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Armaan_a · Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Location: pUnjab

An Iraqi court sentenced Saddam Hussein to hang for the 1982 killings of 148 people in a single Shiite town after an attempt on his life there. So Saddam is going to be hanging because of killing 148 people but it’s not a justice. I have a question of those who says that it is justice and correct decision of verdict, than tell me when President Bush is going to be hanging because bush has killed thousands of innocent peoples in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon and still continuing. So I think that if it is justice than I am waiting for that day when American court will give an order of hanging bush not only one time it should be hundred times.

johnflesh · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 503 Location: Texas

Armaan_a wrote: An Iraqi court sentenced Saddam Hussein to hang for the 1982 killings of 148 people in a single Shiite town after an attempt on his life there. So Saddam is going to be hanging because of killing 148 people but it’s not a justice. I have a question of those who says that it is justice and correct decision of verdict, than tell me when President Bush is going to be hanging because bush has killed thousands of innocent peoples in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon and still continuing. So I think that if it is justice than I am waiting for that day when American court will give an order of hanging bush not only one time it should be hundred times.

Punishment for Saddam :tu:
You article bashing Bush :td:

I am not a huge fan of Bush right now, but come on! And to add, is there every really justice?
Here is a hint; No there isn't.

IBTL

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

johnflesh wrote: Punishment for Saddam :tu:
You article bashing Bush :td:

I am not a huge fan of Bush right now, but come on! And to add, is there every really justice?
Here is a hint; No there isn't.

i agree bush bashing does not belong in this thread, make another one if you want to bash bush

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

Bush bashing is allowed here, even if the op's title is a little misleading. He has a very valid point that I would wager more people in the world agree with, than disagree with. I know how you GOP type don't give a sh!t about what the rest of the world thinks(denial), but the OP has a vaild argument.

Edit: I do understand the moral difference in gassing your own people and leading a illgal war, even if the latter leads to much more death. I'm just saying it looks real bad that we are all over hear cheering that Saddam is going to hang when so many people all over the world(and plenty here in the US) thinks that Bush is just as guilty of being a war criminal. Just saying....

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

JoeBen81 wrote: Bush bashing is allowed here, even if the op's title is a little misleading. He has a very valid point that I would wager more people in the world agree with, than disagree with. I know how you GOP type don't give a sh!t about what the rest of the world thinks(denial), but the OP has a vaild argument.

Edit: I do understand the moral difference in gassing your own people and leading a illgal war, even if the latter leads to much more death. I'm just saying it looks real bad that we are all over hear cheering that Saddam is going to hang when so many people all over the world(and plenty here in the US) thinks that Bush is just as guilty of being a war criminal. Just saying....

i know its allowed i was stating this is the worng thread

i dont want to infringe on someones right to speak but this is a fast track off topic and to a locked thread

no.1 · Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 84 Location: NJ

There are two great tradgedies in life, one is not getting what you want. The other is getting it.

Your argument that hanging Saddam is not justice because Bush will not get hanged is a logical fallacy. One has nothing to do with the other. It is probably just to end Saddam's life, but the topic of bringing Bush to justice is another matter entirly.

Just one more point. Who would ever want to be president if you were personally held accountable for the actions of war? Wars are inevitable and civilian losses are inevitable as well. By your logic every president since and including Washington has deserved death, and that my friend is preposterous.

Tempest · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 66

I think they could have come up with a much more imaginative way to kill Saddam Hussein...

There is always the regional favorites of Beheading, Stoning, Firing Squad, etc. Maybe they should kill him the way he has ordered others to die?

Fishstyx · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 2291

Quote: There is always the regional favorites of Beheading, Stoning, Firing Squad, etc. Maybe they should kill him the way he has ordered others to die?

Don't forget the industrial plastic shredder, I believe that was one of Saddam's favorites!

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

no.1 wrote: There are two great tradgedies in life, one is not getting what you want. The other is getting it.

Your argument that hanging Saddam is not justice because Bush will not get hanged is a logical fallacy. One has nothing to do with the other. It is probably just to end Saddam's life, but the topic of bringing Bush to justice is another matter entirly.

Just one more point. Who would ever want to be president if you were personally held accountable for the actions of war? Wars are inevitable and civilian losses are inevitable as well. By your logic every president since and including Washington has deserved death, and that my friend is preposterous.
Bush started an Illegal war, that's the difference. I'm sure you'll come back with the usual conservative rebuttal, but the only people hearing that are other conservatives. Bush<Every other president ever. That's the difference.

