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micfranklin · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 8458 Location: Maryland

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/071106_disciplined_911.html

Quote: A fifth grader named 'Mark' reported to Alex Jones' Infowars TV show by phone that he had been sent home with a disciplinary report for visiting 9/11 Truth websites such as Infowars.com.

The 10 year-old Steiner Ranch Elementary student-- in Leander I.S.D. near Austin, Texas-- says that he was browsing such sites during his Computer Lab class period when a fellow student informed on him-- as though he were doing something wrong.

Well, first of all, this kid is only 10 years old and he probably wouldn't have been able to comprehend any of what he was looking for anyway. But then, it is school and all.

Opinions anyone?

wyldejackyl · Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 6584 Location: Chicago, IL

I think we're all hosed if this kind of thing keeps happening. Another student told on him? For what?! It's not like he was viewing Twin Hooters Truth or something. Even then..it's not the end of the world.

I don't see why any school should ever censor anything like that. Obviously, if the government-sponsored school is preventing the dissemination of information..they have something to hide, or another agenda. I think more schools should promote distrust of the government. Doesn't mean you hate government, hate the country, or aren't patriotic..it's just that you should be taught your rights and responsibilities from an early age..instead of being afraid of Big Brother at every turn.

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

micfranklin wrote: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/071106_disciplined_911.html

Quote: A fifth grader named 'Mark' reported to Alex Jones' Infowars TV show by phone that he had been sent home with a disciplinary report for visiting 9/11 Truth websites such as Infowars.com.

The 10 year-old Steiner Ranch Elementary student-- in Leander I.S.D. near Austin, Texas-- says that he was browsing such sites during his Computer Lab class period when a fellow student informed on him-- as though he were doing something wrong.

Well, first of all, this kid is only 10 years old and he probably wouldn't have been able to comprehend any of what he was looking for anyway. But then, it is school and all.

Opinions anyone?

I live near Leander and I have never heard anything about this. I do know you can't listen to believe anything Alex Jones says.

micfranklin · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 8458 Location: Maryland

This is public education in elementary school nowadays, huh? To add on to the 4th grader suspended for not finishing an exam.

Angelicus · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 4003

Just a question that the article doesn't answer.

Was the kid supposed to be doing something else during computer lab, like oh I don't know, practicing typing or something?

If he was, then yes he was doing something wrong.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6679 Location: Ohio

"Sent home with a disciplinary report"?

Schools don't do that s**t just for browsing the internet in computer lab.

micfranklin · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 8458 Location: Maryland

Demonic Spoon wrote: "Sent home with a disciplinary report"?

Schools don't do that s**t just for browsing the internet in computer lab.

In our days in elementary school, they didn't. Times have changed, sadly, and bastardized as well.

agentkgb · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: US

Angelicus wrote: Just a question that the article doesn't answer.

Was the kid supposed to be doing something else during computer lab, like oh I don't know, practicing typing or something?

If he was, then yes he was doing something wrong.
Good question. If the concern was just that he should have been researching dinosaurs and he was spending school time on the website, then that's one thing. The school and the principal shouldn't have been concerned about what websites he was spending this time on though unless it was about sex or drugs or the like, just that it didn't have to do with whatever he should have been doing.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14019 Location: Florida

micfranklin wrote: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/071106_disciplined_911.html

Quote: A fifth grader named 'Mark' reported to Alex Jones' Infowars TV show by phone that he had been sent home with a disciplinary report for visiting 9/11 Truth websites such as Infowars.com.

The 10 year-old Steiner Ranch Elementary student-- in Leander I.S.D. near Austin, Texas-- says that he was browsing such sites during his Computer Lab class period when a fellow student informed on him-- as though he were doing something wrong.

Well, first of all, this kid is only 10 years old and he probably wouldn't have been able to comprehend any of what he was looking for anyway. But then, it is school and all.

Opinions anyone?

Well, having read the link, and over the disciplinary referral, the boy got in trouble for surfing the internet "during a direct instruction class." Meaning that instead of listening to the teacher, and following what she was doing, he was surfing "alternative theory" websites. He didn't get in trouble for surfing infowars specifically ,but for surfing during instruction. Also, it read like this wasn't the first time this kid was in trouble. It read like he was a chronic behavior problem.

micfranklin · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 8458 Location: Maryland

perdidochas wrote: micfranklin wrote: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/071106_disciplined_911.html

Quote: A fifth grader named 'Mark' reported to Alex Jones' Infowars TV show by phone that he had been sent home with a disciplinary report for visiting 9/11 Truth websites such as Infowars.com.

The 10 year-old Steiner Ranch Elementary student-- in Leander I.S.D. near Austin, Texas-- says that he was browsing such sites during his Computer Lab class period when a fellow student informed on him-- as though he were doing something wrong.

Well, first of all, this kid is only 10 years old and he probably wouldn't have been able to comprehend any of what he was looking for anyway. But then, it is school and all.

Opinions anyone?

Well, having read the link, and over the disciplinary referral, the boy got in trouble for surfing the internet "during a direct instruction class." Meaning that instead of listening to the teacher, and following what she was doing, he was surfing "alternative theory" websites. He didn't get in trouble for surfing infowars specifically ,but for surfing during instruction. Also, it read like this wasn't the first time this kid was in trouble. It read like he was a chronic behavior problem.

Well, its still a shame that a 5th grader got in trouble for something like this.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14019 Location: Florida

micfranklin wrote: perdidochas wrote: micfranklin wrote: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/071106_disciplined_911.html

Quote: A fifth grader named 'Mark' reported to Alex Jones' Infowars TV show by phone that he had been sent home with a disciplinary report for visiting 9/11 Truth websites such as Infowars.com.

