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[el_hombre_de_Dios]

By JENNIFER LEAHY
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle wrote: Homicide rate on track to be worst in a decade
Evacuees play large role in the rise, police say

With more than 300 homicides since January, Houston is on pace to record nearly 400 slayings for the year - which would be the highest number of killings the city has seen in more than a decade.

As of Oct. 16, the city had recorded 316 homicides, up 25 percent from the 252 slayings at this time last year. The Houston Police Department said an uptick in homicides by Hurricane Katrina evacuees has contributed to that increase.

``We recognize that the homicide rate is up as far as raw numbers and as well as percentages relative to the population,'' said Capt. Dwayne Ready. ``We also recognize that Katrina evacuees continue to have an impact on the murder rate.''

Though overall crime is slightly down for the year, the police department has had a difficult time reining in the rising homicide rate. But it's still not time to panic, police said.

``The homicide rate has been much higher in years past, especially the 1980s,'' Ready said. ``Even if the number ... for 2006 hits 400 it's not a bleak picture for Houston.''

The city's homicide rate declined throughout the 1990s. In 1991 there were 608 homicides. The rate steadily dropped from 465 in 1992, to 254 in 1998 - a far cry from 1981, the year the city was dubbed the murder capital of the United States when it tallied 701 homicides.



The continuing cycle of violence among evacuees appears to be one of the biggest contributors to the city's homicide rate, police said: 65 Katrina-related slayings. Authorities first spotted increases in 2005. By year's end, the city had recorded 334 homicides.

During the previous 10 years, homicide rates never topped the 316 slayings in 1995.

The Katrina population has certainly impacted the murder rate,'' said Houston Police spokesman John Cannon.

Houston Chronicle: Homicide rate on track to be worst in a decade

Though not politically correct to say, much of this carnage is black killing black. Statistics show the murder rate amongst blacks at a 7 to 1 ratio when compared to whites. The point is white people wouldn't put up with this type of criminality in their neighborhoods. So why do the blacks? Because they're duped by the DNC into believing if they but wait a while longer until a solidly democratic house, senate and executive branch comes into power the government will save them?

Yeah right. The left's record for dealing with the issues confronting the black populace is a dismal failure. 50% of black males drop out of high school. Blacks undoubtedly have the poorest funded and shoddiest schools in the nation. 70% of black children are born out of wedlock. Here in the long time liberal dominated 'Left Coast' 50% of the prison population is black though they comprise only 12% of the general population.

So should we expect the plight of the black people in this nation to get any better? Looks to me like they have no hope, except of being the intellectual voting slaves of the DNC. Lets face the facts, voting democratic hasn't gotten them much of anything..except used. And the continued plight of black America more than aptly proves this. Things haven't changed a great deal from when MLK said these words, "One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity." Martin Luther King
"I have a dream"-speech, Aug. 28, 1963

And 43 years later voting DNC has gotten them what?

[Peace420]

To many bad elements came here, and its a shame most want to stay.

[JoeBen81]

More like Bush's gift to Houston.
OH snap! No he didn't....

[JoeBen81]

Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

[lucidnightmare]

JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Black poor people commit more crime?

[Alizard]

JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Yes, he's saying that the poor rabble should be confined to specific areas of the country so they don't offend or annoy the really good people.

And if they get out of their areas, they should be shipped back so they will know "their place".

[Alizard]

lucidnightmare wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Black poor people commit more crime? Based on prison polulations, they certainly get convicted of more crimes.... and sentenced to longer terms.

But, everybody knows tht cocaine in the form of a rock is Satan's mark, and anybody who uses it should rot in jail...... yet cocaine in powder form is the siren's song which lures good men to the dark side.... and they must be saved by rehab, not prison.

[lucidnightmare]

Alizard wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Yes, he's saying that the poor rabble should be confined to specific areas of the country so they don't offend or annoy the really good people.

And if they get out of their areas, they should be shipped back so they will know "their place".

The reality is that most people,black people included would rather not live in gang infested **** or have their communities turned into such.No need to apologize for that.

[lucidnightmare]

Alizard wrote: lucidnightmare wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Black poor people commit more crime? Based on prison polulations, they certainly get convicted of more crimes.... and sentenced to longer terms.

But, everybody knows tht cocaine in the form of a rock is Satan's mark, and anybody who uses it should rot in jail...... yet cocaine in powder form is the siren's song which lures good men to the dark side.... and they must be saved by rehab, not prison.

It's not just crack.They are convicted of other crimes and commit them at higher rates.It's not a conspiracy to put black people in jail.

I don't believe that race has anything to do with behavior genetically.But the combination of the history of racism from whites and being used by white liberal identity politics has produced the problems that they without a doubt have.

[Alizard]

lucidnightmare wrote: Alizard wrote: lucidnightmare wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Black poor people commit more crime? Based on prison polulations, they certainly get convicted of more crimes.... and sentenced to longer terms.

But, everybody knows tht cocaine in the form of a rock is Satan's mark, and anybody who uses it should rot in jail...... yet cocaine in powder form is the siren's song which lures good men to the dark side.... and they must be saved by rehab, not prison.

It's not just crack.They are convicted of other crimes and commit them at higher rates.It's not a conspiracy to put black people in jail.

No, it's not a conspiracy, it's just racism. Look at the charges brought and sentences handed down for similar crimes and it becomes clear. The "powder" versus "crack" cocaine is just on example.

It's the same drug, it's a felony..... but the sentences are vastly different for use.

[Alizard]

Quote: SUMMARY: Chattahoochee Judicial District
The Death Penalty in Microcosm

Nearly 20 years after the Supreme Court held the death penalty unconstitutional--largely because of racial discrimination--the death penalty in America continues to reflect the worst aspects of our judicial system: racism, unequal treatment of the poor, a shamefully inadequate legal defense system and abuse of discretion by ambitious prosecutors and other politicians seeking higher office.

The Chattahoochee Judicial District in Georgia is a microcosm of this national disgrace:

Through the end of 1990, death sentences had been imposed against 20 people, more than in any other district in the state, and nearly twice as many as Atlanta which has three times the population;
More than half of the black men sentenced to death were tried by all-white juries--after the District Attorney used his discretion (peremptory challenges) to remove every black potential juror;
While black people account for 65 percent of all homicide victims, the DA seeks the death penalty almost exclusively in white victim cases;
Families of white murder victims are treated with dignity and respect by the DA's office, while black victims' families are abused or ignored;
For many years, a white public defender--appointed by elected white judges--refused to challenge systematic underrepresent-ation of blacks in the jury pool "for fear of incurring the community's hostility;"
The DA has sought the death penalty in nearly 40 percent of the cases where the defendant was black and the victim white, in 32 percent of the cases where both defendant and victim were white, in just 6 percent of the cases where both defendant and victim were black and never where the defendant was white and the victim black.
By executing more people than any other state, 80 percent of them black, Georgia has earned the title, "The Nation's Executioner."

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=45&did=540

[el_hombre_de_Dios]

Alizard wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Yes, he's saying that the poor rabble should be confined to specific areas of the country so they don't offend or annoy the really good people.

And if they get out of their areas, they should be shipped back so they will know "their place".

Who's saying that? No one. I'm simply pointing to the dismal facts. And after patronizing the democratic party, for how many years now, what has it gotten black America?

I'll repeat myself:
earlier el hombre wrote: So should we expect the plight of the black people in this nation to get any better? Looks to me like they have no hope, except of being the intellectual voting slaves of the DNC. Lets face the facts, voting democratic hasn't gotten them much of anything..except used. And the continued plight of black America more than aptly proves this. Things haven't changed a great deal from when MLK said these words, "One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity." Martin Luther King
"I have a dream"-speech, Aug. 28, 1963

And 43 years later voting DNC has gotten them what?

Answer? Little if anything but continued intellectaul slavery.
Quote: It pains me deeply, or more deeply than any of you can imagine, to be perceived by so many members of my race as doing them harm. All the sacrifice, all the long hours of preparation were to help, not to hurt. But what hurts more, much more, is the amount of time and attention spent on manufactured controversies and media sideshows when so many problems cry out for constructive attention.
I have come here today not in anger or to anger, though my mere presence has been sufficient, obviously, to anger some. Nor have I come to defend my views, but rather to assert my right to think for myself, to refuse to have my ideas assigned to me as though I was an intellectual slave because I'm black. I come to state that I'm a man, free to think for myself and do as I please. I've come to assert that I am a judge and I will not be consigned the unquestioned opinions of others. But even more than that, I have come to say that isn't it time to move on? Isn't it time to realize that being angry with me solves no problems? Isn't it time to acknowledge that the problem of race has defied simple solutions and that not one of us, not a single one of us can lay claim to the solution? Isn't it time that we respect ourselves and each other as we have demanded respect from others? Isn't it time to ignore those whose sole occupation is sowing seeds of discord and animus? That is self-hatred. Isn't it time to continue diligently to search for lasting solutions. I believe that the time has come today. God bless each of you, and may God keep you. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas

Read quote in bold please. It's obvious by his words that the Supreme Court Justice sees through the facade of the shameless "intellectual slave" treatment of the black people by the DNC the same as I do.

[Lumina]

Alizard wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

Yes, he's saying that the poor rabble should be confined to specific areas of the country so they don't offend or annoy the really good people.

And if they get out of their areas, they should be shipped back so they will know "their place".

Well, ya know what? Poor rabble--or rich rabble, for that matter--who commit crimes really should know their place: Behind bars.

[Snake]

JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else?? lol, here we go with the race card again.

New Orleans dumped a lot of garbage on our front porch, that's the point.

[Peace420]

Kamel wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else?? lol, here we go with the race card again.

New Orleans dumped a lot of garbage on our front porch, that's the point.

Exactly, New Orleans was close if not the Murder capital of the United States in recent years due to drug violence and gangs. Alot of the problems here in Houston are the effect of mixing these elements with our own established ones here. The drug market in Houston is very lucrative and like I said established, and odviously their murder problem has shifted to our city. Violence in schools has also been on the up because of culutre clash, mostly gang culture.

[Superfly]

Yeah, right - like Houston was a beacon of peace and harmony before Katrina refugees came there. :lol:

The only time I have ever been robbed is when I was in Houston.

You guys are just pissed because you don't want New Orleans residents there. Where do you want them to go? Back to the Superdome?

[Peace420]

Superfly wrote: Yeah, right - like Houston was a beacon of peace and harmony before Katrina refugees came there. :lol:

The only time I have ever been robbed is when I was in Houston.

You guys are just pissed because you don't want New Orleans residents there. Where do you want them to go? Back to the Superdome?

Exactly, you act like we needed help or something to add to our own problems. The plan wasnt exactly for half of them to relocate to Houston, it just happened that way

[pikers]

JoeBen81 wrote: Really though, what's your point? Poor people commit more crime? I think we already knew that. Are you saying something else??

YES! He's saying that the reason why they're still poor is that it's hard to break out of that cycle, when you've been convinced by your blessed political party that the only solution is to keep your hands out and wait for the DNC manna.

The RNC, as anyone who pays attention knows, says just the opposite. The proof is in the stats that you want to lay at the feet of the white man; it needs to be laid at the feet of the Jackass.

[Superfly]

Peace420 wrote: Superfly wrote: Yeah, right - like Houston was a beacon of peace and harmony before Katrina refugees came there. :lol:

The only time I have ever been robbed is when I was in Houston.

You guys are just pissed because you don't want New Orleans residents there. Where do you want them to go? Back to the Superdome?

Exactly, you act like we needed help or something to add to our own problems. The plan wasnt exactly for half of them to relocate to Houston, it just happened that way

I ask again - where should they go? Their town is destroyed. Many of them are still waiting on those insurance checks. Where do you think that they should end up?

[Superfly]

pikers wrote: [The RNC, as anyone who pays attention knows, says just the opposite. The proof is in the stats that you want to lay at the feet of the white man; it needs to be laid at the feet of the Jackass.

Huh?????