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Richard Owl Mirror · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9002

Search found 3103 matches for GOD in Politics & Government Forum

Does the inclusion of GOD belong in any discussion or debate under the Politics & Government Forum ?

Shouldn't mentioning of GOD merit removal of the thread to the Alternate Theories Forum?

In my opinion, I believe it should.

I would really like to understand the ground rules on this aspect of discussion.
How is the interjecting of GOD into a political debate not grounds for it's removal to the AT forum?

Prof_2k7 · Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 253 Location: Virginia

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Search found 3103 matches for GOD in Politics & Government Forum

Does the inclusion of GOD belong in any discussion or debate under the Politics & Government Forum ?

Shouldn't mentioning of GOD merit removal of the thread to the Alternate Theories Forum?

In my opinion, I believe it should.

I would really like to understand the ground rules on this aspect of discussion.
How is the interjecting of GOD into a political debate not grounds for it's removal to the AT forum?

Hmmm... GOD you say? You just added 4 more to that 3103... your post is a little oxymoronic (with only a little oxy). :P

William Amos · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 6990

Wow you must be really boored you know that ?

BTW think we need to move all the "6 steps into a new direction" to the alternate realities forum.

Its a bunch of fiction too.

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:27 am Post subject:

Well by saying this your swinging the debate in one direction.

God unlike most of the crap in the AT forum is a matter of infallible belief. You can't logically have a standpoint from which to all it an alternate belief, becuase that first requires you to dictate the norm.

meh stupid idea. I saw we move every use of the word 'and' to the alternate theories forum, my justification being as about as complex as yours 'because'.

TheGirlNextDoor · Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 22608

You do realize that a search brings up every time the word itself is used, correct? So if someone has a thread about "In God We Trust" being on currency.. that thread alone will produce at least a few hundred "hits".

Christ.

Has it really come down to running searches on individual words and then whining about it because a person has nothing better to do? There has to be some motivation as to why this suddenly came up. If I were a betting woman.. and I am.. I would guess it was because something had been moved from P&G to Alternate Theories and instead of taking that up with the person that moved it because the move is perceived to be "unjust"..... let's start griping sour grapes and use this as an example and as a "Well lookie here! Move these too!"

How close am I?

I ran a search for "Moon".. and I got a search result for P&G of 386 'hits'.

Maybe we should make an outer space forum and move all those posts there as well?

Not.

mODULAR mAN · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 852 Location: censored

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Search found 3103 matches for GOD in Politics & Government Forum

Does the inclusion of GOD belong in any discussion or debate under the Politics & Government Forum ?

Shouldn't mentioning of GOD merit removal of the thread to the Alternate Theories Forum?

In my opinion, I believe it should.

I would really like to understand the ground rules on this aspect of discussion.
How is the interjecting of GOD into a political debate not grounds for it's removal to the AT forum?

Generally yes, if one is invoking God as a major player, or as a real entity, since immediately the point is moot because there is no God.

However, not if it's like. "Thank God they voted him out"
or, "The Taliban and Christian Fundimentalists place God in higher esteem then the Rights of Man, which is why the education of both is lacking."

It would be a tough call in places but I agree with the intent. We should have a Seperation of Church and Politics, at least in the Forum.

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 20672 Location: Minnesota

Richard, I know you are upset that I moved your post. but we will not be moving every post with the word "God" in it to the alternative theories forum. Unlike issues of politics that deal with keeping God in the pledge or removing it, of using it on our national currency, of debating whether or not it should have a place in national politics, culture, etc., ancient Mayan doomsday scenarios do not deal with politics nor government.

Furthermore, "oh my god" I'm sure came up in a few of your searches.

mODULAR mAN · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 852 Location: censored

thefranzkafkafront wrote: Well by saying this your swinging the debate in one direction.

God unlike most of the crap in the AT forum is a matter of infallible belief. You can't logically have a standpoint from which to all it an alternate belief, becuase that first requires you to dictate the norm.

meh stupid idea. I saw we move every use of the word 'and' to the alternate theories forum, my justification being as about as complex as yours 'because'.

But a God Concept is different from a conjunction.

If I say "We shold have seat belt laws because they save lives", it makes sense.

If I say, "We should have seat belt laws because God says so", it makes no sense. There is no argument because I have made it obvious that I am insane.

BTW:

God wanted the Dem's to win.
God wants abortion legal.
God doesn't want people to have guns.
God wants people to have access to marijuana.
God wants the US to be a Socialist country.

OK, God said it, it must be true. I challenge anyone to argue against God.

Richard Owl Mirror · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9002

John Galt wrote: Richard, I know you are upset that I moved your post. but we will not be moving every post with the word "God" in it to the alternative theories forum. Unlike issues of politics that deal with keeping God in the pledge or removing it, of using it on our national currency, of debating whether or not it should have a place in national politics, culture, etc., ancient Mayan doomsday scenarios do not deal with politics nor government.

Furthermore, "oh my god" I'm sure came up in a few of your searches.

