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[Alizard]

puffin wrote: We need more members here posting intelligent debating points.....Anyone care to debate the FACTS contained within Annes article? I guess we'll see.


So, to summarize:

You are complaining that you are not getting an "intelligent" response from members in debating an article which has a title that draws a pun on the word "b--wjob"....... for about the hundredth time, I would add.

And said article contains such authoritative and obviously accurate garbage such as:

"In 1994, the Clinton administration got a call from Jimmy Carter — probably collect — who was with the then-leader of North Korea, saying: "Hey, Kim Il Sung is a total stud, and I've worked out a terrific deal. I'll give you the details later."



Yes..... I can't imagine why people would not take that nut job's article as the serious piece of journalism that you clearly believe it to be.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Alizard]

TwinkieDP wrote: puffin wrote: I just LOVE your name 'Twinke'!
The problem is someone did deny he had sex with an intern. It was 'Billy Bob' himself "THE MAN WITH THE PERPETUAL HARDON" who did the 'denying' and was empeached because he LIED about it. If he had been able to 'keep it in his pants' and out of the mouths of trailer trash maybe he would have had enough blood heading to his brain instead of to 'Black Beauty' to understand what was really going on in NK and with AQ. Thats Twinkie to you sir... :-|

They call him MISTER Twinkie...... :lol:

[Alizard]

puffin wrote:
The problem is someone did deny he had sex with an intern.

wait a minute.... did this just turn into a Foley thread when I was in the bathroom?

[Alizard]

TwinkieDP wrote: Whats up with the latest Clinton threads? Yes, he had sex with an intern, no one can deny that. But seriously, why all this renewed attention on Clinton??

They have run out of lies and people to blame.

[Snake]

el_hombre_de_Dios wrote: Is this real?!?!?! :rotf: His dreams of what, selling more weapons to rogue nations to get more money so he can consolidate his power to starve more N. Koreans to death with failed communist policies? N. Korea is a rogue nation that's equal with the mafia. They'll sell arms to anyone for a price. And we want them to have nuclear weapons? (Which they may very well have now thanks to the Bozo's extraordinaire Clinton/Albright.) If
No, it's totally serious, you can tell because I started out with "King J Dawg the Illest" :roll:

[Di]

Unimportant nitpick: I believe the correct term is "bold-faced lie", since a "bald-faced lie" would be limited only to the clean shaven. Then again, I've never seen Clinton with a mustache... so carry on. [/unimportant nitpick]

[lilwolf]

Clinton did do some dumb things and here is another perspective on him and his legacy: I add some of the high points here.....


North Korea Nukes Clinton Legacy

For example, former Clinton adviser Paul Begala, now serving as a talking head on CNN, claimed that the Clinton administration contained the threat from North Korea. Clearly, Mr. Begala missed the 1990s.

Of course, Mr. Begala simply forgot that Clinton's military chief of staff testified in 1998 that North Korea did not have an active ballistic missile program. One week later the North Koreans launched a missile over Japan that landed off the Alaska coast.

During the early Clinton years, hard-liners and so-called conservative hawks advocated a pre-emptive strike to halt North Korea's nuclear weapons development before it could field an atomic bomb. Instead of taking the hard line, President Clinton elected to rely on former President Jimmy Carter and decided to appease the Marxist-Stalinist dictatorship.

Carter met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang and returned to America waving a piece of paper and declaring peace in our time. Kim, according to Carter, had agreed to stop his nuclear weapons development.

The Clinton appeasement program for North Korea included hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, food, oil and even a nuclear reactor. However, the agreement was flawed and lacked even the most informal means of verification.

In return, Kim elected to starve his people while using the American aid to build uranium bombs. The lowest estimate is that Kim starved to death over 1 million of his own people, even with the U.S. aid program.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/7/164846.shtml


AND ONE MORE THING ON CLINTON AND HIS LEGACY


The Reagan legacy included lower taxes, lower unemployment, a stronger economy, a greater sense of pride as a nation and above all, freedom from the tyranny of the Cold War. The Clinton “legacy” includes, among other things, confusion about the definition of the word “is”, cigars as a sex toy, a really, really obnoxious and mentally deranged ex-vice president who, by the grace of God, didn’t become president, and the part of the Clinton “legacy” the Bush Administration found itself dealing with this week: pissant little nations threatening us with their nuclear weapons programs
1993: North Korea says it has quit the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty amid suspicions that it is developing nuclear weapons. It later reverses that decision.