TwinkieDP · Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3572 Location: US

Armaan_a wrote: An Iraqi court sentenced Saddam Hussein to hang for the 1982 killings of 148 people in a single Shiite town after an attempt on his life there. So Saddam is going to be hanging because of killing 148 people but it’s not a justice. I have a question of those who says that it is justice and correct decision of verdict, than tell me when President Bush is going to be hanging because bush has killed thousands of innocent peoples in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon and still continuing. So I think that if it is justice than I am waiting for that day when American court will give an order of hanging bush not only one time it should be hundred times.

Did Sadaam not commit an even bigger crime when he used Chemical weapons that resulted in the death of thousands of Kurdish peoples? Why was he not tried for that, instead of the 148 Shiites? One could probably argue that the killing of those 148 Shiites was justified since they made an attempt on Sadaam's life. I'm sure some innocents were killed in the attack on Shiites, but the same has happened during the invasion of Iraq, although on a much larger scale. So, yeah, for different reasons, I think Sadaam's trial was not justice.

Snake · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 21776 Location: e-Thuggin

He had more trials to go through, but I guess they decided this was enough to make him hang by the neck untill he is dead.

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

JoeBen81 wrote: no.1 wrote: There are two great tradgedies in life, one is not getting what you want. The other is getting it.

Your argument that hanging Saddam is not justice because Bush will not get hanged is a logical fallacy. One has nothing to do with the other. It is probably just to end Saddam's life, but the topic of bringing Bush to justice is another matter entirly.

Just one more point. Who would ever want to be president if you were personally held accountable for the actions of war? Wars are inevitable and civilian losses are inevitable as well. By your logic every president since and including Washington has deserved death, and that my friend is preposterous.
Bush started an Illegal war, that's the difference. I'm sure you'll come back with the usual conservative rebuttal, but the only people hearing that are other conservatives. Bush<Every other president ever. That's the difference.

i keep hearing its an "illegal war" what is this assessment based on?

no.1 · Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 84 Location: NJ

It doesn't matter what the trial was about if the end result is the same does it?
They didn't get Capone on murder charges did they, but they got him off the street.
Bush is one of the worst presidents no doubt, but I don't know what makes this war more illegal than others really. At least we didn't sink one of our own ships and blame it on the iraqis. It is rediculous that people seem surprised that politicians are lying. Come on people! Wake up! Their POLITICIANS. They lie more than most rugs. A lot of them were lawyers for heaven's sake.

jmac87 · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Florida

I was just curious as to how many innocent people bush has actually killed. Im pretty sure if i was a soldier in iraq and somebody shot at me i would not consider them to be innocent. Also, if i was the soldier that found saddam this wouldn't even be an issue because i would have killed him on sight. what kind of man hides in a hole while his country is under attack. He deserves to hang for more than killing innocent people in 1982. whether the war is going well or not if somebody attacks my country they better hope im not the president because they will not live to see the light of another day. It was neccesary for our government to take action. Whether this was the right action or not is the debate not whether or not we should have gone to war.

Slythe · Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 1488 Location: US of A

Hang em high! :twisted:

eynon · Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:58 am Post subject:

The Newb wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: no.1 wrote: There are two great tradgedies in life, one is not getting what you want. The other is getting it.

Your argument that hanging Saddam is not justice because Bush will not get hanged is a logical fallacy. One has nothing to do with the other. It is probably just to end Saddam's life, but the topic of bringing Bush to justice is another matter entirly.

Just one more point. Who would ever want to be president if you were personally held accountable for the actions of war? Wars are inevitable and civilian losses are inevitable as well. By your logic every president since and including Washington has deserved death, and that my friend is preposterous.
Bush started an Illegal war, that's the difference. I'm sure you'll come back with the usual conservative rebuttal, but the only people hearing that are other conservatives. Bush<Every other president ever. That's the difference.

i keep hearing its an "illegal war" what is this assessment based on?

yeah I'm a bit confused about that one.........stupid war yes, but illegal? these are not strait forward issues.

Vexillum · Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 466

After all the Saddam bashing, he stands convicted, in a kangaroo court, of only something that pales in comparison to what George W. Bush has done.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7752 Location: Petah Tikva

Saddams actions pale in comparison to Bush's? How can you honestly defend that statement?

eynon · Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject:

Vexillum wrote: After all the Saddam bashing, he stands convicted, in a kangaroo court, of only something that pales in comparison to what George W. Bush has done.

between his own country, Iran, and Kuwait, Saddam's killed close to 2,000,000 people.......Bush hasn't done anything close to that.

VMAN · Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Fort Campbell Ky

The question is are you saying he should be killed because of his incompetence or because he sent troops to war. If the latter is true I have to say that if you start killing people because of incompetence you will cease to have a government. If the former is what you are saying then like someone said earlier you would have to have killed every president starting with washington along with most world leaders and this country would soon be conquered because the president would be afraid to mobilize.