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Melchior



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: I want an honest answer  

This can turn into a bisexuality debate (something both heterosexists and gay rights enthusiasts have a problem with).

But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).

I don't expect anyone to admit the truth. Heterosexuals don't want to compromise their status, and homosexuals don't want their orientation to appear the least bit non-permanent. But I can ask, and hopefully the anonymity of the Internet will encourage truthful responses.

I still don't believe anyone can be 100% one way or the other, it's unfathomable and inconsistent with every other predilection (from politics to favorite foods).
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject:  

This probably isn't the answer you're looking for, but I can honestly say that no, I have never been attracted to another man.
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MG1962



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).


I cant admit to smitten, but a couple of times I have seen guys. Mostly athletes and stuff and thought. How hot does he look.

I'm not sure if it was sexual or simply envy lol
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Melchior



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject:  

LostSoul3412 wrote: This probably isn't the answer you're looking for, but I can honestly say that no, I have never been attracted to another man.

Really, no male has ever been the cause for a double-take?

MG1962 wrote: Quote: But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).


I cant admit to smitten, but a couple of times I have seen guys. Mostly athletes and stuff and thought. How hot does he look.

I'm not sure if it was sexual or simply envy lol

I would say envy is close to admiration, but not sexual attraction (still, a form of attraction nonetheless).

So, this shows that you know what would constitute as "hot" in a guys features, not just guesswork for what might be appealing to women or gay men, but you've found some guys on occasion to be visually attractive in your opinion, even though you're still straight.

Not exactly a breakthrough, anyway can and will tell the difference between the ugly and the comely, regardless of gender or orientation. But it's a social taboo for a man to compliment another man's attractiveness.
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ToonArmyIsComing



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Re: I want an honest answer  

Melchior wrote: This can turn into a bisexuality debate (something both heterosexists and gay rights enthusiasts have a problem with).

But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).

I don't expect anyone to admit the truth. Heterosexuals don't want to compromise their status, and homosexuals don't want their orientation to appear the least bit non-permanent. But I can ask, and hopefully the anonymity of the Internet will encourage truthful responses.

I still don't believe anyone can be 100% one way or the other, it's unfathomable and inconsistent with every other predilection (from politics to favorite foods).

I have been attracted to the members of the opposite sex before, but these attractions have never been sexual attractions. It has been more like "I like you a lot and I can talk to you forever" ... funnily, in acting like a straight person, I have often ended up giving them a wrong signal, which has lead to uncomfortable situations where I basically have to ignore them to indirectly tell them that "I don't like you in that way" ...
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Enoch



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: I want an honest answer  

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: Melchior wrote: This can turn into a bisexuality debate (something both heterosexists and gay rights enthusiasts have a problem with).

But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).

I don't expect anyone to admit the truth. Heterosexuals don't want to compromise their status, and homosexuals don't want their orientation to appear the least bit non-permanent. But I can ask, and hopefully the anonymity of the Internet will encourage truthful responses.

I still don't believe anyone can be 100% one way or the other, it's unfathomable and inconsistent with every other predilection (from politics to favorite foods).

I have been attracted to the members of the opposite sex before, but these attractions have never been sexual attractions. It has been more like "I like you a lot and I can talk to you forever" ... funnily, in acting like a straight person, I have often ended up giving them a wrong signal, which has lead to uncomfortable situations where I basically have to ignore them to indirectly tell them that "I don't like you in that way" ...

Same here. But, on occasion, I have had to have the uncomfortable, "look, your a sweet girl but I'm gay" conversation.
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject:  

Melchior wrote: LostSoul3412 wrote: This probably isn't the answer you're looking for, but I can honestly say that no, I have never been attracted to another man.

Really, no male has ever been the cause for a double-take?

Honestly, no.

I can admit it when another man looks attractive, but I've never been emotionally, or physically, attracted to another man.
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: I want an honest answer  

Enoch wrote: ToonArmyIsComing wrote: Melchior wrote: This can turn into a bisexuality debate (something both heterosexists and gay rights enthusiasts have a problem with).

But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).

I don't expect anyone to admit the truth. Heterosexuals don't want to compromise their status, and homosexuals don't want their orientation to appear the least bit non-permanent. But I can ask, and hopefully the anonymity of the Internet will encourage truthful responses.

