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[puffin]

Once againg Ann coulter hits the nail on the head when she points out Clinton and his Lib cronies are telling a blatant lie when they claim Kim didn't develope nuke tech for eight years. Even the NYT knew that was a lie. The 'link' to Annes excellent article which follows can be found at annecoulter.com.

CLINTON'S LATEST GLOW JOB
October 11, 2006


With the Democrats' full-throated moralizing of late, I'm almost tempted to vote for them — although perhaps "full-throated" is the wrong phrase to use with regard to Democrats and sex scandals. The sudden emergence of the Swift Butt Veterans for Truth demonstrates that the Democrats would prefer to talk about anything other than national security.

Unfortunately for them, the psychotic Kim Jong Il seems to be setting off nukes, raising the embarrassing issue of the Clinton administration's 1994 "peace" deal with North Korea.

At least with former Rep. Mark Foley, you could say the Democrats' hypocritical grandstanding was just politics. But in the case of North Korea, Democrats are resorting to bald-faced lies.

Current New Mexico governor and former Clinton administration official Bill Richardson has been on tour, bragging about the groundbreaking Clinton administration negotiations with North Korea — keeping his fingers crossed that no one has access to news from 1994.

In 1994, the Clinton administration got a call from Jimmy Carter — probably collect — who was with the then-leader of North Korea, saying: "Hey, Kim Il Sung is a total stud, and I've worked out a terrific deal. I'll give you the details later."

Clinton promptly signed the deal, so he could forget about North Korea and get back to cheating on Hillary. Mission accomplished.

Under the terms of the "agreed framework," we gave North Korea all sorts of bribes — more than $5 billion worth of oil, two nuclear reactors and lots of high technology. In return, they took the bribes and kept building nukes. This wasn't difficult, inasmuch as the 1994 deal permitted the North Koreans to evade weapons inspectors for the next five years.

Yes, you read that right: North Korea promised not to develop nukes, and we showed how much we trusted them by agreeing to no weapons inspections for five years.

The famed "allies," whom liberals claim they are so interested in pleasing, went ballistic at this cave-in to North Korea. Japan and South Korea — actual allies, unlike France and Germany — were furious. Even Hans Blix thought we were being patsies.

If you need any more evidence that it was a rotten deal, The New York Times hailed it as "a resounding triumph."

At the time, people like William Safire were screaming from the rooftops that allowing North Korea to escape weapons inspections for five years would "preclude a pre-emptive strike by us if North Korea, in the next U.S. president's administration, breaks its agreement to freeze additional bomb-making."

And then on Oct. 17, 2002 — under a new administration, you'll note — The New York Times reported on the front page, so you couldn't have missed it: "Confronted by new American intelligence, North Korea has admitted that it has been conducting a major clandestine nuclear weapons development program for the past several years."

So when it comes to North Korea, I believe the Democrats might want to maintain a discreet silence, lest anyone ask, "Hey, did you guys do anything with North Korea?"

But by Richardson's lights, the only reason Kim Jong Il is testing nukes is because Bush called him evil. He said, "When you call him axis of evil or a tyrant, you know, he just goes crazy." This is the sort of idiocy you expect to hear from an illiterate like Keith Olbermann, not someone who might know people who read newspapers.

Richardson also blames the war in Iraq, bleating that the poor North Koreans feel "that there's too much attention on the Middle East, on Iraq. So it's a cry for attention." If Kim just wanted our attention, he could have started dating Lindsay Lohan. But Richardson says Kim "psychologically feels he's been dissed, that he's not treated with respect."

Damn that Bush! If only he had ignored the crazy Muslims and dedicated himself into sending flowers (and more nuclear reactors!) to North Korea, we could be actively helping Kim develop his nukes like the Clinton administration did.

As Richardson said, Kim "wants us to negotiate with him directly, as we did in the Clinton administration."

To go on TV and propose negotiating with North Korea like Clinton did without ever mentioning that North Korea cheated on that agreement before the ink was dry would be like denouncing American aggression against Japan in 1942 and neglecting to mention Pearl Harbor. Anyone who is either that stupid or that disingenuous should not be allowed on TV.

