Location: Phoenix, AZ

If Lieberman party switches, he will be impeached so fast that his head will spin, and Senator Lamont will take his seat... z(Or someone will assassinate his ass.)

Richard Owl Mirror · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9002

Zadoc wrote: It's a completely false rumor.

So you trust Joe Leiberman?

Actually, I'd like to see him make the switch as long as the other Independant would be willing to register as a Democrat and nullify the action.

As it stands now, he could have a hissy fit over some Bill or vote and switch at any time, or at least threaten too.

Zadoc · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 199 Location: Phoenix, AZ

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Zadoc wrote: It's a completely false rumor.

So you trust Joe Leiberman?

Actually, I'd like to see him make the switch as long as the other Independant would be willing to register as a Democrat and nullify the action.

As it stands now, he could have a hissy fit over some Bill or vote and switch at any time, or at least threaten too.

The other independant is cacusing with the Democrats as well. There are 48 Democrats plus the two independants, and that's what gives them the majority in the senate.

Lieberman won't party switch because the House will impeach him.

flamboyant · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 1881

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Zadoc wrote: It's a completely false rumor.

So you trust Joe Leiberman?

Actually, I'd like to see him make the switch as long as the other Independant would be willing to register as a Democrat and nullify the action.

As it stands now, he could have a hissy fit over some Bill or vote and switch at any time, or at least threaten too.

If he makes the switch, he may as well cancel any plans to run for re-election in Conneticut.

Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

Zadoc wrote: If Lieberman party switches, he will be impeached so fast that his head will spin, and Senator Lamont will take his seat... z(Or someone will assassinate his ass.)

He is an Independent, and as such, can choose which side to Caucus with. As an Independent, he can also switch parties at his choosing, like that guy did from Vermont. Republicans in Connecticut got him there after Democratic Party leadership turned on him. He was a duty to all of his constituents. He was the VP candidate in 2000 for the DNC. Where is the love? 8:)

Mr. Sunshine · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 1324

Zadoc wrote: Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Zadoc wrote: It's a completely false rumor.

So you trust Joe Leiberman?

Actually, I'd like to see him make the switch as long as the other Independant would be willing to register as a Democrat and nullify the action.

As it stands now, he could have a hissy fit over some Bill or vote and switch at any time, or at least threaten too.

The other independant is cacusing with the Democrats as well. There are 48 Democrats plus the two independants, and that's what gives them the majority in the senate.

Lieberman won't party switch because the House will impeach him.

They don't have the votes to Impeach him in the House. 8:)

Zadoc · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 199 Location: Phoenix, AZ

Mr. Sunshine wrote: Zadoc wrote: Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Zadoc wrote: It's a completely false rumor.

So you trust Joe Leiberman?

Actually, I'd like to see him make the switch as long as the other Independant would be willing to register as a Democrat and nullify the action.

As it stands now, he could have a hissy fit over some Bill or vote and switch at any time, or at least threaten too.

The other independant is cacusing with the Democrats as well. There are 48 Democrats plus the two independants, and that's what gives them the majority in the senate.

Lieberman won't party switch because the House will impeach him.

They don't have the votes to Impeach him in the House. 8:)

Yes they do. <insert moronic looking graphic here>

flamboyant · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 1881

I don't remember Republicans even suggesting such a thing when Jeffords jumped ship, why are you so sure it would be an automatic that he'd get impeached?

Violaxcore · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 1294 Location: Le Emerald City

flamboyant wrote: Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Zadoc wrote: It's a completely false rumor.

So you trust Joe Leiberman?

Actually, I'd like to see him make the switch as long as the other Independant would be willing to register as a Democrat and nullify the action.

As it stands now, he could have a hissy fit over some Bill or vote and switch at any time, or at least threaten too.

If he makes the switch, he may as well cancel any plans to run for re-election in Conneticut. exactly. The Senate Dems are being good to lieberman anyway. He's getting a Chairmanship. Lieberman ran as an independent "Democrat" not a republican. if he was willing to go through this election as an independent, he probably wants to come back in another 6 years.

Charlie Man · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 4643

I do trust joe lieberman.

Before Lamont won the primary the Democratic party supported him. Afterwards, what were they to do, support lieberman AGAINST the will of the people? That would have gone over really well. Supporting the winner of the primary was what they had to do, and I trust that everyone who understands politics a bit understands that. Including Joe Lieberman. Doesn't mean they hate him, or vice versa, and I have little doubt that he will be re-assimilated into the party power structure.

Snoop · Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 6722

Giving Leiberman a few plum seats or a chair is actually a damn good idea. It sends a message to the senate republicans that the Dems are willing to work with them to achieve a moderate approach.

As for the rumor that he will go the gop, thats nothing more then an Ann Coulter wet dream which has no basis in reality

GTTofAK · Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 5968 Location: Alaska

He doesnt have to switch to the GOP just cacus with us.

Oh and what acts of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors would he be impeached for.

Richard Owl Mirror · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9002

GTTofAK wrote: He doesnt have to switch to the GOP just caucus with us.

Oh and what acts of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors would he be impeached for.

Actually, if he did switch, giving Republicans the majority they would be able to set the agenda rather than the Democrats. That's a huge benefit because then the Republicans could continue to rubber-stamp the Presidents agenda and never have to conduct oversight. They also would be in control of any investigation subcommittees, which in effect would be non-existant as in previous Congress'.

Kind of like that "Stay the Course" they are so fond of :lol: