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programmusic · Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 908

thankfully none.

bunny · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 584

programmusic wrote: thankfully none.

thankfully!

Nelson · Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject:

Who wanted these children to die - Israel or Hezbollah?

Hezbollah purposely hid by the home of these children and fired missiles from their neighborhood. Why did Hezbollah do it there and not in an open field? Because Hezbollah wanted Israel to be forced to kill 'civilians' in order to stop them.

Hezbollah thrives on the death of Lebanese civilians - and Lebanese civilians seem to be eagerly assisting Hezbollah in hiding in their neighborhoods. Do not expect Israel to let their cities be bombed just because Hezbollah is hiding inside of a city.

Venom · Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Posts: 807

Quote: Please, dying is totally in the job description of every soldier
:lol:
When I signed up I forgot that I said I'd love to die as a "soldier".
Death is a possibility, although I've never talked to anyone in the military whom signed up and then expected to be KIA.
Ever wonder why the militaries of the world tend to attract young men? Because many believe they are invincible.
People die in war, but apparently it's unexpected to many people on this forum atleast who cite a extremely low coaltion death count as being wiped out, or civilians dying as some sort of intentional genocide.

Now as compared to these terrorist groups you seem to support who give you a suicide vest....

Also I hope you realize that atleast in the United States there are military jobs that do NOT deploy outside of the United States and they are not expected to actually fight someone despite being in the military.

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

Quote: Please, dying is totally in the job description of every soldier

wow so i was expected to die in all 3 of the conflicts i served in?? wow i am glad i let down my gov

L337SIMBA · Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 959 Location: Ottawa.

Wow
I think you kids should stop listening to the propoganda from the media. Back in the day, before the Isareal - Palestinian war started....
The Palestinians sold their land and they thought that they will settle (with their new found gold) in an Arab state ( Jordan, Syria, bla bla bla). Nevertheless these Arab States got pissed and kicked them out. So starts the Palestians trying to get their land back...

nanan

ALi* · Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Beirut

The Newb wrote: Quote: Please, dying is totally in the job description of every soldier

wow so i was expected to die in all 3 of the conflicts i served in?? wow i am glad i let down my gov

wake up man... do u take everything as a joke? :-|
it means theres a possibility u couldve died in all 3 conflicts or watever ur talking abt. staying at home wouldnt kill you but being a soldier has death in the job description.

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

ALi* wrote: The Newb wrote: Quote: Please, dying is totally in the job description of every soldier

wow so i was expected to die in all 3 of the conflicts i served in?? wow i am glad i let down my gov

wake up man... do u take everything as a joke? :-|
it means theres a possibility u couldve died in all 3 conflicts or watever ur talking abt. staying at home wouldnt kill you but being a soldier has death in the job description.

well yes it does, but it is never expected for you to die as was the point bunny was making. we do not expect our soldiers to die but we know it is possible

maybe i should not have been sarcastic it seems you lost my meaning

Venom · Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Posts: 807

Quote: it means theres a possibility u couldve died in all 3 conflicts or watever ur talking abt. staying at home wouldnt kill you but being a soldier has death in the job description.
I dunno staying at home is pretty risky. What if I have to drive to the store? I could die in a car accident. What if I decide to exercise? Well I could die of an Asthma induced heart attack. So staying at home can get you killed, heck look at Lebanon/Israel.
Now yes joining the military has an inherent risk of death, so does everything. No one I've met expects to die driving to the store, nor do they expect to die by joining the military.

Picaro · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 57

ALi* wrote: staying at home wouldnt kill you but being a soldier has death in the job description.

I'm sure your own death is in the job description of the Lebanese Army and most other ME armies, but in the U.S. military it's 'our enemies' soldiers' death that's in the job description, not our own. We don't raise our children here with such wonderful character building toys as suicide vests and deranged genocidal mindsets. Yes, we have our problems, but not those.

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15233 Location: On Earth

Nelson wrote: Who wanted these children to die - Israel or Hezbollah?

I'm talking about the many innocents who die under Israeli occupation.

Quote: Hezbollah purposely hid by the home of these children and fired missiles from their neighborhood. Why did Hezbollah do it there and not in an open field? Because Hezbollah wanted Israel to be forced to kill 'civilians' in order to stop them.

Wrong. Hizbullah never hid behind civilians. This was proven to be a fallacy because Hizbullah soldiers tend to stay away from civilian-populated areas and distance themselves from all sorts of civilian units, who might be spies.

Quote: Hezbollah thrives on the death of Lebanese civilians - and Lebanese civilians seem to be eagerly assisting Hezbollah in hiding in their neighborhoods. Do not expect Israel to let their cities be bombed just because Hezbollah is hiding inside of a city.

No. Hizbullah thrives on the victory in getting Israel out of Lebanon. They didn't thrive because many Lebanese died. Those who died as martyrs are still grieved, but they died when their country was in a time of desperate need.

Picaro wrote: I'm sure your own death is in the job description of the Lebanese Army and most other ME armies, but in the U.S. military it's 'our enemies' soldiers' death that's in the job description, not our own. We don't raise our children here with such wonderful character building toys as suicide vests and deranged genocidal mindsets. Yes, we have our problems, but not those.

Please. You don't know the half of it. Not only is that a glittering racist generality, but it's also a fallacy to think that all Arabs and Muslims are suicidal.

Picaro · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 57

Saracen wrote:
Please. You don't know the half of it. Not only is that a glittering racist generality, but it's also a fallacy to think that all Arabs and Muslims are suicidal.

Oh, are you Ali, too? I know being Lebanese isn't a race, but a nationality. Do you know that? apparently not. Are you claiming otherwise?

In any case, your obvious projection is hilarious, coming from such an ardent genocide terrorist supporter.

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15233 Location: On Earth

Picaro wrote: Oh, are you Ali, too? I know being Lebanese isn't a race, but a nationality. Do you know that? apparently not. Are you claiming otherwise?

Your claim was borderline racist if not racist. It's a bigotted point of view directed at people who don't have such a bad mentality in general.

Quote: In any case, your obvious projection is hilarious, coming from such an ardent genocide terrorist supporter.

So, you're calling me an ardent genocide terrorist supporter? Watch your accusations. I can throw the same one back at your support for Israel, but then again, I don't generalize.

programmusic · Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 908

and yet in another thread you talk about how Israel wil "need luck" because the Koran prophecises it's destruction.

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15233 Location: On Earth

programmusic wrote: and yet in another thread you talk about how Israel wil "need luck" because the Koran prophecises it's destruction.

The state, yes. The people, no. The Koran prophesised the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire as well. Did its people die? No.

Tepic · Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1278

Saracen wrote: The state, yes. The people, no. The Koran prophesised the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire as well. Did its people die? No.
Would it be nitpicky to say that as predictions go, it's safe to say every political structure falls eventually?

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15233 Location: On Earth

Tepic wrote: Saracen wrote: The state, yes. The people, no. The Koran prophesised the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire as well. Did its people die? No.
Would it be nitpicky to say that as predictions go, it's safe to say every political structure falls eventually?

Yes.

romannn · Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Arizona

Israel does not target children.

Tepic · Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1278

Saracen wrote: Tepic wrote: Saracen wrote: The state, yes. The people, no. The Koran prophesised the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire as well. Did its people die? No.
Would it be nitpicky to say that as predictions go, it's safe to say every political structure falls eventually?

Yes.

How so? How many of today's political structures were around a thousand years ago ... two thousand ... ten thousand?

bunny · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 584

romannn wrote: Israel does not target children.

Link?