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Saracen



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject:  

Red Flag wrote: Ayn Rand doesn't hate anything, she simply holds true to Libertarian Philosophy that the individual comes before all. Basically Ayn Rand contradicts the beliefs of the Church, but to my knowledge never directly attacks it.

Oh, but she does (note anti-Arab racism in her tone)
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Corona



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject:  

I didn't see anything in that article that she wrote.
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Babylon_Horuv



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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject:  

Refrozen Seabass wrote: Quote: I think conservatives are better able to handle dissent than Liberals.

Then explain the cries of treason.

Quote: I notice they seem far less concerned about people disagreeing with them and are often better able to recognize that someone may be quite worthwhile in some respects while disagreeing with them completely on other things.

Then explain the cries of treason.

From George W Bush and his supporters? Ask a conservative, they aren't. They're big government neo-cons. Conservatives dislike neo-cons just as liberals dislike neo-liberalism.
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Pareve



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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject:  

Red Flag wrote: Ayn Rand doesn't hate anything, she simply holds true to Libertarian Philosophy that the individual comes before all. Basically Ayn Rand contradicts the beliefs of the Church, but to my knowledge never directly attacks it.

Ayn Rand hated collectives and collectivists. A lot. That's why they are all portrayed as weak, stupid strawmen in her novels.
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject:  

Refrozen Seabass wrote: Quote: I think conservatives are better able to handle dissent than Liberals.

Then explain the cries of treason.

Quote: I notice they seem far less concerned about people disagreeing with them and are often better able to recognize that someone may be quite worthwhile in some respects while disagreeing with them completely on other things.

Then explain the cries of treason.

Actual treason? :lol:
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Refrozen Seabass



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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject:  

[quote="Babylon_Horuv"] Refrozen Seabass wrote: Quote: I think conservatives are better able to handle dissent than Liberals.

Then explain the cries of treason.

Quote: I notice they seem far less concerned about people disagreeing with them and are often better able to recognize that someone may be quite worthwhile in some respects while disagreeing with them completely on other things.

Then explain the cries of treason.

Quote: From George W Bush and his supporters?

That's them!

Quote: Ask a conservative, they aren't.

I don't understand this sentence. Ask a conservative what? Who's 'they', and what is it you're saying they aren't?

Quote: They're big government neo-cons. Conservatives dislike neo-cons just as liberals dislike neo-liberalism.

Okay. I don't see anything indicating liberals are more troubled by dissent, though.
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Justinius Honorious



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Really  

I don't know much about Ayn Rand but learning for you folks it's obvious this person is by no definition a Christian nor understands what real christian society was like. I'm personally concearned that people actually think this person is a christian because Ayn says he is when it's obvious this person really isn't a christian at all. I guess-and-gather the only real reason why this person hasn't spoken against the church is because hes's stated he's a christian and he knows his ideas are not mainstream christian, meaning it could only hurt his name. Personally, I think this guys a wack-job and no christian whatsoever. It also angers me that he tries to protect his stupid philosophy with his BS claim he's a christian follower. It's even more a damn shame people today are shallow enough to think their christians and have a free choice to support Ayn Rayden.

The Truth Is, Morality cannot be defined by individual choice. Christianity like all religions unites people together is the foundation of many countries. Religion is one of the most important aspects of a country. A common religion is a keystone in helping to ensure the survival of a country.
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