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The Comrade · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 10556 Location: Zagreb

wait.

bunny is fiction?

bunny · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 584

WHOA... sorry boys, but I'm bunny.

hate to ruin the conspiracy.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 11646 Location: idaho

They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

lilwolf wrote: They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

less blood instant cauterization geez dont get your panties in a wad, it works and is "cleaner" with the lack of blood

now you cant claim bloodshed :wink:

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 11646 Location: idaho

The Newb wrote: lilwolf wrote: They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

less blood instant cauterization geez dont get your panties in a wad, it works and is "cleaner" with the lack of blood

now you cant claim bloodshed :wink:

true ....how true... :lol:

the_doctor · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 353 Location: Sydney

lilwolf wrote: They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

Not the point, illegal or not, war or no war they cause burning to the flesh and should be outlawed like other chemical weapons.

Venom · Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Posts: 807

Quote: they cause burning to the flesh and should be outlawed like other chemical weapons
So do bombs, missiles, grenades, mine strikes, etc... ban them too?

Rankor and Pissing · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 8462

[quote="Saracen"] Rankor and Pissing wrote: So I gather "bunny" is the new anti-semite either linked to or directly from Palestine or Lebanon? Yes, using bleach to clean resaurant implements which touched raw meat is also chemical warfare apparently... :roll:

Read his post again. Just because he villified Israel doesn't mean he's a Jew-hater.

The Newb wrote: posting without reading ..... dayum! he stated "THE NEW ANTI-SEMITE" i beleive he thinks your arab but hates jews in the manner of an anti-semite would

Quite possible... however, bunny's first subject matter posts:
- Israel still killing children
- Israel admits to using chemical weapons in Lebanon
- Israel = New Weapons?

Certainly wouldn't be very well received in the ME forum if "Israel" were replaced with "Muslim" would it?

Saracen wrote: Most Arabs are actually not anti-Semitic, but use the phrase "Yahudi" to mean "Zionist", not "Jew", which is its literal meaning. Quite right and thank you for that correction. :tu:

bunny · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 584

[quote="Rankor and Pissing"] Saracen wrote: Rankor and Pissing wrote: So I gather "bunny" is the new anti-semite either linked to or directly from Palestine or Lebanon? Yes, using bleach to clean resaurant implements which touched raw meat is also chemical warfare apparently... :roll:

Read his post again. Just because he villified Israel doesn't mean he's a Jew-hater.

The Newb wrote: posting without reading ..... dayum! he stated "THE NEW ANTI-SEMITE" i beleive he thinks your arab but hates jews in the manner of an anti-semite would

Quite possible... however, bunny's first subject matter posts:
- Israel still killing children
- Israel admits to using chemical weapons in Lebanon
- Israel = New Weapons?

Certainly wouldn't be very well received in the ME forum if "Israel" were replaced with "Muslim" would it?

Saracen wrote: Most Arabs are actually not anti-Semitic, but use the phrase "Yahudi" to mean "Zionist", not "Jew", which is its literal meaning. Quite right and thank you for that correction. :tu:

I'm talking about a country, not a race or religion, but a secular state, so i really don't understand wtf your problem is....

the_doctor · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 353 Location: Sydney

Venom wrote: Quote: they cause burning to the flesh and should be outlawed like other chemical weapons
So do bombs, missiles, grenades, mine strikes, etc... ban them too?

One day...yes. But start with phosphorus weapons.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 11646 Location: idaho

the_doctor wrote: lilwolf wrote: They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

Not the point, illegal or not, war or no war they cause burning to the flesh and should be outlawed like other chemical weapons.

I am a vet and I have seen willie pete work very well where other weapons will not get the enemy out of a particular spot. I have no problem with them and I understand they are "considered" by some to be a chemical weapon, but in war your object is to destroy your enemy and not play political correctness.
So what...bullets cause holes in bodies and they are not illegal in war fare.

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

lilwolf wrote: the_doctor wrote: lilwolf wrote: They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

Not the point, illegal or not, war or no war they cause burning to the flesh and should be outlawed like other chemical weapons.

I am a vet and I have seen willie pete work very well where other weapons will not get the enemy out of a particular spot. I have no problem with them and I understand they are "considered" by some to be a chemical weapon, but in war your object is to destroy your enemy and not play political correctness.
So what...bullets cause holes in bodies and they are not illegal in war fare.

the way i see it is dont start the fight if you cannot finish it %*

Venom · Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Posts: 807

Quote: One day...yes. But start with phosphorus weapons.
What day is this? The end of the world or when we upgrade to frickin laser beams for rifles?

