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DSwain · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 3552

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Jeremy Dear, head of the British National Union of Journalists, has acted to spike an article in the British tabloid 'The Daily Star', which was meant to be a 'mock up' of what the newspaper would look like under Sharia law. This included a competition to "Burn a flag - win a Vauxhall Corsa" and a picture of a woman in full burkha as a 'pin-up'.

The NUJ is supposed to be there to protect the interests and freedoms of its members - yet it now seems to want to stifle any news with which it disagrees.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12156 Location: idaho

Some of it might be that there is so much hostility around right now with the ME people in the UK that they got scared.

Might also be that the UK is losing a sense of whos in charge and who really runs your nation....Clear to me that with all the trouble that has been happeneing there with the ME people they are all scared of ramifications/

The usual trying to be PC for people that refuse to integrate into the west.

Ssushi · Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 6224

DSwain wrote: http://www.nuj.org.uk/index.php

Jeremy Dear, head of the British National Union of Journalists, has acted to spike an article in the British tabloid 'The Daily Star', which was meant to be a 'mock up' of what the newspaper would look like under Sharia law. This included a competition to "Burn a flag - win a Vauxhall Corsa" and a picture of a woman in full burkha as a 'pin-up'.

The NUJ is supposed to be there to protect the interests and freedoms of its members - yet it now seems to want to stifle any news with which it disagrees.

Although I do not support the country bending over to accomodate other belief sets, I think this is quite right. The Daily Star is a comic not a newspaper and frankly this is not news. It's ****, for the simple minded idiots who read it. Plain and simple. Honestly, how do they think people will respond?

DSwain · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 3552

Ssushi wrote: DSwain wrote: http://www.nuj.org.uk/index.php

Jeremy Dear, head of the British National Union of Journalists, has acted to spike an article in the British tabloid 'The Daily Star', which was meant to be a 'mock up' of what the newspaper would look like under Sharia law. This included a competition to "Burn a flag - win a Vauxhall Corsa" and a picture of a woman in full burkha as a 'pin-up'.

The NUJ is supposed to be there to protect the interests and freedoms of its members - yet it now seems to want to stifle any news with which it disagrees.

Although I do not support the country bending over to accomodate other belief sets, I think this is quite right. The Daily Star is a comic not a newspaper and frankly this is not news. It's ****, for the simple minded idiots who read it. Plain and simple. Honestly, how do they think people will respond?

I'd say calling the Star a comic is an insult to comics. But that isn't the point; if NUJ members were being obstructed from writing a story by an overtly political editorial policy, then Jeremy Dear and his fellows would be all over it screaming about freedom of the press. Just because this particular coverage doesn't fit in with the NUJ's political outlook, it gets spiked.

Snake · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 21776 Location: e-Thuggin

You know what? If the muslims would just develop a sense of humor, and let it slide, mabey people will decrease making fun of them. I think the riots and flag burnings only contribute to this kind of shi'ite. Oh snap! a muslim joke. I hope I get a cool effigy . :lol:

Ssushi · Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 6224

Kamel wrote: You know what? If the muslims would just develop a sense of humor, and let it slide, mabey people will decrease making fun of them. I think the riots and flag burnings only contribute to this kind of shi'ite. Oh snap! a muslim joke. I hope I get a cool effigy . :lol:

Now traul through the anti-Bush threads on this forum and read the american responses from people simply fed up with anti-US government rhetoric. Most of them know that Bush is a fool but have had enough of their government being slated day in, day out...

It's isn't just the muslims who get worn down by this type of thing...

Ssushi · Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 6224

DSwain wrote: Ssushi wrote: DSwain wrote: http://www.nuj.org.uk/index.php

Jeremy Dear, head of the British National Union of Journalists, has acted to spike an article in the British tabloid 'The Daily Star', which was meant to be a 'mock up' of what the newspaper would look like under Sharia law. This included a competition to "Burn a flag - win a Vauxhall Corsa" and a picture of a woman in full burkha as a 'pin-up'.

The NUJ is supposed to be there to protect the interests and freedoms of its members - yet it now seems to want to stifle any news with which it disagrees.

Although I do not support the country bending over to accomodate other belief sets, I think this is quite right. The Daily Star is a comic not a newspaper and frankly this is not news. It's ****, for the simple minded idiots who read it. Plain and simple. Honestly, how do they think people will respond?

I'd say calling the Star a comic is an insult to comics. But that isn't the point; if NUJ members were being obstructed from writing a story by an overtly political editorial policy, then Jeremy Dear and his fellows would be all over it screaming about freedom of the press. Just because this particular coverage doesn't fit in with the NUJ's political outlook, it gets spiked.

