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MoscowMatt
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Proton wrote: Except that 9/11 is not an action based on the west. Bush didn't have (presumably) the option of choosing wither 9/11 will happen or not, therefore he is not "responcible" for it. Bush did have the choise of going into the Iraq war or not.
Cource, I can continoue that as well:
If Bin Laden hadn't been CIA trained... (what? Do you think that it is a coincidence that from ALL the Muslims in the world, the one that had the CIA training is the one that did 9/11?) and tought (apparently) that human life is free to spare...
Where is your proof that Bin Laden himself was CIA trained?
I see 9-11 is the fault of the US because they should have forseen how their training of the Mujahadeen would turn out!! :roll: |
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The Newb
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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MoscowMatt wrote: Proton wrote: Except that 9/11 is not an action based on the west. Bush didn't have (presumably) the option of choosing wither 9/11 will happen or not, therefore he is not "responcible" for it. Bush did have the choise of going into the Iraq war or not.
Cource, I can continoue that as well:
If Bin Laden hadn't been CIA trained... (what? Do you think that it is a coincidence that from ALL the Muslims in the world, the one that had the CIA training is the one that did 9/11?) and tought (apparently) that human life is free to spare...
Where is your proof that Bin Laden himself was CIA trained?
I see 9-11 is the fault of the US because they should have forseen how their training of the Mujahadeen would turn out!! :roll:
this thread is not about politics about one brave sailor who died to save his buddies from harm, i would appreciate it if we got back to that and left politics in another thread please
i find it very disturbing to me that some people would rather play politics on someones death rather than honor the fact that his sacrifice was to the utmost of what the military stands for wether or not you support the war wether or not you support the military this truly was a great and selfless act that deserves respect not politics |
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=CNP=
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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Location: Duncan BC Canada
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: A Navy SEAL sacrificed his life to save his comrades by throwing himself on top of a grenade
In war was invented the gernade, it was soon fallowed be another invention, the greatest act of brotherhood any man can show.
Regaurdless of race, nationality or religion, what it means to be a soldier is universal.
Quote: He deserves the medal of honor
No s**t.
But here's a link.
http://www.histori.ca/minutes/minute.do?id=14743
it helps to watch it.
Quote: Truly a grade-A soldier - the US should be proud it makes men like that.
You got it backwards, men like that make Nations, nations dont make them. |
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Trajan
Joined: 16 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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The Newb wrote: MoscowMatt wrote: Proton wrote: Except that 9/11 is not an action based on the west. Bush didn't have (presumably) the option of choosing wither 9/11 will happen or not, therefore he is not "responcible" for it. Bush did have the choise of going into the Iraq war or not.
Cource, I can continoue that as well:
If Bin Laden hadn't been CIA trained... (what? Do you think that it is a coincidence that from ALL the Muslims in the world, the one that had the CIA training is the one that did 9/11?) and tought (apparently) that human life is free to spare...
Where is your proof that Bin Laden himself was CIA trained?
I see 9-11 is the fault of the US because they should have forseen how their training of the Mujahadeen would turn out!! :roll:
this thread is not about politics about one brave sailor who died to save his buddies from harm, i would appreciate it if we got back to that and left politics in another thread please
i find it very disturbing to me that some people would rather play politics on someones death rather than honor the fact that his sacrifice was to the utmost of what the military stands for wether or not you support the war wether or not you support the military this truly was a great and selfless act that deserves respect not politics
Ya know, I was going to post this early in the AM. I talked to Thrilla about it. What forum, etc. Glad I held back.
I knew, just knew, that someone would bring up politics into it. I'm surprised there's been no blame for the lack of, or faulty body armor, with a side trip to corruption, Foley, Reid, Cheney and his deferments, all of which will be blamed on Clinton.
The man gave his life to save fellow SEALs. he didn't give a damn about their political affiliation. |
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The Newb
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thank you for the original post it does him some honor just to let people know of his selfless act its not your fault that some want to politicize this
you did the right thing in my book :clap: |
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Nathyn
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Dookiestix wrote: Nathyn wrote: MSNBC is so liberally-biased, it's sickening. Notice the article says that a NAVY seal "fell" on a grenade rather than "jumped."
What is so liberal about a Navy SEAL falling on a grenade in order to save his fellow sailors? I would imagine that "jumping" on a grenade might not have had the same results in saving his comrads from potential injury/death.
How you got "liberal" out of this isi truly beyond me, really...
This man was a real American hero, and he deserves the honor and respect from those who are both liberal AND conservative in recognizing the ultimate sacrifice he made for his team and his country. I may have never been in the military, but I salute him nonetheless.
I don't actually believe in the liberal media. |
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whatsthepoint
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| This man is a credit to our soldiers. It shows you the character and selflessness of a true Hero. |
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Trajan wrote: The Newb wrote: MoscowMatt wrote: Proton wrote: Except that 9/11 is not an action based on the west. Bush didn't have (presumably) the option of choosing wither 9/11 will happen or not, therefore he is not "responcible" for it. Bush did have the choise of going into the Iraq war or not.
