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britboy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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private_citizen wrote: britboy wrote: lilwolf wrote: Well stated Airo.....well stated indeed. :tu:
What a lame addition to the discussion. In fact it wasn't an addition at all.
Can't you PM each other the little 'I think your great by the way' messages so we don't all have to read them?
Jees if after everything I typed some guy said 'Wow you're the best' I'd be annoyed by it after about 2 days.....
bitter? jealous?
I am sure your mummie thinks you are great.. maybe she will come down to the basement with cookies for you tonight.
Are you seriously asking if I am jealous of the relationship lilwolf has with Airo and how he compliments him so, and do I wish deep down some internet guy remarked on how cool he thought I was?
Is that your question? |
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private_citizen
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Location: New Hampshire
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think you ARE bitter, and jealous of many things.. including the camaraderie of many in here.
One would question your motive as a "non-gun owning, non-american" citizen even having an input into these forums of what is legal in America. |
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britboy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: |
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private_citizen wrote: I think you ARE bitter, and jealous of many things.. including the camaraderie of many in here.
One would question your motive as a "non-gun owning, non-american" citizen even having an input into these forums of what is legal in America.
When they rename the forum 'US Gun owners, let's just compliment each other', I'll be the first out of the door! |
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leftneckredwing
Joined: 13 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:14 am Post subject: |
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britboy wrote: private_citizen wrote: I think you ARE bitter, and jealous of many things.. including the camaraderie of many in here.
One would question your motive as a "non-gun owning, non-american" citizen even having an input into these forums of what is legal in America.
When they rename the forum 'US Gun owners, let's just compliment each other', I'll be the first out of the door!
It is a valid curiousity as to why, though. Is is lingering Btitish Imperialism or is is still sour grapes over our Independence? Do you hate us for our Freedom?
Do you see any Americans campaigning to change British law on British forums? |
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airo
Joined: 31 Jul 2004
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Location: Tampa, Florida
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leftneckredwing wrote: britboy wrote: private_citizen wrote: I think you ARE bitter, and jealous of many things.. including the camaraderie of many in here.
One would question your motive as a "non-gun owning, non-american" citizen even having an input into these forums of what is legal in America.
When they rename the forum 'US Gun owners, let's just compliment each other', I'll be the first out of the door!
It is a valid curiousity as to why, though. Is is lingering Btitish Imperialism or is is still sour grapes over our Independence? Do you hate us for our Freedom?
Do you see any Americans campaigning to change British law on British forums?
It's to save the children! |
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airo
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britboy wrote: private_citizen wrote: britboy wrote: lilwolf wrote: Well stated Airo.....well stated indeed. :tu:
What a lame addition to the discussion. In fact it wasn't an addition at all.
Can't you PM each other the little 'I think your great by the way' messages so we don't all have to read them?
Jees if after everything I typed some guy said 'Wow you're the best' I'd be annoyed by it after about 2 days.....
bitter? jealous?
I am sure your mummie thinks you are great.. maybe she will come down to the basement with cookies for you tonight.
Are you seriously asking if I am jealous of the relationship lilwolf has with Airo and how he compliments him so, and do I wish deep down some internet guy remarked on how cool he thought I was?
Is that your question?
Lilwolf isn't the only one who agrees with me, or who's supported me publically on these forums. |
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leftneckredwing
Joined: 13 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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airo wrote: britboy wrote: private_citizen wrote: britboy wrote: lilwolf wrote: Well stated Airo.....well stated indeed. :tu:
What a lame addition to the discussion. In fact it wasn't an addition at all.
Can't you PM each other the little 'I think your great by the way' messages so we don't all have to read them?
Jees if after everything I typed some guy said 'Wow you're the best' I'd be annoyed by it after about 2 days.....
bitter? jealous?
I am sure your mummie thinks you are great.. maybe she will come down to the basement with cookies for you tonight.
Are you seriously asking if I am jealous of the relationship lilwolf has with Airo and how he compliments him so, and do I wish deep down some internet guy remarked on how cool he thought I was?
Is that your question?
Lilwolf isn't the only one who agrees with me, or who's supported me publically on these forums.
I think it is annoying to some that we stick together like spaceage glue when it comes to our Rights. Regardless of how we may brawl over whatever among ourselves, when it comes to our Rights, we stand United. (And Armed) |
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Lucky Luke
Joined: 28 Oct 2005
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leftneckredwing wrote: airo wrote: britboy wrote: private_citizen wrote: britboy wrote: lilwolf wrote: Well stated Airo.....well stated indeed. :tu:
What a lame addition to the discussion. In fact it wasn't an addition at all.