When pressed by CNN's Anderson Cooper about the failed deal, Richardson lied, claiming the 1994 deal prevented the North Koreans from building nukes "for eight years" — i.e., right up until the day The New York Times reported the North Koreans had been developing nukes "for the past several years."

Kim is crazier than any leader even South America has been able to produce. In fact, he's so crazy, we might be able to get the Democrats to take action. Someone tell Nancy Pelosi that the "Dear Leader" is an actual pederast. Then we'll at least be able to read his instant messages.

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[JoeBen81]

We need more Clinton threads. Seriously. MORE.

If I say Clinton is as bad as Bush, will you guys stop? Not that I am, cause I'm not. I was just wondering.......

[puffin]

We need more members here posting intelligent debating points not yellow dots and 'one-liners'. HEY OUT THERE! Anyone care to debate the FACTS contained within Annes article? I guess we'll see.
Oh that's right you can't "debate" a FACT only acknowledge it's existence.

[JoeBen81]

puffin wrote: We need more members here posting intelligent debating points not yellow dots and 'one-liners'. HEY OUT THERE! Anyone care to debate the FACTS contained within Annes article? I guess we'll see.
Oh that's right you can't "debate" a FACT only acknowledge it's existence.
It's what I do. No forum rule against being short breathed. I've made plenty of posts with substance when the topic is worth it, rare as that might be. This isn't one of them. I just figured you'd be happy someone responded to your thread.

[el_hombre_de_Dios]

Clinton sold us out. The bastard should be hung. But instead he's a god to none to few of the intellectually and morally challenged left. If the lefties can't see clear enough through their la-la land rose colored sunglasses to see that the idiot Clinton set us up for what's happening now, then voting the DNC back into power is suicide for the US..plain and simple.

The left blames Bush for not owning up to his mistakes..well look whose talkin. A look at how much more idiotically serious this 'mistake' was. :roll:

[johnflesh]

Funny, I remember blaiming Clinton for his blunders as much as I blame Bush for his. Give credit where credit is due.

But thank you Ann for making this American issue otherwise divided between groups of Americans instead of us all. Alienation is your forte I see.

[el_hombre_de_Dios]

johnflesh wrote: Funny, I remember blaiming Clinton for his blunders as much as I blame Bush for his. Give credit where credit is due.

But thank you Ann for making this American issue otherwise divided between groups of Americans instead of us all. Alienation is your forte I see.

The problem is partisanship has made dialogue between the two parties a wasted effort. As shown either party, at times, must be hit over the head with the truth or it will not own up to it. To say exposing the truth is 'alienation' is to sacrifice reality for the sake of diminishing partisanship. That can never work as real efforts at bi-partisnship must live in reality, not spin it away in order to diminish responsibilty. And BTW, it is the left that is much more strongly noted for its lack of personal responsibilty and situational ethics to explain away irresponsible behavior.

Coulter maybe guilty of partisan rancor at times, but not without warrant however.

"Pay attention to your enemies, for they are the first to discover your mistakes." - Antisthenes

[Snake]

Alright, here's the break down, Bush is a dck, Clinton is a pssy, and Kim Jong Ill? Kim Jong Ill's an a*shole. I think we all know how the rest of this goes.

[Poon]

Whats up with the latest Clinton threads? Yes, he had sex with an intern, no one can deny that. But seriously, why all this renewed attention on Clinton??

[Snake]

Because he's back in the press, tring to push an agenda.

[Alizard]

puffin wrote: Once againg Ann coulter hits the nail on the head when she points out Clinton and his Lib cronies are telling a blatant lie when they claim Kim didn't develope nuke tech for eight years. Even the NYT knew that was a lie. The 'link' to Annes excellent article which follows can be found at annecoulter.com.

Now there's something you never see..... the name "Ann Coulter" and the words "excellent article" referred to in the same sentence.

[puffin]

What's up with you 'lizard'? You say you never "see something' yet you just responded to a thread in which what you said you "never" see you did just now IN FACT "see".


(It's so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel) LOL
Sorry for 'toying' with you 'Lizard' but when you get someones head handed to you on a silver platter what else can you do?

