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Nazi Tactics by Israel and America in the Phony War On Terror
By Joel Fischer



Quote: 10/02/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- As a Jew who witnessed the loss of 6,000,000 of my fellow Jews, most likely including members of my own extended family who were still in Europe, in the brutal Nazi slaughter of the Holocaust, I believe I know Nazi tactics when I see them. Because of this deeply personal history, I am sickened by the Nazi-like tactics being used by the Israelis in Gaza and Lebanon. These tactics are fully supported by the Bush administration as legitimate attempts at "self defense" against the alleged incursions by Palestinian and Hezbollah guerillas. This collusion between the US and the Israelis is so similar to the Axis Powers of World War II that I believe they constitute a new "Axis OF Powers" for the 21st Century. This Axis links Israel, the most militaristic country in the Middle East, with the United States, the most militaristic country in the world, in a quest to dominate, intimidate and develop their hegemony over other countries.

So, what are these Nazi-like tactics being used by the new Axis of Powers?

TERROR BOMBINGS; CONDUCTING A BRUTAL WAR AGAINST CIVILIANS.

The "shock and awe" bombing strategy used by the US and Israel are simply another name for the brutal bombings of civilian populations used by the Nazis in World War II. The current horrific wars against innocent men, women and children are geared toward intimidation, terror and fear among the civilian population in a depraved attempt to get them to pressure their own regime to submit, abdicate or surrender. The Axis even goes so far as to deliberately and brutally target infrastructure such as power plants and even supply routes bringing food and medicine to civilians, in an effort to make life indescribably more horrible for innocent civilians. In fact, Amnesty International has accused Israel of war crimes stating that Israel broke international law by deliberately destroying LEBANON'S (not Hezbollah's) civilian infrastructure! These are the war strategies the US used in Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel is using in Palestine and Lebanon. Tens of thousands of innocent people have been killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine by these Nazi-like tactics by Israel and America.

The US and Israel don't stop with terror bombings. Invading other countries illegally, they then continue to intimidate the civilian populations by illegal and unethical searches of peoples' homes, dragging men and sometimes women into the street hooded and trussed up like animals. Nothing can be more humiliating....

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15185.htm

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[The Comrade]

yeah terrorbombings.



did you hear about how an IDF private walked onto a palestinian bus and blew himself up?

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: yeah terrorbombings.



did you hear about how an IDF private walked onto a palestinian bus and blew himself up?
Why would he do that when he has perfectly good cluster bombs? Or rather, ancient cluster bombs that leave unexploded bomblets for small children to find?

[The Comrade]

agentkgb wrote:
Why would he do that when he has perfectly good cluster bombs? Or rather, ancient cluster bombs that leave unexploded bomblets for small children to find?


you're right israel intentionally wanted those bombs not to blow up. it's all part of t3h j00s global domination plot.


oh, and stop using loaded statements I.E. specifically mentioning children.

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: agentkgb wrote:
Why would he do that when he has perfectly good cluster bombs? Or rather, ancient cluster bombs that leave unexploded bomblets for small children to find?


you're right israel intentionally wanted those bombs not to blow up. it's all part of t3h j00s global domination plot.
I'm saying they have plenty of modern technology and didn't have to use cluster bombs from 1974 to kill terrorists. There were failure rates of up to 30%.
The Comrade wrote: oh, and stop using loaded statements I.E. specifically mentioning children.
Children are more likely to pick up unexploded bomblets than adults, and small children are more likely to than older children.

[The Comrade]

agentkgb wrote:
I'm saying they have plenty of modern technology and didn't have to use cluster bombs from 1974 to kill terrorists. There were failure rates of up to 30%.

cluster bombs are more effective for killing a spread out enemy.

use a cluster bomb instead of three or four 500 pound bombs. it aves money and time.

agentkgb wrote: Children are more likely to pick up unexploded bomblets than adults, and small children are more likely to than older children.

it's a loaded statement meant to get an emotional response.

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: agentkgb wrote:
I'm saying they have plenty of modern technology and didn't have to use cluster bombs from 1974 to kill terrorists. There were failure rates of up to 30%.

cluster bombs are more effective for killing a spread out enemy.

use a cluster bomb instead of three or four 500 pound bombs. it aves money and time.
But not lives. It's easy to miss with a cluster bomb and they kill civilians.

