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[psholtz]

Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.
Most of the people who feel this way are not "liberals", they are hard right-wing conservatives..

Huh?
You heard me..

I don't know any conservatives who are not furious w/ Bush..

[Snake]

I do, I know a lot of them. It's the lefties that are super pissed.

[Rhoades]

Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.
Most of the people who feel this way are not "liberals", they are hard right-wing conservatives..

Huh?
You are not a right wing conservative, you are a neo-con. Neo cons are trotskyists.

[Patriarch]

psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.
Most of the people who feel this way are not "liberals", they are hard right-wing conservatives..

Huh?
You heard me..

I don't know any conservatives who are not furious w/ Bush..

Sure some are mad at Bush for not being conservative enough, but how many think 9-11 was part of a conspiracy???

[Mighty Oak]

Kamel wrote: I do, I know a lot of them. It's the lefties that are super pissed. Whoever is not completely,unequivocally furious with this administration must be a boot licking,Nazi loving,fascist pig,or one hell-of-a misguided individual.

[Snake]

Mighty Oak wrote: Whoever is not completely,unequivocally furious with this administration must be a boot licking,Nazi loving,fascist pig,or one hell-of-a misguided individual. :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :rofl:

How does it feel to be a victim of irony?

Isn't that the same "you're either with us or you're against us" attitude you morons use as an excuse to hate Bush?

[psholtz]

Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.
Most of the people who feel this way are not "liberals", they are hard right-wing conservatives..

Huh?
You heard me..

I don't know any conservatives who are not furious w/ Bush..

Sure some are mad at Bush for not being conservative enough, but how many think 9-11 was part of a conspiracy???
Many of them.. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, senior Fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, member of President Reagan's cabinet and father of Reaganomics, is one "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11.. Dr. Bob Bowman, who flew 101 combat missions over Vietnam, father of the "Star Wars" missile defense system, corporate executive at General Dynamics in San Diego, Archbishop of the United Catholic Church (Catholic theology, unconnected w/ the Vatican) is another such "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11..

You'll find many others if you continue digging..

[justpassingthrough]

Patriarch wrote: Apparently 1/3 of Americans are have lost their minds. They feel that the our own government had something to do with 9-11. They actually think that Dick Cheney or George W. Bush were in some ways behind the attacks. Even though Osama and Al Qaeda have claimed responsibility numerous times they still doubt it. I mean how more obvious could they make it?

This rhetoric is outrages and reckless. It defames everyone who died on Sept. 11. It degrades our troops who are out there fighting Islamo Fascism as we speak. Liberals in this countries have actually convince people that the Bush admin. and America in general are so evil that they decided to kill 3,000 Americans for political gain. How dumb are these people?

How do these "conspiracy theorists" account for the bombings of the Colbert towers, the Bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Africa, The bombing of the USS coal, Countless Al Qaeda attacks in Iraq/Afghanistan. Was that Bush as well? Was that American assisted too?

They're are conspiracy theories for everything. Like the moon landings were fake. Or how FDR ordered Pearl Harbor so America could enter WW2. Dumb people come along and try to convince other dumb people using baseless facts, circumstantial evidence, and just hunches.

This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.

http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

Someone really needs to point out why I should believe in the official story, the only one I've discovered so far is simply:

'Just 'cause, you know.........terrorists are evil, they want to take away our freedoms and liberties.....they're crazy.'

Everybody out there, if that's the only reason you believe the official version, you might want to investigate a little rumor I heard that there is no entry for 'gullible' in the Oxford dictionary. Check it out.

[Snake]

Oxford dictionary? There's no such thing, check your facts, it's a lie.

[jeechoscopy]

MG1962 wrote: Quote: agentkgb wrote:
CatStevens wrote:
Our own government has not indicted Bin Laden in the attacks.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

That is weird, the FBI page on 9/11 doesn't mention bin Laden.
I think al-Qaeda did it though. There's certainly a lot the government hasn't explained but I doubt it was responsible.


What have they not explained?

Well for mine, I think there was some intelligence failures. I believe between them, all the agencies had enough information to possibly stop the attacks. And I feel some of those agencies may have tried to hide that failure a little (or individuals with in them anyway)

How much spent for intelligence agencies in America before 9/11?
Isn't more than $40 billion a year?
Scraped or...
Revenue of PNAC?

[Revenant]

The correct answer is Kyle. However the least wrong answer is GW.

[Snake]

Or Clinton, who had the chance to take out OBL and dropped the ball.....

[Patriarch]

psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.
Most of the people who feel this way are not "liberals", they are hard right-wing conservatives..

Huh?
You heard me..

I don't know any conservatives who are not furious w/ Bush..

Sure some are mad at Bush for not being conservative enough, but how many think 9-11 was part of a conspiracy???
Many of them.. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, senior Fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, member of President Reagan's cabinet and father of Reaganomics, is one "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11.. Dr. Bob Bowman, who flew 101 combat missions over Vietnam, father of the "Star Wars" missile defense system, corporate executive at General Dynamics in San Diego, Archbishop of the United Catholic Church (Catholic theology, unconnected w/ the Vatican) is another such "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11..

You'll find many others if you continue digging..

Wow you found 2 in the entire US. And You have no links so I don't even know if they are true.

[psholtz]

Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.
Most of the people who feel this way are not "liberals", they are hard right-wing conservatives..

Huh?
You heard me..

I don't know any conservatives who are not furious w/ Bush..