1994: North Korea and U.S. sign an agreement. North Korea pledges to freeze and eventually dismantle its nuclear weapons program in exchange for international aid to build two power-producing nuclear reactors.


So the Clinton Administration, in its naïve stupidity, says “okay North Korea, pretty please, if you’ll just take apart your nuclear weapons and stop building them, we’ll help you build MORE nuclear facilities. "


Aug. 31, 1998: North Korea fires a multistage over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean, proving it can strike any part of Japan's territory. So obviously, this plan didn’t work. Score one for the Clinton Administration and their “legacy”. But let’s just twiddle our thumbs a little longer.

May 25-28, 1999: Former Defense Secretary William Perry visits North Korea and delivers a U.S. disarmament proposal

So because they were so trustworthy before, the Clinton Administration believes that they can trust the North Koreans to accept and abide by a disarmament proposal.


Sept. 13: North Korea pledges to freeze long-range missile tests.

Sept. 17: U.S. President Bill Clinton eases economic sanctions against North Korea.


So against reason, common sense and past history, we believe them again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times……?


December: A U.S.-led consortium signs a US $4.6 billion contract for two safer, Western-developed light-water nuclear reactors in North Korea.


So nuclear power isn’t good enough for us, because we haven’t had a nuclear power plant authorized in the U.S. since 1970, none licensed since 1996 and none under construction even today, but nuclear power is fine for the North Koreans. And that’s all they are going to use these facilities for – generating nuclear power. Right.


July 2000: North Korea again threatens to restart its nuclear program if Washington doesn't compensate for the loss of electricity caused by delays in building nuclear power plants

Fool me a fourth time…..?


June 2001: North Korea warns it will reconsider its moratorium on missile tests if the Bush administration doesn't resume contacts aimed at normalizing relations.


So now we have the Bush Administration having to deal with the Clinton Administration’s Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football policy towards North Korea and their arms program – with North Korean as Lucy, their nuclear arms program as the football and us as Charlie Brown. Fantastic “legacy”, Clinton Administration, way to go! Glad you weren't in charge during the Cold War!


July: State Department reports North Korea is going ahead with development of its long-range missile. A Bush administration official says North Korea conducts an engine test of the Taepodong-1 missile.
December: President Bush warns Iraq and North Korea that they would be "held accountable" if they developed weapons of mass destruction "that will be used to terrorize nations."

Jan. 29, 2002: Bush labels North Korea, Iran and Iraq an "axis of evil" in his State of the Union address. "By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger," he says.


So rather than tiptoe around the issue and agree to help North Korea build more nuclear power plants, Bush is dealing with the issue head on. Beck and the other revisionists claim this is “what worked for Clinton”? Sorry, but I don’t remember Clinton actually confronting the North Koreans with the truth.

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=66

[Cal-Pak]

lilwolf wrote:
Sept. 13: North Korea pledges to freeze long-range missile tests.

Sept. 17: U.S. President Bill Clinton eases economic sanctions against North Korea.


So against reason, common sense and past history, we believe them again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times……?


December: A U.S.-led consortium signs a US $4.6 billion contract for two safer, Western-developed light-water nuclear reactors in North Korea.


So nuclear power isn’t good enough for us, because we haven’t had a nuclear power plant authorized in the U.S. since 1970, none licensed since 1996 and none under construction even today, but nuclear power is fine for the North Koreans. And that’s all they are going to use these facilities for – generating nuclear power. Right.


July 2000: North Korea again threatens to restart its nuclear program if Washington doesn't compensate for the loss of electricity caused by delays in building nuclear power plants

Fool me a fourth time…..?


June 2001: North Korea warns it will reconsider its moratorium on missile tests if the Bush administration doesn't resume contacts aimed at normalizing relations.


So now we have the Bush Administration having to deal with the Clinton Administration’s Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football policy towards North Korea and their arms program – with North Korean as Lucy, their nuclear arms program as the football and us as Charlie Brown. Fantastic “legacy", Clinton Administration, way to go! Glad you weren't in charge during the Cold War!


