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ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

Is it an acceptable practice to out someone? Like those who are hypocritical political opponents.

Quote: Bill Maher Fails to Name Gay Republicans on Friday Show

In an interview with Larry King on Larry King Live on Wednesday, political pundit Bill Maher outed Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman and promised that he would name more names of gay Republicans on his Friday night show. However, Maher did not do so, and failed to to even mention his appearance on Larry King or his vow to out more Republican leaders.

In the East Coast airing of Larry King Live on Wednesday, Maher claimed that some major Republican politicians were living in the closet, and after prompting from Larry King, named Republican National Commitee chairman Ken Mehlman as one of them - saying that he wouldn't be the first to suggest Mehlman was of the man-loving persuasion. King seemed shocked at the very thought, to which Bill Maher replied "Maybe you don’t go to the same bathhouse I do, Larry."

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http://www.247gay.com/article.cfm?section=66&id=11516

Melchior · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 9114 Location: Palm Beach

I'm confused, how would he know anyway?

Outing someone is not cool, privacy is a thing to be valued highly.

I don't believe in that "you should be open about who you are" bullcrap. My business is my business, the world doesn't need to know.

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

Melchior wrote: I'm confused, how would he know anyway?

Outing someone is not cool, privacy is a thing to be valued highly.

I don't believe in that "you should be open about who you are" bullcrap. My business is my business, the world doesn't need to know.

Well, the idea is if you are part of the religious right and you are gay, then you are a hypocrite and you are going to outed for your hypocrisy. I am not sure to be honest if this is an acceptable practice, but then again, getting involved in politics is a dirty business and people will dig up your private life anyhow.

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 7633 Location: Milwaukee, WI

No one likes a tattle-tale...

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 20234 Location: Minnesota

No, it is not acceptable. If the person does not wish to disclose it then leave it at that. No one needs to hear tales of any of their sexual escapades, nor is it very nice to be talking behinds someone back like that. And so now I've lost even more respect for Mr. Maher.

Mehlman has stepped down, and announced it before Maher's accusations, btw.

Snake · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 20016 Location: e-Thuggin

I never had respect for Maher, but I just know that, one day, his uppin's will come. :twisted:

agentkgb · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: US

No, outing's not right. It's their own business if they don't want to be open about it that's up to them.

Clarino · Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 3173 Location: Oop North

People shouldn't hide their sexuality, but people also shouldn't reveal the sexuality of those that do hide it.

I must confree to being highly amused at the accidental outing of Peter Mandelson, however. Everyone knew, but no-one was supposed to talk about it. :lol:

It's probably due to the fact that I can't stand him as a person.

Prole · Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Edinburgh

Clarino wrote: People shouldn't hide their sexuality, but people also shouldn't reveal the sexuality of those that do hide it.
When people do not have any reason to hide their sexuality, they will not. However, as long as bigotry exists towards people on the basis of their sexuality (or anything else, for that matter), they will continue to.

Babylon_Horuv · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1715

Prole wrote: Clarino wrote: People shouldn't hide their sexuality, but people also shouldn't reveal the sexuality of those that do hide it.
When people do not have any reason to hide their sexuality, they will not. However, as long as bigotry exists towards people on the basis of their sexuality (or anything else, for that matter), they will continue to.

And is it wrong to reveal the abberant sexuality of bigots?

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 7633 Location: Milwaukee, WI

Babylon_Horuv wrote: Prole wrote: Clarino wrote: People shouldn't hide their sexuality, but people also shouldn't reveal the sexuality of those that do hide it.
When people do not have any reason to hide their sexuality, they will not. However, as long as bigotry exists towards people on the basis of their sexuality (or anything else, for that matter), they will continue to.

And is it wrong to reveal the abberant sexuality of bigots?

Bigots are people too.

