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[Abner Doon]

A parent beats their baby, you condemn them. How could you cause such pain in a young child, they're innocent. They even punch them once, and this is the reaction (most) people would give. Yeah, try cutting the skin off their 'member' when they're 7 days old (correct?). Not only does this cause them extreme pain, it will affect them their whole lives, and is decided by parents. Should a parent have the right to make this decision, and harm their child, and scar them for life (that's the goal...lol kind of sick to think about). Just wondering about your opinions on this sensitive issue. Should a parents religion be able to decide this for their child?[/u]

[Revenant]

Um....yeah.

[pyrophasma]

Abner Doon wrote: A parent beats their baby, you condemn them. How could you cause such pain in a young child, they're innocent. They even punch them once, and this is the reaction (most) people would give. Yeah, try cutting the skin off their 'member' when they're 7 days old (correct?). Not only does this cause them extreme pain, it will affect them their whole lives, and is decided by parents. Should a parent have the right to make this decision, and harm their child, and scar them for life (that's the goal...lol kind of sick to think about). Just wondering about your opinions on this sensitive issue. Should a parents religion be able to decide this for their child?[/u]

Incidentally, your parents birthing you will affect you for the rest of your life as well. And how they raise you can greatly contribute to how easily you become an upstanding citizen, or a vagabond.

The solution? Have the government raise kids. They'll take care of us.

[The Comrade]

Abner Doon wrote: A parent beats their baby, you condemn them. How could you cause such pain in a young child, they're innocent. They even punch them once, and this is the reaction (most) people would give. Yeah, try cutting the skin off their 'member' when they're 7 days old (correct?). Not only does this cause them extreme pain, it will affect them their whole lives, and is decided by parents. Should a parent have the right to make this decision, and harm their child, and scar them for life (that's the goal...lol kind of sick to think about). Just wondering about your opinions on this sensitive issue. Should a parents religion be able to decide this for their child?[/u]


such pain to a young child?

do you know what smegma is? if you did you would think differently of circumcision.

we punch babies? what the f**k are you talking about?

[Abner Doon]

I was saying if someone punch their babys once they'd get comdemned.

[Richard Owl Mirror]

Quote: Should a parent be allowed to have their baby circumcised?
Yes and here's why
No and here's why


Now exactly HOW is this topic related to Politics and Government ?

[Abner Doon]

well they can move it if they want but there was no 'appropriate' section for this

[The Comrade]

Abner Doon wrote: I was saying if someone punch their babys once they'd get comdemned.

Because punching a child will probably result in instant death or retardation, where as circumcision is for hygein. comparing the two is rediculous.


shots also cause pain, your child should live for 18 years with the risk of fatal and debilitating diseases until he or she sees fit to get vaccinated for things like..oh hell i don't know, polio or hepatitus?

[mr.snruB]

Oh.....it's alright to cut off part of a young boys penis for hygiene because he may not wash it. Riiiiight.

How come people don't rip out kids teeth to prevent cavities?


I say you wait until he's old enough to understand what the procedure is, and let him decide for himself

[Comrade Dave]

Staying as mature as I possibly can on the matter, it's been proven that there are some hygene problems associated with keeping your foreskin. This isn't to say that foreskin equals disease, infection, or the like but most people have their children circumcised for cleanliness issues.

[The Comrade]

mr.snruB wrote: Oh.....it's alright to cut off part of a young boys penis for hygiene because he may not wash it. Riiiiight.

How come people don't rip out kids teeth to prevent cavities?


I say you wait until he's old enough to understand what the procedure is, and let him decide for himself


hyperbole. and a stupid one at that.


and i'm happy i was circumcised before i could feel, remember, and understand the pain. and i really am happy i don't need to spend an extra five minutes scrubbing my junk to make sure it doesn't smell like a landfill.

[Abner Doon]

A shot has a purpose, to protect from disease. A circumcision is not hygienic obviously. It is religious (except for medical reasons, which are the extreme minority). I'm personally against harming a child for religion. You could argue 'it's not harming', but it does cause pain. What's the real purpose of it, besides hygiene? Maybe punching was a bad example. How about just harming a child without impending death as a result?
Did god say "Oh...um crap...well I was quite a bit drunk on that sixth night so um... I made a mistake. Can you just cut the skin of their member for me? Yeah...um thanks...sorry about that.