I agree but this story should not be published and I believe that the union has acted well in this case, so as to put pressure on the Star not to publish.

It would be different if it was an actual news story, which would cause problems, then they have the ethical right to publish - but it wasn't. It was a piece designed to poke fun at the muslims and make while people laugh and some scared of muslims...

Snake · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 21776 Location: e-Thuggin

Ssushi wrote: Now traul through the anti-Bush threads on this forum and read the american responses from people simply fed up with anti-US government rhetoric. Most of them know that Bush is a fool but have had enough of their government being slated day in, day out...

It's isn't just the muslims who get worn down by this type of thing...

I do, look at the anti France, anti English, anti any other country statments and look at those peoples responses. An internet forum is hardly a place to draw conclutions. And appearently neither is the tv. All I was saying is that the people that are heading the riots and the death to America statements need to chill the f*ck out.

wyldejackyl · Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 7167 Location: Chicago, IL

Right on. You say that we complain about bush and people complain about being anti american (even though they are in the US). Complaining on the internet and causing tons of violence are two different things. These heathens see a set of comics over in europe (was it the Dutch that did that), and instead of snickering at the own image they've created FOR THEMSELVES (we didn't make them blow people up, or cut off heads), or at the very most saying they are unhappy with that...

Instead they DEMAND that the comics be removed because they are "demeaning" start riots and proclaim "death to america." Well you know what? If you are going to stifle our freedom of speech, we're going to stifle yours. You demand we remove our parodies of your whacked-out religion..and we'll go ahead and do it for you. Then remove YOU from OUR country.

Why is there such a double standard? It fits in with the old, "You can make fun of white people in a black neighborhood, but the second you say a black joke and someone overhears it..you're a racist and will be put on the pyre" routine. Maybe if people stopped taking things so personally, they could focus on what really matters.

TNBiologist · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 962 Location: Tennessee

Ssushi wrote: Although I do not support the country bending over to accomodate other belief sets, I think this is quite right. The Daily Star is a comic not a newspaper and frankly this is not news. It's ****, for the simple minded idiots who read it. Plain and simple. Honestly, how do they think people will respond?

This goes to the core problem with both the "PC" culture and someof the muslin culture. Even though you may not like what the paper prints and think of it as a comic or trash, the paper has a right to print it at least in the western world. I am not like what papers print about America or its leadership but I am not going to try to censor them which it what has happened here. Someone was going to get upset so the paper got censored. Its Bullsh*t.

maxtsu · Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 1851 Location: European Union

DSwain wrote: I'd say calling the Star a comic is an insult to comics.
:lol:

Lumina · Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 15051

DSwain wrote: Ssushi wrote: DSwain wrote: http://www.nuj.org.uk/index.php

Jeremy Dear, head of the British National Union of Journalists, has acted to spike an article in the British tabloid 'The Daily Star', which was meant to be a 'mock up' of what the newspaper would look like under Sharia law. This included a competition to "Burn a flag - win a Vauxhall Corsa" and a picture of a woman in full burkha as a 'pin-up'.

The NUJ is supposed to be there to protect the interests and freedoms of its members - yet it now seems to want to stifle any news with which it disagrees.

Although I do not support the country bending over to accomodate other belief sets, I think this is quite right. The Daily Star is a comic not a newspaper and frankly this is not news. It's ****, for the simple minded idiots who read it. Plain and simple. Honestly, how do they think people will respond?

I'd say calling the Star a comic is an insult to comics. But that isn't the point; if NUJ members were being obstructed from writing a story by an overtly political editorial policy, then Jeremy Dear and his fellows would be all over it screaming about freedom of the press. Just because this particular coverage doesn't fit in with the NUJ's political outlook, it gets spiked.

Good call. Can we all spell h-y-p-c-r-i-sy?

I'm thinking of the "SNL" character Emily Litella (played by Gilda Radner) and (re Presidential "erections" and the "steak" of the union and etc. ) her "Well, THAT is very different! Very different! Never mind!"

Limey Boosk · Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 183 Location: Yorkshire, England

Don't knock the Daily Star. It is a bit comical, but try googling 'Lucy Pinder'. Boooinggg!

If the muslims have their way, page 3 birds would have a veil on in the future and we would all be getting bagdad chubbies at the sight of a nudey elbow.

If I had a newspaper, I would put that picture of mohammed with a bomb on his swede on the front page, then underneath 'If you don't like it, go HOME'. Long live freedom of speech and having the balls to stick two fingers up at sexually frustrated muslims who think sex is sticking a cotton bud in a camels ear.

Good on the Star. Bad for not running with it.