July: State Department reports North Korea is going ahead with development of its long-range missile. A Bush administration official says North Korea conducts an engine test of the Taepodong-1 missile.
December: President Bush warns Iraq and North Korea that they would be "held accountable" if they developed weapons of mass destruction "that will be used to terrorize nations."

Jan. 29, 2002: Bush labels North Korea, Iran and Iraq an "axis of evil" in his State of the Union address. "By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger," he says.


So rather than tiptoe around the issue and agree to help North Korea build more nuclear power plants, Bush is dealing with the issue head on. Beck and the other revisionists claim this is “what worked for Clinton"? Sorry, but I don’t remember Clinton actually confronting the North Koreans with the truth.

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=66

It seems to me, that we had some sort of deal with North Korea, and we reneged on our part of it. ( could someone please state when Bush ended this deal Clinton had With NK, I can't seem to find the correct wording to find it. for some reason it seems like it was right after Bush took office.)

Then we end all dealings with him, and call him evil.
So of course he going to develop nukes.
It's the whole Iraq scenario, If they think you have WMD's they will attack.
If they Know you have them they won't.(or at least that what is going through Kim Jong Ill mind)
(but who can blame him, we did call him evil, and invaded one country that was evil, and threatening the other one we called evil.)

[Cal-Pak]

Oh, and as I said somewhere else.
Say what you want about what Clinton did or didn't do.

Under which President did North Korea Build a nuclear bomb?:think:


Oh, that's right, This President.

[Cal-Pak]

puffin wrote: I just LOVE your name 'Twinke'!
The problem is someone did deny he had sex with an intern. It was 'Billy Bob' himself "THE MAN WITH THE PERPETUAL HARDON" who did the 'denying' and was empeached because he LIED about it. If he had been able to 'keep it in his pants' and out of the mouths of trailer trash maybe he would have had enough blood heading to his brain instead of to 'Black Beauty' to understand what was really going on in NK and with AQ.
If I recall, it wasn't what Bill and Monica did that distracted him(if you chose to call it that).
It was the lengthy investigation and impeachment of Clinton that kept him distracted.
Maybe if the Republicans didn't have penis envy, Clinton wouldn't have been distracted. Oh wait, that's right, Republicans were having extra marital affairs also.

Quote: The problem is someone did deny he had sex with an intern. It was 'Billy Bob' himself "THE MAN WITH THE PERPETUAL HARDON" who did the 'denying' and was empeached because he LIED about it.
You know, I use to think this way also. Clinton wasn't impeached for having an affair.
It was for lying under oath.

Then Bush got elected. And I heard people say, after 9/11
"We need to invade Iraq to prevent another 9/11"
that was right after 9/11.
Then came the whole argument for invading Iraq.
Now you want to see some clever lying, it was all over the news during this time.
Yes, Bush and the rest of them did lie.
Because if one CIA agent said what Bush was asserting is not true.
Then Bush goes around the country claiming that everyone believes this, when everyone does not.
That is lying.

Just take a look for yourself, its all over the place.

[Angelicus]

Cal-Pak wrote: lilwolf wrote:
Sept. 13: North Korea pledges to freeze long-range missile tests.

Sept. 17: U.S. President Bill Clinton eases economic sanctions against North Korea.


So against reason, common sense and past history, we believe them again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times……?


December: A U.S.-led consortium signs a US $4.6 billion contract for two safer, Western-developed light-water nuclear reactors in North Korea.


So nuclear power isn’t good enough for us, because we haven’t had a nuclear power plant authorized in the U.S. since 1970, none licensed since 1996 and none under construction even today, but nuclear power is fine for the North Koreans. And that’s all they are going to use these facilities for – generating nuclear power. Right.


July 2000: North Korea again threatens to restart its nuclear program if Washington doesn't compensate for the loss of electricity caused by delays in building nuclear power plants

Fool me a fourth time…..?


June 2001: North Korea warns it will reconsider its moratorium on missile tests if the Bush administration doesn't resume contacts aimed at normalizing relations.


So now we have the Bush Administration having to deal with the Clinton Administration’s Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football policy towards North Korea and their arms program – with North Korean as Lucy, their nuclear arms program as the football and us as Charlie Brown. Fantastic “legacy", Clinton Administration, way to go! Glad you weren't in charge during the Cold War!