[mr.snruB]

The Comrade wrote: mr.snruB wrote: Oh.....it's alright to cut off part of a young boys penis for hygiene because he may not wash it. Riiiiight.

How come people don't rip out kids teeth to prevent cavities?


I say you wait until he's old enough to understand what the procedure is, and let him decide for himself


hyperbole. and a stupid one at that.


and i'm happy i was circumcised before i could feel, remember, and understand the pain. and i really am happy i don't need to spend an extra five minutes scrubbing my junk to make sure it doesn't smell like a landfill.

How is my comparison stupid? Please, explain why it is.

There's many, MANY glands that are destroyed and gotten rid of in circumcision. When you get one you lose a lot of the pleasure you would have during sex. You also lose sensitivity because your foreskin would protect your penishead, but if you're circumsized it rubs against clothing and sort of calluses

[perdidochas]

Abner Doon wrote: A parent beats their baby, you condemn them. How could you cause such pain in a young child, they're innocent. They even punch them once, and this is the reaction (most) people would give. Yeah, try cutting the skin off their 'member' when they're 7 days old (correct?). Not only does this cause them extreme pain, it will affect them their whole lives, and is decided by parents. Should a parent have the right to make this decision, and harm their child, and scar them for life (that's the goal...lol kind of sick to think about). Just wondering about your opinions on this sensitive issue. Should a parents religion be able to decide this for their child?[/u]

Of course. Parents should be able to decide almost everything for their children. Male circumcision does not cause any problems, and is a remedy for a few. Circumcized males have a much lower incidence of urethral/bladder infections, and of penis cancer.

[The Comrade]

Abner Doon wrote: A shot has a purpose, to protect from disease. A circumcision is not hygienic obviously. It is religious (except for medical reasons, which are the extreme minority). I'm personally against harming a child for religion. You could argue 'it's not harming', but it does cause pain. What's the real purpose of it, besides hygiene? Maybe punching was a bad example. How about just harming a child without impending death as a result?
Did god say "Oh...um crap...well I was quite a bit drunk on that sixth night so um... I made a mistake. Can you just cut the skin of their member for me? Yeah...um thanks...sorry about that.


circumcision is for hygenic reasons.



this is what happens to you when you aren't circumcised and you fail to clean properly(may be graphic)

that's very much disgusting and unclean. but apparently hygeine isn't at all important to you.

and harming a child is CHILD ABUSE and you get arrested for it.

[perdidochas]

Abner Doon wrote: A shot has a purpose, to protect from disease. A circumcision is not hygienic obviously. It is religious (except for medical reasons, which are the extreme minority). I'm personally against harming a child for religion. You could argue 'it's not harming', but it does cause pain. What's the real purpose of it, besides hygiene? Maybe punching was a bad example. How about just harming a child without impending death as a result?
Did god say "Oh...um crap...well I was quite a bit drunk on that sixth night so um... I made a mistake. Can you just cut the skin of their member for me? Yeah...um thanks...sorry about that.

The majority of circumcisions in the U.S. are not for religious reasons, they are for hygienic reasons. The only people getting religious circumcisions in the U.S. are Jews, and I believe they make up about 1-2% of the population.

[Tono]

Believe it or not, women often squeeze babies' heads with their vaginas.

Talk about torture...

[The Comrade]

mr.snruB wrote: How is my comparison stupid? Please, explain why it is.

people need teeth is why your comparison is stupid.


mr.snruB wrote: There's many, MANY glands that are destroyed and gotten rid of in circumcision. When you get one you lose a lot of the pleasure you would have during sex. You also lose sensitivity because your foreskin would protect your penishead, but if you're circumsized it rubs against clothing and sort of calluses


my penis has never been rubbed raw, it hasn't lost it's sensitivity either. your nerve endings are in the HEAD of your penis, not your foreskin.

[Sensor]

The Comrade, you lose alot of nerve endings when you are circumcised. What are these hygiene problems you speak of? Any studies done on that?

It is just brutal to cut a piece of someone for reasons that are not even certain (the alleged increase in hygiene).

[Abner Doon]

Seriously??? Hygienic reasons??? That is so...pointless. I mean either take a minute washing the foreskin or lose most of the pleasure in sex? I bet a lot of them are because 'like father like son.' Talk about egotistical.