Sure some are mad at Bush for not being conservative enough, but how many think 9-11 was part of a conspiracy???
Many of them.. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, senior Fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, member of President Reagan's cabinet and father of Reaganomics, is one "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11.. Dr. Bob Bowman, who flew 101 combat missions over Vietnam, father of the "Star Wars" missile defense system, corporate executive at General Dynamics in San Diego, Archbishop of the United Catholic Church (Catholic theology, unconnected w/ the Vatican) is another such "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11..

You'll find many others if you continue digging..

Wow you found 2 in the entire US.
Two is enough for now.

I'm not sure you'd be able to handle more if I sent them your way.

Quote: And You have no links so I don't even know if they are true.
This is, of course, why much of your belief structure is shaped by lies and half-truths.. you're too lazy to go out and do even the most basic research for yourself, relying on others to do for you, what you should be doing for yourself.

America was never intended for such people.

[jeechoscopy]

I love this site... induge yourself:

How Conspiracy Theories work wrote: Are you the kind of person who likes to hear to a good conspiracy theory?
Some people simply do not like the discomfort that a conspiracy theory creates. But for others, conspiracy theories are intriguing. They like to explore all of the possibilities that a conspiracy theory presents, in the same way that they like to explore puzzles or mystery novels. Sometimes a conspiracy theory is ridiculous and learning about it is a form of entertainment. Or you may find that the theory is credible and it makes you think. It's interesting to consider the theory, weigh the evidence and come up with a conclusion.

In the 21st century, one event reigns supreme in the catalog of conspiracy theories: the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States. This event is seared into the nation's consciousness and significantly affected the entire planet. It seems inevitable that people would cry "conspiracy" about any event with this much impact. However, the conspiracy theories around 9/11 have been strong and consistent.

[Patriarch]

jeechoscopy wrote: I love this site... induge yourself:

How Conspiracy Theories work wrote: Are you the kind of person who likes to hear to a good conspiracy theory?
Some people simply do not like the discomfort that a conspiracy theory creates. But for others, conspiracy theories are intriguing. They like to explore all of the possibilities that a conspiracy theory presents, in the same way that they like to explore puzzles or mystery novels. Sometimes a conspiracy theory is ridiculous and learning about it is a form of entertainment. Or you may find that the theory is credible and it makes you think. It's interesting to consider the theory, weigh the evidence and come up with a conclusion.

In the 21st century, one event reigns supreme in the catalog of conspiracy theories: the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States. This event is seared into the nation's consciousness and significantly affected the entire planet. It seems inevitable that people would cry "conspiracy" about any event with this much impact. However, the conspiracy theories around 9/11 have been strong and consistent.

Well to answer the first Q of that site, NO. So I probable won't be going.

[Patriarch]

psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriarch wrote: This is why I now agree with Sean Hannity when he says we need to defeat Liberalism. I used to think he was going to far but when I see Libs blaming our own Govt. for 9-11 that is too far.
Most of the people who feel this way are not "liberals", they are hard right-wing conservatives..

Huh?
You heard me..

I don't know any conservatives who are not furious w/ Bush..

Sure some are mad at Bush for not being conservative enough, but how many think 9-11 was part of a conspiracy???
Many of them.. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, senior Fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, member of President Reagan's cabinet and father of Reaganomics, is one "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11.. Dr. Bob Bowman, who flew 101 combat missions over Vietnam, father of the "Star Wars" missile defense system, corporate executive at General Dynamics in San Diego, Archbishop of the United Catholic Church (Catholic theology, unconnected w/ the Vatican) is another such "conservative" who believes that the Bush administration was behind 9/11..

You'll find many others if you continue digging..

Wow you found 2 in the entire US.
Two is enough for now.

I'm not sure you'd be able to handle more if I sent them your way.

Quote: And You have no links so I don't even know if they are true.
This is, of course, why much of your belief structure is shaped by lies and half-truths.. you're too lazy to go out and do even the most basic research for yourself, relying on others to do for you, what you should be doing for yourself.

America was never intended for such people.

Once again I have no idea what your talking about. I noticed that you have 'Anti-conspiracy nut' as your signature, so why are you disagreeing with me? If you have something like that aren't you against dumb conspiracies???

[psholtz]

Patriarch wrote: Once again I have no idea what your talking about.
I'm hardly surprised..

Quote: I noticed that you have 'Anti-conspiracy nut' as your signature
That's correct..

I utterly hate conspiracy theories..

Quote: so why are you disagreeing with me? If you have something like that aren't you against dumb conspiracies???
I am against dumb conspiracy theories... the dumbest I know of being the ones spun by the government in Washington, and it is against these (absurd) conspiracy theories that I war against.

You know ... like the conspiracy theory that 19 hijackers flew 4 planes into skyscrapers, etc on 9/11.. I *hate* that conspiracy theory.. it's utterly absurd.

[Wizard From Oz]

Quote: You know ... like the conspiracy theory that 19 hijackers flew 4 planes into skyscrapers, etc on 9/11.. I *hate* that conspiracy theory.. it's utterly absurd.

And why exactly is that? - Why is it so hard to believe that a highly motivated group of indivduals managed to blind side the mighty USA

[psholtz]

MG1962 wrote: Quote: You know ... like the conspiracy theory that 19 hijackers flew 4 planes into skyscrapers, etc on 9/11.. I *hate* that conspiracy theory.. it's utterly absurd.

And why exactly is that? - Why is it so hard to believe that a highly motivated group of indivduals managed to blind side the mighty USA
Why is that question even relevant to anything?

It's not..