Babylon_Horuv · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1715

LostSoul3412 wrote: Babylon_Horuv wrote: Prole wrote: Clarino wrote: People shouldn't hide their sexuality, but people also shouldn't reveal the sexuality of those that do hide it.
When people do not have any reason to hide their sexuality, they will not. However, as long as bigotry exists towards people on the basis of their sexuality (or anything else, for that matter), they will continue to.

And is it wrong to reveal the abberant sexuality of bigots?

Bigots are people too.

so are murderers, your point?

00timh · Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 12728 Location: upstate NY

Most homosexuals preach that what goes on in the bedroom is nobody's business. They should live by their words. If their privacy is important to them then they should give the same respect to others.

TheGirlNextDoor · Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 22608

Whatever happened to MYOB?

Mind Your Own Business?

Seems Mr. Maher isn't doing that. He needs to start.

Tracker · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:46 am Post subject:

In light of hateful religionists nonstop perversity for sniffin' crotches like DOGS in order to put CONDITIONS on love, THRUST crotches into the public's faces, and FORCE government officials and educators to perversley sniff crotches like DOGS before DENYING EQUALITY in so-called 'positive-goodness' --

-- merely so they can FOMENT HATE and PROFIT from atop the rubble, misery and grief, while claiming, "YOU are WORSE than US!" -- as usual, --

... I'd have to say that 'outting' somebody is ACCOMPLISHING the goals of the hateful religionists, as they drool for the OPPORTUNITY to perversley SNIFF crotches like DOGS, as usual, merely to HATE and CENSOR and DENY EQUALITY, then turn around and claim YOU are 'indecent,' in their twisted-values of so-called 'positive-goodness.'

Quickest way to get UNEMPLOYED and CAST-OUT and ridiculed, and HARRASSED your property molested/vandalized, and even your person MURDERED is to be 'outted' --

-- which accomplishes the GOALS of the perverted hateful religionist people HELLbent on doggy-style crotch-sniffin' -- concocting HELL, as usual -- because then they can change their ALWAYS_POINTING_FINGERS_OF_Shame/Blame and say, "See! YOU are WORSE than US!" -- in so-called 'positive-goodness.'

f**k, it's GROSS!

HELL s*cks!

Tracker · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:52 am Post subject:

Get 'outted' as THIS:

gay /geɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[gey] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -er, -est, noun, adverb
–adjective
1. having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.

and get turned into THIS:

mis‧er‧y /ˈmɪzəri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[miz-uh-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -er‧ies.
1. wretchedness of condition or circumstances.
2. distress or suffering caused by need, privation, or poverty.
3. great mental or emotional distress; extreme unhappiness.

Les Miserable

Merely so the hateful religionists can say, "See! YOU are WORSE than US!" in so-called 'positive-goodness.'

How convenient! :roll:

f**k! It's sooooooooooooooooo GROSS!

I should change the definition of 'f**k' now. f***ing is a good thing. But I've been BRAINWASHED into saying bad things are 'f****d-up.' I SHOULD SAY, "Churched-up."

Tracker · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:54 am Post subject:

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

00timh wrote: Most homosexuals preach that what goes on in the bedroom is nobody's business. They should live by their words. If their privacy is important to them then they should give the same respect to others.

Obviously, what is being preached and the actual goals sought after diverge greatly.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8242

Outing others is never, for any reason, an acceptable practice. People who aren't open about their sexuality have kept it quiet for a reason. And it is no one else's place to determine that their reason is invalid.

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 20234 Location: Minnesota

00timh wrote: Most homosexuals preach that what goes on in the bedroom is nobody's business. They should live by their words. If their privacy is important to them then they should give the same respect to others.

I don't think Mr. Maher is a homosexual, and, if he is it is of no concern to me, but he is a large privacy advocate, and yes, he should really lead by example. It was rather poor taste.

CNN has edited the rebroadcasts of the interview to remove his refrence about it. While the damage has been done at least they do that -- it is an unstantiated claim meant to defame someone (regardless of whether or not being gay should defame someone, Maher's intent was to defame someone for being gay -- if he meant no harm by it he wouldn't have done it).