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[DSwain]

Fido wrote: philm wrote: My own theory is that the Irish Question was a big factor.
When a small nation like the Irish asserted their independance, terretories with far larger populations - India etc, began to realize that the British Raj was not omnipotent the demise of Britainia was inevitable.
The World Wars dealt the death blow but the seeds of destruction had already been sown.
Perhaps the British Empire should have copied Rome by admitting Colonials to the House of Commons?
Welcome all opinions/theories.

I do not believe they did, but rather decided to take the path of controlling others through economics rather than military strength. Lenin was good for pointing out how expensive imperialism was to the imperialists, and how much of that price was borne by the domestic working class. But regardless, in the case of England, their capital took flight, and America became the world's cop, so they got off from under. I should remark how much two world wars broke the country, but that part was easy enough to load onto working people. But in a country which had little to export except a form of government and corrugated steel sheeting, what is the reason for selling at the point of a gun? When they could no longer justify the brutality it took to hold the empire together- to themselves and the world they were done. It was a very loose empire to begin with. All the little kings got to keep their crowns, which reminds me of a funny story.

Ever heard of the Industrial Revolution?

[Fido]

DSwain wrote: Fido wrote: philm wrote: My own theory is that the Irish Question was a big factor.
When a small nation like the Irish asserted their independance, terretories with far larger populations - India etc, began to realize that the British Raj was not omnipotent the demise of Britainia was inevitable.
The World Wars dealt the death blow but the seeds of destruction had already been sown.
Perhaps the British Empire should have copied Rome by admitting Colonials to the House of Commons?
Welcome all opinions/theories.

I do not believe they did, but rather decided to take the path of controlling others through economics rather than military strength. Lenin was good for pointing out how expensive imperialism was to the imperialists, and how much of that price was borne by the domestic working class. But regardless, in the case of England, their capital took flight, and America became the world's cop, so they got off from under. I should remark how much two world wars broke the country, but that part was easy enough to load onto working people. But in a country which had little to export except a form of government and corrugated steel sheeting, what is the reason for selling at the point of a gun? When they could no longer justify the brutality it took to hold the empire together- to themselves and the world they were done. It was a very loose empire to begin with. All the little kings got to keep their crowns, which reminds me of a funny story.

Ever heard of the Industrial Revolution?

Ever read Das Capital?

[thundertaker]

Fido wrote: DSwain wrote: Fido wrote: philm wrote: My own theory is that the Irish Question was a big factor.
When a small nation like the Irish asserted their independance, terretories with far larger populations - India etc, began to realize that the British Raj was not omnipotent the demise of Britainia was inevitable.
The World Wars dealt the death blow but the seeds of destruction had already been sown.
Perhaps the British Empire should have copied Rome by admitting Colonials to the House of Commons?
Welcome all opinions/theories.

I do not believe they did, but rather decided to take the path of controlling others through economics rather than military strength. Lenin was good for pointing out how expensive imperialism was to the imperialists, and how much of that price was borne by the domestic working class. But regardless, in the case of England, their capital took flight, and America became the world's cop, so they got off from under. I should remark how much two world wars broke the country, but that part was easy enough to load onto working people. But in a country which had little to export except a form of government and corrugated steel sheeting, what is the reason for selling at the point of a gun? When they could no longer justify the brutality it took to hold the empire together- to themselves and the world they were done. It was a very loose empire to begin with. All the little kings got to keep their crowns, which reminds me of a funny story.

Ever heard of the Industrial Revolution?

Ever read Das Capital?

LOL, don't tell me you're a marxist. Event Marx himself acknowledged that Britain was responsible for the birth of modern capitalist society.....

[DSwain]

Fido wrote: DSwain wrote: Fido wrote: philm wrote: My own theory is that the Irish Question was a big factor.
When a small nation like the Irish asserted their independance, terretories with far larger populations - India etc, began to realize that the British Raj was not omnipotent the demise of Britainia was inevitable.
The World Wars dealt the death blow but the seeds of destruction had already been sown.
Perhaps the British Empire should have copied Rome by admitting Colonials to the House of Commons?
Welcome all opinions/theories.

I do not believe they did, but rather decided to take the path of controlling others through economics rather than military strength. Lenin was good for pointing out how expensive imperialism was to the imperialists, and how much of that price was borne by the domestic working class. But regardless, in the case of England, their capital took flight, and America became the world's cop, so they got off from under. I should remark how much two world wars broke the country, but that part was easy enough to load onto working people. But in a country which had little to export except a form of government and corrugated steel sheeting, what is the reason for selling at the point of a gun? When they could no longer justify the brutality it took to hold the empire together- to themselves and the world they were done. It was a very loose empire to begin with. All the little kings got to keep their crowns, which reminds me of a funny story.

Ever heard of the Industrial Revolution?

Ever read Das Capital?

Is this an answer?

[mortthewiz]

once they lost india they lost everything