You know full well that my post DEC 21, 2012 was not based upon anything hocus pocus or alternative theory based.
I expressly made that clear TWICE in the first paragraph.
I was simply using the deadline given as an example of how decisions being made today have an impact on cause and effects as recent as this timeline.
I bet you didn't even read the post before moving it but, simply moved it because Mr Snub made a fuss.

I specifically asked for non-partisan replies and the first reply from Mr. Snub was that he would be masturbating to pictures of Hillary Clinton.

I guess we now know which camp you have sympathies toward.

Perhaps it is a result of the immaturity level of the majority of posters on this forum?
Any rational thinking ADULT could have distinguished the intent behind my post.

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 20672 Location: Minnesota

Richard, I only read your post and no one else's in that thread. After reading it I determined that ancient Mayan prophecy has nothing to do with politics nor government and is only an alternative theory.

I know what you expressed, but it was rather silly. Make a thread about your predictions for 2012, fine, but 90% of that post was about this ridiculous Mayan prophesy and you included pictures about it. You know what your post was -- you wrote it. I'm not going to allow Nostradomus threads in P&G and I'm not going to allow this.

Further concerns can be taken up with the Administration.

Ragnar Danneskjold · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 2628 Location: Mulligan's Valley

Lock?

mODULAR mAN · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 852 Location: censored

Ragnar Danneskjold wrote: Lock?

No! if this can get back on topic, it's interesting.

We have an ability to vote in Forums, and we don't need to follow the US Constitution. We could declare that there must be a seperation of church and politics.

(Althouhg, I would argue the COTUS and the FF meant for there to be a seperation)

Sid · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4574 Location: Kansas

No we don't need to follow the us constitution, we need to follow the will of the freaking people who pay for this forum and those they put in power if you have an issue with those they put in power discuss it with and administrator if by the slim chance an administrator agrees with you then it will be fixed, be happy the administration gives you that, and even this board, but remember, this is not a democracy or republic, it is a freaking dictatorship, you have no rights that Heynow didn't decided to give you when he made it, and if cut himself shaving this morning, he can blame it on you and ban you, because this server is his property and he can do what he wants with it.

Wow....

Honestly....

Good God...

:twisted:

mODULAR mAN · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 852 Location: censored

Sid wrote: No we don't need to follow the us constitution, we need to follow the will of the freaking people who pay for this forum and those they put in power if you have an issue with those they put in power discuss it with and administrator if by the slim chance an administrator agrees with you then it will be fixed.

Wow....

Honestly....

Good God...

:twisted:

Sure, I don't disagree, however, I don't need to bow to their will.

We could all vote, and if there is a majority, the Forum "rulers" can agree to it or not.

If they don't, I have the freedom to go to another Forum. In fact, we all do. Maybe that means something to the advertisers on this Forum, or maybe not.

It wouldn't matter to me, since I would excersize my freedom to go or stay as I see fit, and not whether the Forum "rulers" decide. Unless they care to ban me. If so, there is no loss, since there are other Forums and I would prefer to have free speech then be sontrained in a way that is not to my liking. I have been reprimanded, but it isn't outside my threshold of loss of freedom. :wink:

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: Search found 3103 matches for GOD in Politics & Government Forum

Does the inclusion of GOD belong in any discussion or debate under the Politics & Government Forum ?

Shouldn't mentioning of GOD merit removal of the thread to the Alternate Theories Forum?

In my opinion, I believe it should.

I would really like to understand the ground rules on this aspect of discussion.
How is the interjecting of GOD into a political debate not grounds for it's removal to the AT forum?

:shock:

has it come to this? :roll:

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 20672 Location: Minnesota

Modular, to put this as simply as possible:

This is not a democracy. You will not be voting on rules. While you are free to make suggestions, the suggestion that people who do not own this site should be able to use the mob to control the rules of the forum has been considered and rejected.

Ragnar Danneskjold · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 2628 Location: Mulligan's Valley

I would like to revise my statement of opinion:

LOCK!

mODULAR mAN · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 852 Location: censored

John Galt wrote: Modular, to put this as simply as possible:

This is not a democracy. You will not be voting on rules. While you are free to make suggestions, the suggestion that people who do not own this site should be able to use the mob to control the rules of the forum has been considered and rejected.

I am saying as much. We all have the ability to exersize our freedom as we choose. in both directions.

I am not so naive to think a Forum owner has to bend to the will of the users.
I understand I am a guest, but I need not be a submissive guest.

I find it a fascinating exersize in public governance, private enterprise and social rules.

Certainly this thread doesn't need to be locked. It is a suggestion and a valid topic.

The Grandmaster · Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject:

mODULAR mAN wrote:
If I say, "We should have seat belt laws because God says so", it makes no sense. There is no argument because I have made it obvious that I am insane.

:rotf:

mODULAR mAN · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 852 Location: censored

The Grandmaster wrote: mODULAR mAN wrote:
If I say, "We should have seat belt laws because God says so", it makes no sense. There is no argument because I have made it obvious that I am insane.

:rotf:

:-D Yes, I'm quite proud of that one! :lol: