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[MoscowMatt]

Iran 'blocks Israel soldier deal'

Cpl Shalit was captured by Palestinian militants in late June
Israel's ambassador to the UN has accused Iran of paying Hamas $50m to block the release of an Israeli soldier captured by Palestinian militants.
The ambassador in New York, Dan Gillerman, made the claim without giving any further evidence or details.

The payment, which Iran denies making, allegedly went to the head of Hamas' political bureau Khaled Meshaal.

The soldier, Cpl Gilad Shalit, was captured in June in a cross-border raid from Gaza by Palestinian militants.

Israel intensified its military campaign in Gaza following his capture in June, and the strip has been cut off from the outside world for long periods of time.

Hamas, the militant group that runs the Palestinian Authority, says that in return for freeing Cpl Shalit, Israel must release some of the several thousand Palestinians held in its jails.

Since the end of June 2006, more than 300 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli army operations in Gaza and the West Bank, according to Israeli human rights group B'Tselem.

Iran denial

On Thursday, the Israeli daily newspaper Yediot Ahronot reported that a deal on Cpl Shalit's release was foiled when an Iranian delegation met Khaled Meshaal in Damascus and offered him $50m (£26.6m). Mr Meshaal apparently accepted the money and hardened the conditions attached to Cpl Shalit's release.

In an open session on the Middle East at the UN Security Council on Thursday, Mr Gillerman said of the reported payment: "if this is the way in which Iran threatens humanitarian situations, I shudder to think about the lengths to which Iran will go to undermine a diplomatic one, and achieve its dangerous regional aspirations and nightmarish and megalomaniacal dreams of nuclear capability."

He went on to tell reporters at the UN: "We have every reason to believe that the Iranian regime has bribed Khaled Meshaal. I cannot divulge the sources or give you any further details on this."

Mr Gillerman said the aim of the Iranian payment was "to sabotage the negotiations on the release of Corporal Gilad Shalit and prevent his release".

Iranian diplomat Mansour Sadeghi told the council that his government "categorically rejected" the allegations.

BBC news on-line http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6069092.stm

Hardly surprising really. I wonder what else they are up to?

[agentkgb]

BBC wrote: The ambassador in New York, Dan Gillerman, made the claim without giving any further evidence or details.

[bunny]

MoscowMatt wrote: Iran 'blocks Israel soldier deal'

The ambassador in New York, Dan Gillerman, made the claim without giving any further evidence or details.

The payment, which Iran denies making, allegedly went to the head of Hamas' political bureau Khaled Meshaal.



sorry, is your vision a little blurry, or do you not read so well?

[MoscowMatt]

bunny wrote: MoscowMatt wrote: Iran 'blocks Israel soldier deal'

The ambassador in New York, Dan Gillerman, made the claim without giving any further evidence or details.

The payment, which Iran denies making, allegedly went to the head of Hamas' political bureau Khaled Meshaal.



sorry, is your vision a little blurry, or do you not read so well?

Quote: On Thursday, the Israeli daily newspaper Yediot Ahronot reported that a deal on Cpl Shalit's release was foiled when an Iranian delegation met Khaled Meshaal in Damascus and offered him $50m (£26.6m). Mr Meshaal apparently accepted the money and hardened the conditions attached to Cpl Shalit's release.



Nope looks fine to me!! I guess your another one of the Iran are saints brigade!! :roll: :roll:

[Venom]

Bunny
Quote: sorry, is your vision a little blurry, or do you not read so well?
So this article is debunked because Iran denies it? Funny you support an article that is denied, post a generalized attack on a whole country (nevermind the fact that there are some Americans on this board that support you position, yet they are "stupid" under your statement as well) but then bash one that is denied with no backing up of your statement.
Iran's leadership constantly makes hateful speeches about the death of Israel. So I for one find this article believable. I guess Iran doesn't lie, but Israel, the US and the UK do? :lol:


Quote: The state department says Mr Fernandez was quoted incorrectly
Oh yeah thats from your article.

[ALi*]

agentkgb wrote: BBC wrote: The ambassador in New York, Dan Gillerman, made the claim without giving any further evidence or details.

thats the stupidest thing i ever heard.... and they never give evidence just like when they claimed they had video footage of rockets launchers in QANA after the massacre....

[The Comrade]

ALi* wrote:
thats the stupidest thing i ever heard.... and they never give evidence just like when they claimed they had video footage of rockets launchers in QANA after the massacre....

you mean the videos that you can find on youtube?

[lilwolf]

Another indication that (if true) the leader in Iran is a nut case and that he wants to see his people killed in a war.

This guy is a nut and a dangerous one at that.


But I'm sorry the Iranian governement would never do something like that.....yea right :roll:

[lester1/2jr]

yeah muslims are terrible. theres no hope. i guess israel needs to pack up and leave then.

the zionist media has made that point abundently clear. muslims are simply to evil to allow nice jews to live near

[Venom]

{quote]the zionist media has made that point abundently clear. muslims are simply to evil to allow nice jews to live near[/quote]
zionist media... or do you mean world history? Look in history at all the Muslim nations that have attempted to stomp out Israel. I have yet to see Israel launch a military offensive in an attempt to wipe a country out... even Palestine because how hard would that be for all of the IDF to do?


Muslims aren't all evil, just apparently a lot of them in positions of power in the ME.

[lilwolf]

Venom wrote: {quote]the zionist media has made that point abundently clear. muslims are simply to evil to allow nice jews to live near
zionist media... or do you mean world history? Look in history at all the Muslim nations that have attempted to stomp out Israel. I have yet to see Israel launch a military offensive in an attempt to wipe a country out... even Palestine because how hard would that be for all of the IDF to do?


Muslims aren't all evil, just apparently a lot of them in positions of power in the ME.[/quote]


It would not be as hard as you might think to eliminate palestine by the IDF....do some real good research and given the IDF's experience they could do it in nothing flat and spend a couple of months doing the clean up work.

[bunny]

lilwolf wrote: [

It would not be as hard as you might think to eliminate palestine by the IDF....do some real good research and given the IDF's experience they could do it in nothing flat and spend a couple of months doing the clean up work.




You're not suggesting genocide are you?

[The Comrade]

bunny wrote:



You're not suggesting genocide are you?

loaded statement.

Stop trying to evoke emotional responses from people.


you and i both know lilwolf was merely saying that if the IDF was hellbent on destroying a country, palestine wouldn't be a problem.

[bunny]

The Comrade wrote: bunny wrote:



You're not suggesting genocide are you?

loaded statement.

Stop trying to evoke emotional responses from people.


you and i both know lilwolf was merely saying that if the IDF was hellbent on destroying a country, palestine wouldn't be a problem.


I don't know anything about what he intended to say, and judging by some of the trash i read around here, from people of a certian ilk, i find the question appropriate.


btw, it was a question, not a statement.

[The Newb]

bunny wrote: The Comrade wrote: bunny wrote:



You're not suggesting genocide are you?

loaded statement.

Stop trying to evoke emotional responses from people.


you and i both know lilwolf was merely saying that if the IDF was hellbent on destroying a country, palestine wouldn't be a problem.


I don't know anything about what he intended to say, and judging by some of the trash i read around here, from people of a certian ilk, i find the question appropriate.


btw, it was a question, not a statement.

trash ilk but whom do you mean?

[lilwolf]

bunny wrote: The Comrade wrote: bunny wrote:



You're not suggesting genocide are you?

loaded statement.

Stop trying to evoke emotional responses from people.


you and i both know lilwolf was merely saying that if the IDF was hellbent on destroying a country, palestine wouldn't be a problem.


I don't know anything about what he intended to say, and judging by some of the trash i read around here, from people of a certian ilk, i find the question appropriate.


There is nothing intended and nothing that you said that is worth a reply...so good bye bunny.
Iam not going to allow myself to get caught up in your useless tirade and ignorant remarks. Have a nice evening :lol:

[The Comrade]

bunny wrote:

I don't know anything about what he intended to say, and judging by some of the trash i read around here, from people of a certian ilk, i find the question appropriate.

your question was not appropriate. asking someone if they're championing genocide is merely baiting and using loaded statements AND questions.

[bunny]

The Comrade wrote: bunny wrote:

I don't know anything about what he intended to say, and judging by some of the trash i read around here, from people of a certian ilk, i find the question appropriate.

your question was not appropriate. asking someone if they're championing genocide is merely baiting and using loaded statements AND questions.

Well, when when someone who posts pix of nuclear clouds & constantly champions torture & the death of the USA constitution, goes around saying silly & ridiculous things about whipping out Palestine via the Jewish state, which he may or may not have a tie to, it is a fair and reasonable question to ask.

note: I wasn't asking YOU, but I'm sorry you're so sensitive, and obviously, from my short experience here, easily offended.

[The Newb]

click here to see where this came from

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that is what comrade was refering to

[The Comrade]

bunny wrote:
Well, when when someone who posts pix of nuclear clouds & constantly champions torture & the death of the USA constitution, goes around saying silly & ridiculous things about whipping out Palestine via the Jewish state, which he may or may not have a tie to, it is a fair and reasonable question to ask.
and lilwolf has championed none of those things you mentioned, so your question is completely irrelevant.

bunny wrote:
note: I wasn't asking YOU, but I'm sorry you're so sensitive, and obviously, from my short experience here, easily offended.

offended? sensitive?

no my friend, it's called leading the stray sheep back to the flock. my job is to take the logic defunct and set them back on course.

but you were close.