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[ubikk]

perdidochas wrote: Hank Rearden wrote:
OK, I gotta sound old here, but what the heck is going on in society these days? When I went to HS, most guys carried a knife, I've had the first part of the scenario happen, where a teacher asks to borrow a knife, usually returned it with a "thanks" or "nice knife". Are the teachers and administrators really that brain-dead today? BTW, what dumba** gives a teacher a good knife to jimmy a lock with, thats a good way to screw up a nice edge. Of course we also had a rifle range in the basement at the school, the school owned (through the CMP, DCM in those days) a number of target rifles for use. And that was in NY!

Nowadays, they are all considered weapons, but then again, this was in the late 1970s, and knives were against the rules then. Heck, when I was a teacher, I had one classroom that I never got the key for. I broke into it with my leatherman daily :-)

OK, I went to grade school in the 70s. We carried small pocket knives. We never got in any trouble for it unless we brandished it or carved something with it. I sometimes used it to open soda bottles at lunch (yeah i'm THAT old...)

On a related note, one of the kids I went to school with had a mother who could not read English and could barely speak any. Several times she packed a can of beer in his lunch Needless to say, that lent some excitement and laughs to the day!

[perdidochas]

wyldejackyl wrote: Keep the laws, or relax them. A switchblade is no sharper than a butcher knife is no sharper than a 3" swiss army knife. I carry a SOG Seal Pup when out in the woods (technically illegal I guess, but no one's ever said anything), and when geocaching in wooded areas in the city at night. I carry a SOG Trident folder with me daily. Before that it was a Spyderco Endura II and before that it was an Endura I (the only difference is the I is zytel and the II is stainless-handled). I carried the first Endura all throughout high school, clipped to my pocket with no problems. In my school you could be suspended for owning one, but one time the dean saw me using mine stripping some coax cable to fix a connector (I was in the "multimedia club") and didn't say anything to me. I used it to open and cut things all the time, mostly out of view of administrators. Students that saw it didn't say anything, except "nice knife."

When I have a son I'm going to buy him a knife. If the school creates hell about it, I'm going to create hell back for them. This "safety" lunacy is getting out of hand, and I think it's self-perpetuating. I don't know anyone that grew up with a knife, tools, guns, etc that made some idiot mistake with them. We learned young that these things are powerful, meant to be respected, but very useful.

Well, you had better check the laws. In some states, notably Georgia, a student can be expelled for one year for possession of a weapon. Now, outside of school, I have done the same. I got my then 7 yr old a knife for Christmas last year. His brother who's almost 7 may get one this Christmas.

wyldejackyl wrote: I see nothing wrong with knives. I can be just as dangerous with pretty much anything else, but nothing cuts boxes, pries out splinters, spreads peanut butter, strips wire, etc..better than a good pocketknife. I don't see why they don't allow them on airplanes..except for the fact that people are Kitty Cats.

How does it go that if you are raped on the street, and one person sees it, he's more likely to do something than if 10 people see it? People are always so goddam afraid of getting hurt they don't stop and think about helping others. Yeah, I'm that guy you say, "look at this idiot" changing a tire for a woman in the middle of a snowstorm, or telling a raucous bum to get away from a tourist.

What is happening to this country?

We're getting safer :lol:

[wyldejackyl]

Safer and more stupid. I hate that people go along with this crap.

[private_citizen]

TNBiologist wrote: In the "carrying at work" thread the topic of pocket knives was brought up. A couple of people stated they carried a pcoket knife. I know that the UK has a fairly strick knife ownership/carry policy. What I want to know is how people feel about the carry of a pocket knife - not a hunting knife or sword. Should it be allowed or should it as heavily regulated a carrying a gun?

Here is Tennessee's laws regarding knives:
http://198.187.128.12/tennessee/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=fs-main.htm&2.0

39-17-1302. Prohibited weapons:
A person commits an offense who intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs or sells:
A switchblade knife or knuckles

39-17-1307. Unlawful carrying or possession of a weapon:
(a) (1) A person commits an offense who carries with the intent to go armed a firearm, a knife with a blade length exceeding four inches (4"), or a club.
(2) An offense under subdivision (a)(1) is a Class C misdemeanor, except it is a Class A misdemeanor if the person's carrying of a handgun occurred at a place open to the public where one (1) or more persons were present.

Basically, you can own what ever type of blade you want to (except swithblades) but you can only carry a knife with a blade less than 4 inches (which almost all pocket are well less than 4 inches).
Should this law be tightend or is it good the way it is?

I like it the way it is. I can carry a pocket knife for personnal use and can own a machete for clearing brush, etc... but the guy next to me does not have a hunting knife on him walking down the street.

Let me see,,, last time I checked I was neither a serial killer, nor a convicted criminal of any sort however I am an avid sport fisher with a 5 inch blade on my filet knife in the truck... according to that law I should be arrested... I mean how DARE I debone and filet my catch... why I am a danger to society with my ronco pocket fisherman knife!!

Pah-lease... liberals need a new hobby... I know! How about they become a VICTIMS RIGHTS advocate instead of a whiny bunch of no-can-doers

[private_citizen]

ubikk wrote:
OK, I went to grade school in the 70s. We carried small pocket knives. We never got in any trouble for it unless we brandished it or carved something with it. I sometimes used it to open soda bottles at lunch (yeah i'm THAT old...)

On a related note, one of the kids I went to school with had a mother who could not read English and could barely speak any. Several times she packed a can of beer in his lunch Needless to say, that lent some excitement and laughs to the day!


LMFAO, this reminds of of a friend of mine in the 70s. his name was (pronouned but not spelled) Donchie, he was from Hungary and neither he nor his mother could speak a lick of English, well one day he packed a Douche and thought it was a drink box.. LMFAO


oh man.. what a memory