I still don't believe anyone can be 100% one way or the other, it's unfathomable and inconsistent with every other predilection (from politics to favorite foods).

I have been attracted to the members of the opposite sex before, but these attractions have never been sexual attractions. It has been more like "I like you a lot and I can talk to you forever" ... funnily, in acting like a straight person, I have often ended up giving them a wrong signal, which has lead to uncomfortable situations where I basically have to ignore them to indirectly tell them that "I don't like you in that way" ...

Same here. But, on occasion, I have had to have the uncomfortable, "look, your a sweet girl but I'm gay" conversation.

You think that's awkward? Try talking with a girl and having her think you're gay when you're not... :?
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The Comrade



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject:  

i'm emotionally and physically attracted to females.


i would consider having sex with a guy, but it wouldn't go any further then that.
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Enoch



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: I want an honest answer  

LostSoul3412 wrote: Enoch wrote: ToonArmyIsComing wrote: Melchior wrote: This can turn into a bisexuality debate (something both heterosexists and gay rights enthusiasts have a problem with).

But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).

I don't expect anyone to admit the truth. Heterosexuals don't want to compromise their status, and homosexuals don't want their orientation to appear the least bit non-permanent. But I can ask, and hopefully the anonymity of the Internet will encourage truthful responses.

I still don't believe anyone can be 100% one way or the other, it's unfathomable and inconsistent with every other predilection (from politics to favorite foods).

I have been attracted to the members of the opposite sex before, but these attractions have never been sexual attractions. It has been more like "I like you a lot and I can talk to you forever" ... funnily, in acting like a straight person, I have often ended up giving them a wrong signal, which has lead to uncomfortable situations where I basically have to ignore them to indirectly tell them that "I don't like you in that way" ...

Same here. But, on occasion, I have had to have the uncomfortable, "look, your a sweet girl but I'm gay" conversation.

You think that's awkward? Try talking with a girl and having her think you're gay when you're not... :? They are both awkward situations.
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ToonArmyIsComing



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject:  

LostSoul3412 wrote: You think that's awkward? Try talking with a girl and having her think you're gay when you're not... :?

LMAO!!! :lol: What did you do to make them think you are gay? Are you flamboyant?

The Comrade wrote: i would consider having sex with a guy, but it wouldn't go any further then that.

Wow, what an honest man!!! I have NEVER seen a straight guy admitting OPENLY that they would consider a no-strings attached sex with another guy!!! :shock:

Enoch wrote: Same here. But, on occasion, I have had to have the uncomfortable, "look, your a sweet girl but I'm gay" conversation.

Wow, I admire the fact that you are so comfortable saying that to someone just like that. That would make me feel so uncomfortable...
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject:  

If I were gay...
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The Comrade



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject:  

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: Wow, what an honest man!!! I have NEVER seen a straight guy admitting OPENLY that they would consider a no-strings attached sex with another guy!!! :shock:


i don't see what the big deal would be. it's just another form of sexual desire and fufillment.

maybe alot of straight guys just aren't into it?
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ToonArmyIsComing



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject:  

LostSoul3412 wrote: If I were gay...

This reminds me ... I used to live in a university residence with these 2 guys [macho football playing types]. They were really into girls and stuff, etc if you know what I mean, but I swear once when they were drunk, I think they had sex together. :lol:

The Comrade wrote: i don't see what the big deal would be. it's just another form of sexual desire and fufillment.

maybe alot of straight guys just aren't into it?

I wouldn't say they are not into it. I think a lot of straight guys would be willing to try it if there wasn't so much stigma attached to it.

It's just that I have never seen someone admit to it! :wink:
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The Comrade



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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject:  

LostSoul3412 wrote: If I were gay...

steven lynch is quite possibly one of the funniest comedians ever.
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Melchior



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject:  

The Comrade wrote: ToonArmyIsComing wrote: Wow, what an honest man!!! I have NEVER seen a straight guy admitting OPENLY that they would consider a no-strings attached sex with another guy!!! :shock:


i don't see what the big deal would be. it's just another form of sexual desire and fufillment.

maybe alot of straight guys just aren't into it?