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 11646 Location: idaho

Venom wrote: Quote: One day...yes. But start with phosphorus weapons.
What day is this? The end of the world or when we upgrade to frickin laser beams for rifles?

We already got them and they will be useable and battle readuy within 2 years.....then it will get interesting real fast. :lol:

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2665

lilwolf wrote: Venom wrote: Quote: One day...yes. But start with phosphorus weapons.
What day is this? The end of the world or when we upgrade to frickin laser beams for rifles?

We already got them and they will be useable and battle readuy within 2 years.....then it will get interesting real fast. :lol:

shhhhh......dont tell youll have the appeasers trying to otlaw them before i can get my hands on one :wink:

the_doctor · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 353 Location: Sydney

lilwolf wrote: the_doctor wrote: lilwolf wrote: They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

Not the point, illegal or not, war or no war they cause burning to the flesh and should be outlawed like other chemical weapons.

I am a vet and I have seen willie pete work very well where other weapons will not get the enemy out of a particular spot. I have no problem with them and I understand they are "considered" by some to be a chemical weapon, but in war your object is to destroy your enemy and not play political correctness.
So what...bullets cause holes in bodies and they are not illegal in war fare.

At least with shells, the effects would (usually) be less unpleasent. As with phosphorus the burning would have far worse effects than what a bullet or shell could do. Mind you I have to admit that's quite subjective and like been given the choice of a severed limb(s) or burnt flesh.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 11646 Location: idaho

the_doctor wrote: lilwolf wrote: the_doctor wrote: lilwolf wrote: They are not illegal weapons so what is the fuss. They were used but what the hell it is war. No big thing. Ugly weapon yes, but very effective all in all.

Not the point, illegal or not, war or no war they cause burning to the flesh and should be outlawed like other chemical weapons.

I am a vet and I have seen willie pete work very well where other weapons will not get the enemy out of a particular spot. I have no problem with them and I understand they are "considered" by some to be a chemical weapon, but in war your object is to destroy your enemy and not play political correctness.
So what...bullets cause holes in bodies and they are not illegal in war fare.

At least with shells, the effects would (usually) be less unpleasent. As with phosphorus the burning would have far worse effects than what a bullet or shell could do. Mind you I have to admit that's quite subjective and like been given the choice of a severed limb(s) or burnt flesh.

I am going to say it this way. Bullets going into a body make abig mess and many times a person will die from blood loss but in war the very idea is to stop or kill your enemy.
WP is an effective weapon and it caterizes the wound and in the essence of war if you use WP there is what is called in military parlance....crispy critters and the enemy is done. I have not one problem in war using what ever is needed to eliminate the enemy.
Many will say that is crass or rude but in war it is never pleasant nor nice.

the_doctor · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 353 Location: Sydney

Venom wrote: Quote: One day...yes. But start with phosphorus weapons.
What day is this? The end of the world or when we upgrade to frickin laser beams for rifles?

When we've learned to stop fighting each other.

Laser rifles, same thing - would cook flesh.

the_doctor · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 353 Location: Sydney

Quote:
I am going to say it this way. Bullets going into a body make abig mess and many times a person will die from blood loss but in war the very idea is to stop or kill your enemy.
WP is an effective weapon and it caterizes the wound and in the essence of war if you use WP there is what is called in military parlance....crispy critters and the enemy is done. I have not one problem in war using what ever is needed to eliminate the enemy.
Many will say that is crass or rude but in war it is never pleasant nor nice.

I certainly see where you are comming from. I agree war is never pleasant or nice.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 11646 Location: idaho

the_doctor wrote: Venom wrote: Quote: One day...yes. But start with phosphorus weapons.
What day is this? The end of the world or when we upgrade to frickin laser beams for rifles?

When we've learned to stop fighting each other.

Laser rifles, same thing - would cook flesh.

It is human nature to kill each other, for what ever reason that is needed at the time. Mankind is not going to (anytime soon) evolve into something where we stop killing each other....that is a fact.

Laers are okay for combat in my opinion just as much as WP. Problem with lasers is that you still gotta have something to weed and force your enemy out into the open in warfare. And WP seems to fill the bill in my book.