The 10 year-old Steiner Ranch Elementary student-- in Leander I.S.D. near Austin, Texas-- says that he was browsing such sites during his Computer Lab class period when a fellow student informed on him-- as though he were doing something wrong.

Well, first of all, this kid is only 10 years old and he probably wouldn't have been able to comprehend any of what he was looking for anyway. But then, it is school and all.

Opinions anyone?

Well, having read the link, and over the disciplinary referral, the boy got in trouble for surfing the internet "during a direct instruction class." Meaning that instead of listening to the teacher, and following what she was doing, he was surfing "alternative theory" websites. He didn't get in trouble for surfing infowars specifically ,but for surfing during instruction. Also, it read like this wasn't the first time this kid was in trouble. It read like he was a chronic behavior problem.

Well, its still a shame that a 5th grader got in trouble for something like this.

It's no different than a 5th grader getting in trouble for sleeping in class. He was not doing what he was there for--learning from the teacher.

wyldejackyl · Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 6584 Location: Chicago, IL

So you think he should be sent home with a disciplinary report for it? If it's that big of a deal..block the internet during class! Our computer lab didn't even HAVE an internet connection (although it was some time ago..that's probably why).

If the teacher was boring and/or the lesson was below my standard of learning..I'd be sleeping and surfing the internet too. Challenge the kids and they will (should) pay attention.

L337SIMBA · Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 958 Location: Ottawa.

well i think that if the teacher said to research on the happenings of 9/11 then the student could not have been in trouble. BUT if he was supposed to be worknig on his essay instead of googling stuff well then thats bad and he should close the site and start working. but hell sending him home with a frieking report? holy crap are we getting worse than Cuba or China?

nandan

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14019 Location: Florida

wyldejackyl wrote: So you think he should be sent home with a disciplinary report for it? If it's that big of a deal..block the internet during class! Our computer lab didn't even HAVE an internet connection (although it was some time ago..that's probably why).

If the teacher was boring and/or the lesson was below my standard of learning..I'd be sleeping and surfing the internet too. Challenge the kids and they will (should) pay attention.

For a kid that doesn't make trouble on a regular basis, you're probably right. However, having read the disciplinary report, it seems this isn't the first time he's been in trouble, and basically, the teacher is trying to make sure she has the documentation to get the little darling suspended.

wyldejackyl · Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 6584 Location: Chicago, IL

Why would this make the news then? That kind of s**t happens every day.

I'm not a teacher but all the people I've talked to or know that are teachers, say this sort of thing starts at home, and parental confrontation is the most difficult part in dealing with these "little darlings." Maybe his parents are trying to brainwash him into believing everything he sees on TV, and he's learning to think for himself? ;)

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14019 Location: Florida

wyldejackyl wrote: Why would this make the news then? That kind of s**t happens every day.

I'm not a teacher but all the people I've talked to or know that are teachers, say this sort of thing starts at home, and parental confrontation is the most difficult part in dealing with these "little darlings." Maybe his parents are trying to brainwash him into believing everything he sees on TV, and he's learning to think for himself? ;)

I think it's probably the other way around. I think his parents are "alternate reality" folks, and he was just parroting them.

Read the disciplinary referral off the link the OP gave. This "little darling" has been in trouble all year.

Also, according to the referral, he was specifically supposed to be looking at whitehouse.gov/kids

Whitefields

micfranklin wrote: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/071106_disciplined_911.html

Quote: A fifth grader named 'Mark' reported to Alex Jones' Infowars TV show by phone that he had been sent home with a disciplinary report for visiting 9/11 Truth websites such as Infowars.com.

The 10 year-old Steiner Ranch Elementary student-- in Leander I.S.D. near Austin, Texas-- says that he was browsing such sites during his Computer Lab class period when a fellow student informed on him-- as though he were doing something wrong.

Well, first of all, this kid is only 10 years old and he probably wouldn't have been able to comprehend any of what he was looking for anyway. But then, it is school and all.

Opinions anyone?

I think thats rediculous. Maybe they were supposed to be working on homework or something, but send him home? I don't get it.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14019 Location: Florida

Whitefields wrote: micfranklin wrote: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/071106_disciplined_911.html

Quote: A fifth grader named 'Mark' reported to Alex Jones' Infowars TV show by phone that he had been sent home with a disciplinary report for visiting 9/11 Truth websites such as Infowars.com.

The 10 year-old Steiner Ranch Elementary student-- in Leander I.S.D. near Austin, Texas-- says that he was browsing such sites during his Computer Lab class period when a fellow student informed on him-- as though he were doing something wrong.

Well, first of all, this kid is only 10 years old and he probably wouldn't have been able to comprehend any of what he was looking for anyway. But then, it is school and all.

Opinions anyone?

I think thats rediculous. Maybe they were supposed to be working on homework or something, but send him home? I don't get it.

Do you people read?

The OP's link said that the boy had to bring a disciplinary note home, etc. He didn't get suspended for it. He just got a note sent home and had to talk to the principal. No big deal.

Here's the link:
www.jonesreport.com/articles/091106_discipline.html

Skiazo · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject:

The student had an assignment that he should have been doing instead of surfing the web. I agree that this is no different than sleeping in class and should require some disciplinary action, especially as the student has had other disciplinary issues that year.

I do find it slightly ironic that his classmates were
"...researching [www.whitehouse.gov/kids] ...", however, I do not know the specifics of that assignment.