[el_hombre_de_Dios]

TwinkieDP wrote: Whats up with the latest Clinton threads? Yes, he had sex with an intern, no one can deny that. But seriously, why all this renewed attention on Clinton?? :duh1:

Clinton sold nuclear technology to a reprobate pervert and expected civil behavior. What he got was them using the technology to make nuclear weapons. Is Clinton and his past cabinet intellectual idiots (BOZO's) for doing this? :lol:

[Rankor and Pissing]

Given that the U.S. actually DID create this debacle, that we not only provided Kim Im Ill with the money and equipoment to make a nuclear bomb, and the deal was brokered through the Clinton administration with the deal being sealed by Albright... why is it that they aren't being hauled in front of a Federal judge on Treason charges? Does everyone understand a total ego-maniacle madman has the tools to potentially throw the world into WWIII and the Clintons provided him all he needed, as well as the means to NOT BE HELD TO ANY INTERNATIONAL OVERSIGHT FOR 5 YEARS???

If ANY POTUS provided nukes to a certified dictator, as well as a "get out of jail free" card for 5 years, they'd be hauled up by their twinkie and beaten - but this was Slick Bill - and since he's got GOD status in the Democratic party, as well as a well publicized hummer and a failed prosecution over Whitewater and an Impeachment... is it so far fetched that he be brought up on Treason charges?

Who will be ultimately responsibile for a nuclear bomb being detonated in Seoul or Tokyo? We will... Americans. No wonder the rest of the world hates us... even the GOD's of American politics are as crooked as a mafia mob boss.

[puffin]

I just LOVE your name 'Twinke'!
The problem is someone did deny he had sex with an intern. It was 'Billy Bob' himself "THE MAN WITH THE PERPETUAL HARDON" who did the 'denying' and was empeached because he LIED about it. If he had been able to 'keep it in his pants' and out of the mouths of trailer trash maybe he would have had enough blood heading to his brain instead of to 'Black Beauty' to understand what was really going on in NK and with AQ.

[Snake]

King J Dawg the Illest is no mad man, he's a poet, who's willing to break the rules for what he believes in. He's a loner man, a real rebel, and he won't let who says what get in the way of his dreams.

[el_hombre_de_Dios]

Kamel wrote: King J Dawg the Illest is no mad man, he's a poet, who's willing to break the rules for what he believes in. He's a loner man, a real rebel, and he won't let who says what get in the way of his dreams.


Is this real?!?!?! :rotf: His dreams of what, selling more weapons to rogue nations to get more money so he can consolidate his power to starve more N. Koreans to death with failed communist policies? N. Korea is a rogue nation that's equal with the mafia. They'll sell arms to anyone for a price. And we want them to have nuclear weapons? (Which they may very well have now thanks to the Bozo's extraordinaire Clinton/Albright.) If

[puffin]

Oh Kim is certainly "a loner man" all right. Within a few months he will choke to death on a mandarin orange sent to him by China.

[Poon]

puffin wrote: I just LOVE your name 'Twinke'!
The problem is someone did deny he had sex with an intern. It was 'Billy Bob' himself "THE MAN WITH THE PERPETUAL HARDON" who did the 'denying' and was empeached because he LIED about it. If he had been able to 'keep it in his pants' and out of the mouths of trailer trash maybe he would have had enough blood heading to his brain instead of to 'Black Beauty' to understand what was really going on in NK and with AQ. Thats Twinkie to you sir... :-|

[Alizard]

puffin wrote: What's up with you 'lizard'? You say you never "see something' yet you just responded to a thread in which what you said you "never" see you did just now IN FACT "see".


(It's so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel) LOL
Sorry for 'toying' with you 'Lizard' but when you get someones head handed to you on a silver platter what else can you do?

I guess in your case, you can totally misunderstand my post in your stampede to take literally what was obviously a sarcastic remark.

When someone says "you never see XYZ" it actually means it is so uncommon that seeing it startles you....

You know: like the phrase "campassionate conservative".......

There are just certain words that never go together.... and when somebody uses them together, it's good for a real laugh.

hence my response in this thread.


Quote: when you get someones head handed to you on a silver platter Glad to see you have a rich fantasy life......