July: State Department reports North Korea is going ahead with development of its long-range missile. A Bush administration official says North Korea conducts an engine test of the Taepodong-1 missile.
December: President Bush warns Iraq and North Korea that they would be "held accountable" if they developed weapons of mass destruction "that will be used to terrorize nations."

Jan. 29, 2002: Bush labels North Korea, Iran and Iraq an "axis of evil" in his State of the Union address. "By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger," he says.


So rather than tiptoe around the issue and agree to help North Korea build more nuclear power plants, Bush is dealing with the issue head on. Beck and the other revisionists claim this is “what worked for Clinton"? Sorry, but I don’t remember Clinton actually confronting the North Koreans with the truth.

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=66

It seems to me, that we had some sort of deal with North Korea, and we reneged on our part of it. ( could someone please state when Bush ended this deal Clinton had With NK, I can't seem to find the correct wording to find it. for some reason it seems like it was right after Bush took office.)

Then we end all dealings with him, and call him evil.
So of course he going to develop nukes.
It's the whole Iraq scenario, If they think you have WMD's they will attack.
If they Know you have them they won't.(or at least that what is going through Kim Jong Ill mind)
(but who can blame him, we did call him evil, and invaded one country that was evil, and threatening the other one we called evil.)

Ah someone called the little dictator a name boohoo. Cry me a freaking river. So what someone called him a name. So what if Bush does either. Thats still not justification for breaking the agreement he signed with Clinton, and its not justification for setting off a nuke.

Bush has been called lots of names by leaders of other nations, I don't see the U.S. setting off any nukes do you? Clinton was called lots of names by leaders of other nations too, again you didn't see the U.S. setting off any nukes now did we.

It's a good thing that America as a nation, as a people, does not follow this line of reasoning the left keeps putting forth, that its ok to set off nukes if someone calls you a name.

I mean Europe would be unihabitable rubble, the ME would be a sea of glass, and we'd all probably be suffering from fallout sickness by now, if the U.S. did.

Oh and by the way, nothing in the agreement Clinton signed said that Bush or the United States for that matter had too continue too talk to Kim Jung Il. So exactly how, did we "reneg" on the deal?

[puffin]

If you want Kerry/Gore/Pelosi/Hillar/Reid/and don't forget sitting in the shadows"The Man With A The Perpetual Hardon", who from now on I dumb "The Happy Gang", to be dealing with Kim, Iran, the Iranian sent terrorists in Iraq and Kim then by all means vote Dem. in Nov. and in 08.
The greatest threat to the sercurity of the world would be a LIB US government with Hillary taking advice on running the country from the likes of Carter and Bill and the rest of the 'Happy Gang'. Imagine a completely chaotic administration with no qlue what to do with rouqe states.
Imagine watching Hillary/Pelosi/Reid, and the man who took over Rumsfields job namely Jimmy Carter sweating under the CNN camera lights trying to explain where New York dissappeared to to the citizens of the US.
Think that's a joke (well the part about Carter is but Hillary would stick some one just as dumb as Carter in the job to appease the Hollywood radical LIB hippies). I'm afraid there more truth to my little senario than mights meet the eye.
Every person on earth who wishes for the destruction of the US right now is waiting with both fingers crossed to see if the LIBs win the House/senate and hopefully the Whitehouse. If they do those you want to destroy the US will have all been given Platinum ''no limit' terrorism against the US credit cards.

[lovebush]

Alizard wrote: [
Now there's something you never see..... the name "Ann Coulter" and the words "excellent article" referred to in the same sentence.

you must be very careful to keep your media filter tuned to the left.

[Refrozen Seabass]

It takes a true believer to point at Bush's failed policies as proof of Clinton's incompetence. Bush was handed this ball just like he was handed the bin Laden ball, and he dropped it like it was the bin Laden ball. Face it.

[lilwolf]

Refrozen Seabass wrote: It takes a true believer to point at Bush's failed policies as proof of Clinton's incompetence. Bush was handed this ball just like he was handed the bin Laden ball, and he dropped it like it was the bin Laden ball. Face it.


You need to go do a little research on some of the other threads that have been posted before you make that claim.

See who had the chance and did not take it, and then see who blew up an asprin factory and then look at all the other things your illustrious ex pres did and did not do when he was in the office getting his BJ's.