That would be experimenting.

For a women people wouldn't be so shocked, they would call it experimenting.
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject:  

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: LostSoul3412 wrote: You think that's awkward? Try talking with a girl and having her think you're gay when you're not... :?

LMAO!!! :lol: What did you do to make them think you are gay? Are you flamboyant?

No, it was on a cruise and I was hanging out with a couple of my friends in the "teen club" and we were talking with these girls. I had a girlfriend at the time, so I wasn't going to dance or whatever with anyone (conscience wouldn't let me... don't judge me). So while the two other guys I was with were trying to "pick up girls", I was just hanging out at the "bar" talking with people. I'm talking with this girl, and she sees my two friends hitting on girls, but I suppose she noticed that I wasn't hitting on her, so suddenly she says "Wait, you're gay, right?" I was thinking "WTF!?!>?", but I just said "Uh... no, I have a girlfriend back home." She just replied, "Oh..." and walked away.

...

We never went back there for the whole cruise.
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Protostar



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: I want an honest answer  

Melchior wrote: This can turn into a bisexuality debate (something both heterosexists and gay rights enthusiasts have a problem with).

But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).

I don't expect anyone to admit the truth. Heterosexuals don't want to compromise their status, and homosexuals don't want their orientation to appear the least bit non-permanent. But I can ask, and hopefully the anonymity of the Internet will encourage truthful responses.

I still don't believe anyone can be 100% one way or the other, it's unfathomable and inconsistent with every other predilection (from politics to favorite foods).

I'll admit the truth Melchior. I really don't know what you mean by smitten though. Do you mean in love or just sexually attracted to? I've never been in love with anyone, so there goes the former. I've been sexually attracted to alot of females. I've been sexually attracted to a few guys as well, but never really said anything about it for fear of the response from them.
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ToonArmyIsComing



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject:  

LostSoul3412 wrote: No, it was on a cruise and I was hanging out with a couple of my friends in the "teen club" and we were talking with these girls. I had a girlfriend at the time, so I wasn't going to dance or whatever with anyone (conscience wouldn't let me... don't judge me). So while the two other guys I was with were trying to "pick up girls", I was just hanging out at the "bar" talking with people. I'm talking with this girl, and she sees my two friends hitting on girls, but I suppose she noticed that I wasn't hitting on her, so suddenly she says "Wait, you're gay, right?" I was thinking "WTF!?!>?", but I just said "Uh... no, I have a girlfriend back home." She just replied, "Oh..." and walked away.

...

We never went back there for the whole cruise.

lol :lol: I bet she really thought you were really gay and thought you were just lying to cover it up with the way she was walking away and her "oh ..."!!!

Protostar wrote: I'll admit the truth Melchior. I really don't know what you mean by smitten though. Do you mean in love or just sexually attracted to? I've never been in love with anyone, so there goes the former. I've been sexually attracted to alot of females. I've been sexually attracted to a few guys as well, but never really said anything about it for fear of the response from them.

That is something really interesting with the straight guys. I really believe there have been 3 or 4 friends of mine that have had sexual thoughts about me [they don't know I am not straight]. Maybe I was reading them wrong, but there are certain subtle signals they give that you just know they are thinking dirty!!!
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TheGirlNextDoor



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: I want an honest answer  

Melchior wrote: This can turn into a bisexuality debate (something both heterosexists and gay rights enthusiasts have a problem with).

But I want to know from you, has there ever been an instance, at least once in your life, in which you found yourself genuinely smitten by someone of the same/opposite sex.?(some of the same-sex if you identify as heterosexual, and vice-versa).

I don't expect anyone to admit the truth. Heterosexuals don't want to compromise their status, and homosexuals don't want their orientation to appear the least bit non-permanent. But I can ask, and hopefully the anonymity of the Internet will encourage truthful responses.

I still don't believe anyone can be 100% one way or the other, it's unfathomable and inconsistent with every other predilection (from politics to favorite foods).

Well yes.

Why don't you expect people to admit the truth?? I'm a heterosexual woman and can admit that I've been attracted to the same sex before and have had some instances of experimentation. However, those moments passed without much impression and I'm attracted to men and therefore straight.

Is that a problem?
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