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[Fido]

cap'n queasy wrote: Fido wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Quote: From all I can tell they were exactly like us in most respects.

That was my entire point Fido.
You have a habit enclosing the exact point you are arguing against within your own argument. You have done that twice in debates we were having.

Allow me to elaborate, I see what you are saying, but I'm not sure if you got my point.

Most people throughout human history have thought the idea that there is a God is ridiculous. This is nothing new, it has always been that way. Of course, saying the idea of an infallible Pope is ridiculous, or that Nero wasn't really a god, or that Ba'al wasn't real so I don't want to throw my baby in the fire wasn't something a lot of people did. It would cost you your life in those times.

But the thing is these cultures followed idols, not God. The number of people who actually know and believe in the true Living God is a very small percentage, as all the killing in the name of God clearly shows. It is a sad fact but the entire point of deceptive religions is to make the majority of people think this way.

I didn't mean to insult you, so I apologize for that. You are an intelligent person. I didn't want to imply otherwise, so I'm sorry.

Not true. Primitive peoples are dead serious about religion. All the primitive peoples we know of lived in extremely spiritual worlds. Only with the advent of reason and science has the involvement of God in our lives at a personal level become passe. Cap'n. With all due respect. Think again.

You live in a figment of your own imagination.

No! Close! It's a Fig Newton, and I am afraid the psychic mice have begun to notice.

[Paladin]

Fido wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Fido wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Quote: From all I can tell they were exactly like us in most respects.

That was my entire point Fido.
You have a habit enclosing the exact point you are arguing against within your own argument. You have done that twice in debates we were having.

Allow me to elaborate, I see what you are saying, but I'm not sure if you got my point.

Most people throughout human history have thought the idea that there is a God is ridiculous. This is nothing new, it has always been that way. Of course, saying the idea of an infallible Pope is ridiculous, or that Nero wasn't really a god, or that Ba'al wasn't real so I don't want to throw my baby in the fire wasn't something a lot of people did. It would cost you your life in those times.

But the thing is these cultures followed idols, not God. The number of people who actually know and believe in the true Living God is a very small percentage, as all the killing in the name of God clearly shows. It is a sad fact but the entire point of deceptive religions is to make the majority of people think this way.

I didn't mean to insult you, so I apologize for that. You are an intelligent person. I didn't want to imply otherwise, so I'm sorry.

Not true. Primitive peoples are dead serious about religion. All the primitive peoples we know of lived in extremely spiritual worlds. Only with the advent of reason and science has the involvement of God in our lives at a personal level become passe. Cap'n. With all due respect. Think again.

You live in a figment of your own imagination.

No! Close! It's a Fig Newton, and I am afraid the psychic mice have begun to notice.
:lol:
Okay Okay. So reason destroys spirituality. It must be EVIL then ;)
or maybe it is pride(The deadly kind!) in reason?

A fig newton sounds pretty good right now...

[Narvik]

John wrote: Quote: Name one primitive civilization that wasn't religious!

But just as today...many of the people in these civilizations didn't believe in the religions. Things haven't changed as much as you think they have.
Things have changed.

Take the Aztecs as an example, they were primitive and the religous fanatics were in charge.

The European medieval empires are some other examples. You could be executed if you didn't openly believe in the holy scripture (which you weren't allowed to read).

All of those, at least those in charge were veri religous. Nowadays most governments are secular. Especially in Europe and east Asia.

[The politcal Juggalo]

I do believe in higher beings and that its not what you believe in its just that you believe in something and that if your good and honorable then you will be reincarnated in 40 days with good karma and if you have no honor then you'll be reincarnated in 40 days with bad karma.