Back up your claim

[lovebush]

Refrozen Seabass wrote: It takes a true believer to point at Bush's failed policies as proof of Clinton's incompetence. Bush was handed this ball just like he was handed the bin Laden ball, and he dropped it like it was the bin Laden ball. Face it.

when you jump on this side of this argument, you really show your hand. you must be one of those people who blame Bush for the weather.

[lilwolf]

Here are some of the things he screwed up for the seabass guy. Read em and weap. :lol:

New York City - February 26, 1993

al-Qaeda plans and executes the first attack on New York's twin towers. Led by the criminally insane spiritual leader, Omar Abdel Rahman, they unleash a truck bomb at the base in an attempt to collapse the structure. Six are killed and over a 1,000 are injured. President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. With the help of Janet Reno, the administration considers the incident only a criminal act, convicts six and judges the case closed.

Somalia - October 3, 1993

An impatient administration presses U.S. military based in Somalia to engage and capture Somali warlord Mohammed Adid while refusing to equip them with air gunships or heavy armor out of U.N. sensitivities. Al-Qaeda lieutenants train the local insurgency to ambush and counter-attack U.S. Rangers during a daring daylight raid. In a 15-hour firefight 19 American soldiers were killed while inflicting over 1,000 Somalis. An American soldier was dragged naked through the streets in celebration, and President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. Days later Clinton announces an abrupt pullout of Somalia and the considers the case closed.

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia - November 13, 1995

Militants strike U.S. military headquarters with a bomb inside a van. Five are killed. The administration sends FBI agents and President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. After Saudi Arabia refusing to cooperate after beheading four chosen for blame of the terrorist attack, the administration considers the case closed.

Dhahran, Saudi Arabia - June 25, 1996

Militants strike U.S. military barracks with a bomb inside a truck. Nineteen are killed. President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. But absolutely nothing was done until a new G. W. Bush administration took office when a federal grand jury indicted 13 Saudis and a Lebanese. The Clinton administration considered the case closed.

East Africa - August 7, 1998

al-Qaeda conducts orchestrated attacks against U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Two truck bombs kill 224, including 12 Americans while injuring over 5,000. President Clinton promises to hunt and punish those responsible. Two weeks later he chooses an aspirin factory in Sudan to launch cruise missiles against. Thinking this meek show of force was enough to repel Islamic extremists from attacking the United States, the Clinton administration considered the case closed.

Aden, Yemen - October 12, 2000

al-Qaeda strikes a naval target, the destroyer U.S.S. Cole. With a small boat bomb they murder 17 sailors. The Yemenis quietly arrest eight and jails none. Though President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible, he does nothing to distract his vice-president, Al Gore, from continuing his presidential campaign. Choosing the election over justice, the Clinton administration considered the case closed.

New York City - September 11, 2001

al-Qaeda returns to New York planning and executing their second attack on the city's twin towers. Two airliners are hijacked and rammed into each sky scraper. The heat and damage done to the structures brought each tower to earth. al-Qaeda hijacks two other airliners that same morning. One crashes into the Pentagon in D.C. while the other crashes into a field in Ohio after passengers resisted foiled a plan believed to fly into D.C. President G. W. Bush promises to hunt those and punish those responsible and declares War Against Terror. He did not consider the case closed.


In August, 2002, NewsMax.com releases secret audio of then President Clinton admitting for the first time anywhere that he had the chance to take Osama bin Laden into custody, but he nixed the idea because he couldn't come up with a legal justification for the 9-11 mastermind's extradition The tape was recorded at a February 2002 business luncheon on New York's Long Island:
"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again - they released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan." (End of excerpt)

While many Americans felt great pride in Bill Clinton's approach to terrorism, the Islamic world celebrated on September 11th, 2001
Starving for attention, Clinton is interviewed by Fox News correspondent Chris Wallace. Clinton turns suddenly angry when confronted with his record on terrorism during his presidency "melts down" in a defensive rage and cowers behind the trousers of Richard Clarke. Grasping at what's left of his legacy he attempts to intimidate Wallace, "And you've got that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever. But I had responsibility for trying to protect this country. I tried and I failed to get bin Laden. I regret it." - Bill Clinton - aired September 24, 2006

[^Markus^]

lilwolf wrote: Here are some of the things he screwed up for the seabass guy. Read em and weap. :lol:

New York City - February 26, 1993

al-Qaeda plans and executes the first attack on New York's twin towers. Led by the criminally insane spiritual leader, Omar Abdel Rahman, they unleash a truck bomb at the base in an attempt to collapse the structure. Six are killed and over a 1,000 are injured. President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. With the help of Janet Reno, the administration considers the incident only a criminal act, convicts six and judges the case closed.