Cource, I can continoue that as well:
If Bin Laden hadn't been CIA trained... (what? Do you think that it is a coincidence that from ALL the Muslims in the world, the one that had the CIA training is the one that did 9/11?) and tought (apparently) that human life is free to spare...
Where is your proof that Bin Laden himself was CIA trained?
I see 9-11 is the fault of the US because they should have forseen how their training of the Mujahadeen would turn out!! :roll:
this thread is not about politics about one brave sailor who died to save his buddies from harm, i would appreciate it if we got back to that and left politics in another thread please
i find it very disturbing to me that some people would rather play politics on someones death rather than honor the fact that his sacrifice was to the utmost of what the military stands for wether or not you support the war wether or not you support the military this truly was a great and selfless act that deserves respect not politics
Ya know, I was going to post this early in the AM. I talked to Thrilla about it. What forum, etc. Glad I held back.
I knew, just knew, that someone would bring up politics into it. I'm surprised there's been no blame for the lack of, or faulty body armor, with a side trip to corruption, Foley, Reid, Cheney and his deferments, all of which will be blamed on Clinton.
The man gave his life to save fellow SEALs. he didn't give a damn about their political affiliation.
There are no politics in or on a battle field...only your own people and brothers at arms....nothing else matters but the other men in your team |
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cap'n queasy
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There's not many men cut from the same cloth as this young man.
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DavidXV
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Richard Owl Mirror wrote: lilwolf wrote: Does it not say in the bible something like..."No greater love hath a man that will lay down his life for others."
This the bravest becaue some gave a little and some gave all...
My deepest condolences and deepest respect and admiration for this fine man.
Yes, I agree
I am left with the question of why he or anybody wouldn't have tried to throw it out a door before it exploded.
I don't know about such things so I may be wrong to ask this question. I don't either, but my guess is if you don't know exactly how long you have, you wouldn't want it momentarily at the same level as everyone's head, which it seems like raising it to thow it would place it there for a split second.
Prayers for the family of this young man. |
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Trajan
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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lilwolf wrote: Trajan wrote: The Newb wrote: MoscowMatt wrote: Proton wrote: Except that 9/11 is not an action based on the west. Bush didn't have (presumably) the option of choosing wither 9/11 will happen or not, therefore he is not "responcible" for it. Bush did have the choise of going into the Iraq war or not.
Cource, I can continoue that as well:
If Bin Laden hadn't been CIA trained... (what? Do you think that it is a coincidence that from ALL the Muslims in the world, the one that had the CIA training is the one that did 9/11?) and tought (apparently) that human life is free to spare...
Where is your proof that Bin Laden himself was CIA trained?
I see 9-11 is the fault of the US because they should have forseen how their training of the Mujahadeen would turn out!! :roll:
this thread is not about politics about one brave sailor who died to save his buddies from harm, i would appreciate it if we got back to that and left politics in another thread please
i find it very disturbing to me that some people would rather play politics on someones death rather than honor the fact that his sacrifice was to the utmost of what the military stands for wether or not you support the war wether or not you support the military this truly was a great and selfless act that deserves respect not politics
Ya know, I was going to post this early in the AM. I talked to Thrilla about it. What forum, etc. Glad I held back.
I knew, just knew, that someone would bring up politics into it. I'm surprised there's been no blame for the lack of, or faulty body armor, with a side trip to corruption, Foley, Reid, Cheney and his deferments, all of which will be blamed on Clinton.
The man gave his life to save fellow SEALs. he didn't give a damn about their political affiliation.
There are no politics in or on a battle field...only your own people and brothers at arms....nothing else matters but the other men in your team :tu: |
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letfreedomring
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| I salute this fine soldier and pray for his loved ones. |
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: |
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I have seen heroes in my life time and only a couple of men did I know that have the courage to do this to save their men in their team.
I have a good friend that recieved the medal of honor in Vietnam, and he understood courage and selflessness. He is still alive and still one of my best friends.
Truly this man deserves the Medal of Honor .
There is a very special place in the halls of heaven for men like this, and I would like to think that the creator has held his hands out and shook the hand of an american sailor that gave his all. |
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Angelicus
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: |
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In memorium.
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Marine1
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: |
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R.I.P Shipmate
Semper Fi |
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Richard Owl Mirror
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Angelicus wrote: In memorium.
This is really beautiful, did you create it or find it ? |
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lilwolf
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Angelicus wrote: In memorium.
WOW!!!!!! That is remarkable. Did you make this yourself sir.
Truly beautiful :tu: |
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njlemire87
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks you for your service, from a humble American. God bless this young man, and to all who wear the Uniform of this great nation.
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Snake
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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And some people think altruism is a myth.
What a brave man to do what he did. My deepest condolences to his family and friends, and more respect than I knew was possible. God bless. |
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bunny
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| Another one bites the dust - what the death toll at now? |
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