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MulliganAl · Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 317 Location: Hot-Lanta

Quote: ......They showed that anyone who gets access to the machine and its memory card for literally a minute or two could easily install the group's invisible vote-stealing software on the machine. (Poll workers and others have unsupervised access for much longer periods.) Changing all logs, counters, and associated records to reflect the bogus vote count that it generates, the software installed by the infected memory card (similar to a floppy disk) would be undetectable. In fact, the software would delete itself at the end of Election Day.

[list=]http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2507434&page=1[/list]

Snake · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject:

I don't like them. I liked the original paper ballots a lot better, untill the retarded CHAD thing came up. lol, pregnant CHAD.......

Marzelvane · Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 93

as long as they vote Republican I trust them.

agentkgb · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: US

No. I heard that one in Oklahoma counted backwards, for one thing.

puffin · Joined: 24 Jun 2006 Posts: 1077

Mulligan,
It's so wonderful to see a LIB already trying to explain AGAIN why/how the LIBs lost the election BEFORE it happened.
IF the Libs win are you going to post how wonderful the machines are??????????????????
You Bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zombie3785 · Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 457 Location: St. Louis, MO

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
-Josef Stalin

MulliganAl · Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 317 Location: Hot-Lanta

puffin wrote: Mulligan, It's so wonderful to see a LIB already trying to explain AGAIN why/how the LIBs lost the election BEFORE it happened.
IF the Libs win are you going to post how wonderful the machines are??????????????????
You Bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First off, I'm a pretty moderate kinda' guy; I’d probably agree with the right (not the extreme right) on more issues then you’d think. Second I don't like electronic voting machines no matter who wins or loses. I think we should give people more time to cast votes, and give sufficient time to count votes. We should be allowed to vote over a two day period, or over the weekend.

I don’t mind instant rice, but I don’t need instant elections.

Technology definitely has its place, but in elections there should be little room for doubt after the decisions are announced.

agentkgb · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: US

MulliganAl wrote: First off, I'm a pretty moderate kinda' guy; I’d probably agree with the right (not the extreme right) on more issues then you’d think. Second I don't like electronic voting machines no matter who wins or loses. I think we should give people more time to cast votes, and give sufficient time to count votes. We should be allowed to vote over a two day period, or over the weekend.

I don’t mind instant rice, but I don’t need instant elections.

Technology definitely has its place, but in elections there should be little room for doubt after the decisions are announced.
:tu:

L337SIMBA · Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 980 Location: Ottawa.

I think I would trust them...although I'm a bit undecided. In Canada we use the paper ones :P

nandan

agentkgb · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: US

n2ds wrote: I think I would trust them...although I'm a bit undecided. In Canada we use the paper ones :P
:( No fair.
Well, actually, more likely to be fair, but you know what I mean. I want paper ballots. :(

Snake · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject:

They still exist in America, just follow the instructions, or it won't be counted.

Cal-Pak · Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 1968

i was just thinking, why would it be so hard to have a piece of paper that said "I voted for this person" attached to the machine when you voted. Which I understand many do not.

Than I thought "If the machine can add a vote to whoever it want's, whether you voted for them or not( ie:voter fraud) who's to say the paper wouldn't show the same as the vote counted, not necessarily the vote cast?

This is why I'm glad my voter card has an arrow that I connect, next to the person I want to vote for.

Like this.

<- - Joe smith
<----- John Doe

See, I voted for John Doe, so I completed the Arrow, and the machine counts it, I guess :?

Samantha · Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject:

How can you trust Diebold when the CEO proclaims he will make sure Bush wins in the 2004 election?

Angelicus · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 5145

No I don't trust paperless ballots.

Give me back my paper one's hanging chads and all.

agentkgb · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: US

Samantha wrote: How can you trust Diebold when the CEO proclaims he will make sure Bush wins in the 2004 election?
Well, you can trust him to make sure Bush wins.
You can't trust him to give you accurate voting results though.

Lumina · Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 18288

I trust the electronic machines. So far they've worked well where I vote. I really liked the paper ballots, but when people are unable to align a piece of paper with two holes on the little red buttons and then correctly use a metal stylus to punch holes....

agentkgb · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: US

Lumina wrote: I trust the electronic machines. So far they've worked well where I vote. I really liked the paper ballots, but when people are unable to align a piece of paper with two holes on the little red buttons and then correctly use a metal stylus to punch holes....
Then they shouldn't be voting! :evil:
No I'm just joking. Paper ballots should always be an option though, and a reasonable option too. It's no good for a district to put one booth where you can use paper and have a line down the block.

Lumina · Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 18288

agentkgb wrote: Lumina wrote: I trust the electronic machines. So far they've worked well where I vote. I really liked the paper ballots, but when people are unable to align a piece of paper with two holes on the little red buttons and then correctly use a metal stylus to punch holes....
Then they shouldn't be voting! :evil:
No I'm just joking. Paper ballots should always be an option though, and a reasonable option too. It's no good for a district to put one booth where you can use paper and have a line down the block.

I'd think the paper ballots would be far easier for, say, the elderly, to use, but Florida proved this to be untrue.

Superfly · Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 5243 Location: Tornado Alley

I wouldn't trust those machines as far as I could pick one up and throw it.

Samantha · Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject:

Where I vote we use a black marker and fill in the circles. Like an SAT test. Simple. It works fine. It's paper.