Somalia - October 3, 1993

An impatient administration presses U.S. military based in Somalia to engage and capture Somali warlord Mohammed Adid while refusing to equip them with air gunships or heavy armor out of U.N. sensitivities. Al-Qaeda lieutenants train the local insurgency to ambush and counter-attack U.S. Rangers during a daring daylight raid. In a 15-hour firefight 19 American soldiers were killed while inflicting over 1,000 Somalis. An American soldier was dragged naked through the streets in celebration, and President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. Days later Clinton announces an abrupt pullout of Somalia and the considers the case closed.

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia - November 13, 1995

Militants strike U.S. military headquarters with a bomb inside a van. Five are killed. The administration sends FBI agents and President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. After Saudi Arabia refusing to cooperate after beheading four chosen for blame of the terrorist attack, the administration considers the case closed.

Dhahran, Saudi Arabia - June 25, 1996

Militants strike U.S. military barracks with a bomb inside a truck. Nineteen are killed. President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. But absolutely nothing was done until a new G. W. Bush administration took office when a federal grand jury indicted 13 Saudis and a Lebanese. The Clinton administration considered the case closed.

East Africa - August 7, 1998

al-Qaeda conducts orchestrated attacks against U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Two truck bombs kill 224, including 12 Americans while injuring over 5,000. President Clinton promises to hunt and punish those responsible. Two weeks later he chooses an aspirin factory in Sudan to launch cruise missiles against. Thinking this meek show of force was enough to repel Islamic extremists from attacking the United States, the Clinton administration considered the case closed.

Aden, Yemen - October 12, 2000

al-Qaeda strikes a naval target, the destroyer U.S.S. Cole. With a small boat bomb they murder 17 sailors. The Yemenis quietly arrest eight and jails none. Though President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible, he does nothing to distract his vice-president, Al Gore, from continuing his presidential campaign. Choosing the election over justice, the Clinton administration considered the case closed.

New York City - September 11, 2001

al-Qaeda returns to New York planning and executing their second attack on the city's twin towers. Two airliners are hijacked and rammed into each sky scraper. The heat and damage done to the structures brought each tower to earth. al-Qaeda hijacks two other airliners that same morning. One crashes into the Pentagon in D.C. while the other crashes into a field in Ohio after passengers resisted foiled a plan believed to fly into D.C. President G. W. Bush promises to hunt those and punish those responsible and declares War Against Terror. He did not consider the case closed.


In August, 2002, NewsMax.com releases secret audio of then President Clinton admitting for the first time anywhere that he had the chance to take Osama bin Laden into custody, but he nixed the idea because he couldn't come up with a legal justification for the 9-11 mastermind's extradition The tape was recorded at a February 2002 business luncheon on New York's Long Island:
"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again - they released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan." (End of excerpt)

While many Americans felt great pride in Bill Clinton's approach to terrorism, the Islamic world celebrated on September 11th, 2001
Starving for attention, Clinton is interviewed by Fox News correspondent Chris Wallace. Clinton turns suddenly angry when confronted with his record on terrorism during his presidency "melts down" in a defensive rage and cowers behind the trousers of Richard Clarke. Grasping at what's left of his legacy he attempts to intimidate Wallace, "And you've got that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever. But I had responsibility for trying to protect this country. I tried and I failed to get bin Laden. I regret it." - Bill Clinton - aired September 24, 2006

Perhaps you don't understand how the 'Blame Game" works. All you have posted above is conjecture and biased rhetoric. There are NO FACTS proven by any of the above statements you posted.

Typical.

[lilwolf]

^Markus^ wrote: lilwolf wrote: Here are some of the things he screwed up for the seabass guy. Read em and weap. :lol:

New York City - February 26, 1993

al-Qaeda plans and executes the first attack on New York's twin towers. Led by the criminally insane spiritual leader, Omar Abdel Rahman, they unleash a truck bomb at the base in an attempt to collapse the structure. Six are killed and over a 1,000 are injured. President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. With the help of Janet Reno, the administration considers the incident only a criminal act, convicts six and judges the case closed.