[The Comrade]

agentkgb wrote:
But not lives. It's easy to miss with a cluster bomb and they kill civilians.

considering they're guided munitions i would say it's hard to miss.


and they didn't cluster bomb cities. if they had there would be no cities. they used them in the desert or rural areas.

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: agentkgb wrote:
But not lives. It's easy to miss with a cluster bomb and they kill civilians.

considering they're guided munitions i would say it's hard to miss.
They're cluster bombs. Not all of them will be on target or even close.
The Comrade wrote: and they didn't cluster bomb cities. if they had there would be no cities. they used them in the desert or rural areas.
There were tens of thousands of unexploded bomblets all over Southern Lebanon. They didn't cluster bomb Beirut but it's not like they avoided bombing places where people were.

[The Comrade]

agentkgb wrote:
They're cluster bombs. Not all of them will be on target or even close.

The bomblets that scatter are released from a guided "holder" if you will and there is a general area where they hit. you don't use them in a city, you use them in wide open areas.



agentkgb wrote: There were tens of thousands of unexploded bomblets all over Southern Lebanon. They didn't cluster bomb Beirut but it's not like they avoided bombing places where people were.


no way! they bombed southern lebanon? and people live there?


there was a war going on. it's kind of impossible to avoid bombing an area where people are. since the idea of a war is to kill people.

[lilwolf]

Looks to me that hezbollah are the ones with Nazi type mentality. They even have it down to the salute.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: agentkgb wrote: There were tens of thousands of unexploded bomblets all over Southern Lebanon. They didn't cluster bomb Beirut but it's not like they avoided bombing places where people were.


no way! they bombed southern lebanon? and people live there?


there was a war going on. it's kind of impossible to avoid bombing an area where people are. since the idea of a war is to kill people.
The idea of a war is to kill enemies. Israel didn't seem to make much of an effort to avoid killing civilians.

[The Comrade]

agentkgb wrote:
The idea of a war is to kill enemies. Israel didn't seem to make much of an effort to avoid killing civilians.


considering 70% of airstrikes were called off because of too many civilians i would say israel went to great lengths.

[agentkgb]

Nazis intentionally killed civilians in the Holocaust, so I certainly wouldn't say Israel is Nazi-like.

[The Comrade]

lilwolf wrote: Looks to me that hezbollah are the ones with Nazi type mentality. They even have it down to the salute.... :lol: :lol: :lol:



sieg heil!

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: agentkgb wrote:
The idea of a war is to kill enemies. Israel didn't seem to make much of an effort to avoid killing civilians.


considering 70% of airstrikes were called off because of too many civilians i would say israel went to great lengths.
First, I'm not saying flat-out I don't believe that number but I'd like to see a link.
Second, Israel has easy access to modern technology, they didn't have to use cluster bombs that are so old they have a failure rate of 30%.

[The Comrade]

agentkgb wrote:
First, I'm not saying flat-out I don't believe that number but I'd like to see a link.
Second, Israel has easy access to modern technology, they didn't have to use cluster bombs that are so old they have a failure rate of 30%.


it was a statistic mentioned a few times on here by people who live in israel, and i am assuming know someone in the IDF. i don't know of a link that says it, so i'm only going on what they told me, which considering their track record of honesty, they are very trustworthy.

and like i said, cluster bombs are more effective against an enemy that is spread out.

[nrhy]

The Comrade wrote: lilwolf wrote: Looks to me that hezbollah are the ones with Nazi type mentality. They even have it down to the salute.... :lol: :lol: :lol:



sieg heil!

yeah um...the salute has been used by armies that existed before and after the nazi times. Hizbullah´s sworn enemy is israel and not the jews.

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: agentkgb wrote:
First, I'm not saying flat-out I don't believe that number but I'd like to see a link.
Second, Israel has easy access to modern technology, they didn't have to use cluster bombs that are so old they have a failure rate of 30%.


it was a statistic mentioned a few times on here by people who live in israel, and i am assuming know someone in the IDF. i don't know of a link that says it, so i'm only going on what they told me, which considering their track record of honesty, they are very trustworthy.

and like i said, cluster bombs are more effective against an enemy that is spread out.
That's fantastic for Israel's finances but it doesn't exactly demonstrate Israel's commitment to killing only people who are militants.

[The Comrade]

agentkgb wrote:
That's fantastic for Israel's finances but it doesn't exactly demonstrate Israel's commitment to killing only people who are militants.


and israels intent of those cluster bombs was for them to explode.


because they didn't that's not israels fault. it's no one's fault.