Somalia - October 3, 1993

An impatient administration presses U.S. military based in Somalia to engage and capture Somali warlord Mohammed Adid while refusing to equip them with air gunships or heavy armor out of U.N. sensitivities. Al-Qaeda lieutenants train the local insurgency to ambush and counter-attack U.S. Rangers during a daring daylight raid. In a 15-hour firefight 19 American soldiers were killed while inflicting over 1,000 Somalis. An American soldier was dragged naked through the streets in celebration, and President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. Days later Clinton announces an abrupt pullout of Somalia and the considers the case closed.

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia - November 13, 1995

Militants strike U.S. military headquarters with a bomb inside a van. Five are killed. The administration sends FBI agents and President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. After Saudi Arabia refusing to cooperate after beheading four chosen for blame of the terrorist attack, the administration considers the case closed.

Dhahran, Saudi Arabia - June 25, 1996

Militants strike U.S. military barracks with a bomb inside a truck. Nineteen are killed. President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible. But absolutely nothing was done until a new G. W. Bush administration took office when a federal grand jury indicted 13 Saudis and a Lebanese. The Clinton administration considered the case closed.

East Africa - August 7, 1998

al-Qaeda conducts orchestrated attacks against U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Two truck bombs kill 224, including 12 Americans while injuring over 5,000. President Clinton promises to hunt and punish those responsible. Two weeks later he chooses an aspirin factory in Sudan to launch cruise missiles against. Thinking this meek show of force was enough to repel Islamic extremists from attacking the United States, the Clinton administration considered the case closed.

Aden, Yemen - October 12, 2000

al-Qaeda strikes a naval target, the destroyer U.S.S. Cole. With a small boat bomb they murder 17 sailors. The Yemenis quietly arrest eight and jails none. Though President Clinton promises to hunt those and punish those responsible, he does nothing to distract his vice-president, Al Gore, from continuing his presidential campaign. Choosing the election over justice, the Clinton administration considered the case closed.

New York City - September 11, 2001

al-Qaeda returns to New York planning and executing their second attack on the city's twin towers. Two airliners are hijacked and rammed into each sky scraper. The heat and damage done to the structures brought each tower to earth. al-Qaeda hijacks two other airliners that same morning. One crashes into the Pentagon in D.C. while the other crashes into a field in Ohio after passengers resisted foiled a plan believed to fly into D.C. President G. W. Bush promises to hunt those and punish those responsible and declares War Against Terror. He did not consider the case closed.


In August, 2002, NewsMax.com releases secret audio of then President Clinton admitting for the first time anywhere that he had the chance to take Osama bin Laden into custody, but he nixed the idea because he couldn't come up with a legal justification for the 9-11 mastermind's extradition The tape was recorded at a February 2002 business luncheon on New York's Long Island:
"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again - they released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan." (End of excerpt)

While many Americans felt great pride in Bill Clinton's approach to terrorism, the Islamic world celebrated on September 11th, 2001
Starving for attention, Clinton is interviewed by Fox News correspondent Chris Wallace. Clinton turns suddenly angry when confronted with his record on terrorism during his presidency "melts down" in a defensive rage and cowers behind the trousers of Richard Clarke. Grasping at what's left of his legacy he attempts to intimidate Wallace, "And you've got that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever. But I had responsibility for trying to protect this country. I tried and I failed to get bin Laden. I regret it." - Bill Clinton - aired September 24, 2006

Perhaps you don't understand how the 'Blame Game" works. All you have posted above is conjecture and biased rhetoric. There are NO FACTS proven by any of the above statements you posted.

Typical.


Do your homework and dispute any one of them . What you will find is that they are all accurate and verifiable. No conjecture and no biased rhetoric there , just facts that you may disporove if you can and good luck on it. :lol:

[Dark Party]

TwinkieDP wrote: Whats up with the latest Clinton threads? Yes, he had sex with an intern, no one can deny that. But seriously, why all this renewed attention on Clinton??

Because after six years of failed policies dealing with Iran and North Korea, a quagmire in Iraq, an enormous budget deficit, stagnant wages for working people, and an inability to catch Osama bin Laden, the Republicans have returned to familiar footing:

Blame it all on Clinton.