Can't you PM each other the little 'I think your great by the way' messages so we don't all have to read them?
Jees if after everything I typed some guy said 'Wow you're the best' I'd be annoyed by it after about 2 days.....
bitter? jealous?
I am sure your mummie thinks you are great.. maybe she will come down to the basement with cookies for you tonight.
Are you seriously asking if I am jealous of the relationship lilwolf has with Airo and how he compliments him so, and do I wish deep down some internet guy remarked on how cool he thought I was?
Is that your question?
Lilwolf isn't the only one who agrees with me, or who's supported me publically on these forums.
I think it is annoying to some that we stick together like spaceage glue when it comes to our Rights. Regardless of how we may brawl over whatever among ourselves, when it comes to our Rights, we stand United. (And Armed)
It isn't annoying at all, we can all disagree on this forum and we all do on one thing or another.
However it could become impossible when this gun control forum is now more an anti gun control forum silencing the few posters who happen to genuinely agree with gun control and who are ready to clean up all the anti gun control propaganda and other political advertisements found in here.
I would like to tell you to check your PMs but strangely you are making sure that I can't send you any Lefneckredwing, why is that?
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leftneckredwing
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Lucky Luke wrote: leftneckredwing wrote: airo wrote: britboy wrote: private_citizen wrote: britboy wrote: lilwolf wrote: Well stated Airo.....well stated indeed. :tu:
What a lame addition to the discussion. In fact it wasn't an addition at all.
Can't you PM each other the little 'I think your great by the way' messages so we don't all have to read them?
Jees if after everything I typed some guy said 'Wow you're the best' I'd be annoyed by it after about 2 days.....
bitter? jealous?
I am sure your mummie thinks you are great.. maybe she will come down to the basement with cookies for you tonight.
Are you seriously asking if I am jealous of the relationship lilwolf has with Airo and how he compliments him so, and do I wish deep down some internet guy remarked on how cool he thought I was?
Is that your question?
Lilwolf isn't the only one who agrees with me, or who's supported me publically on these forums.
I think it is annoying to some that we stick together like spaceage glue when it comes to our Rights. Regardless of how we may brawl over whatever among ourselves, when it comes to our Rights, we stand United. (And Armed)
It isn't annoying at all, we can all disagree on this forum and we all do on one thing or another.
However it could become impossible when this gun control forum is now more an anti gun control forum silencing the few posters who happen to genuinely agree with gun control and who are ready to clean up all the anti gun control propaganda and other political advertisements found in here.
I would like to tell you to check your PMs but strangely you are making sure that I can't send you any Lefneckredwing, why is that?
:-D
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The first thing is wishful thinking. You will not be able to exact your plunder of our Rights. No one, but NO ONE, is going to listen to or give any credence to someone that doesn't read books of any kind. Or give any credence to someone without principles. You get air time here, but so what? No one really cares.
The 2nd I don't know what you're talking about. As a mod, I can't prevent getting PMs.
I got one from the Admin that you had written, but it required no response.
If you want to PM me, do so. |
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Lucky Luke
Joined: 28 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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leftneckredwing wrote: Lucky Luke wrote: leftneckredwing wrote: airo wrote: britboy wrote: private_citizen wrote: britboy wrote: lilwolf wrote: Well stated Airo.....well stated indeed. :tu:
What a lame addition to the discussion. In fact it wasn't an addition at all.
Can't you PM each other the little 'I think your great by the way' messages so we don't all have to read them?
Jees if after everything I typed some guy said 'Wow you're the best' I'd be annoyed by it after about 2 days.....
bitter? jealous?
I am sure your mummie thinks you are great.. maybe she will come down to the basement with cookies for you tonight.
Are you seriously asking if I am jealous of the relationship lilwolf has with Airo and how he compliments him so, and do I wish deep down some internet guy remarked on how cool he thought I was?
Is that your question?
Lilwolf isn't the only one who agrees with me, or who's supported me publically on these forums.
I think it is annoying to some that we stick together like spaceage glue when it comes to our Rights. Regardless of how we may brawl over whatever among ourselves, when it comes to our Rights, we stand United. (And Armed)
It isn't annoying at all, we can all disagree on this forum and we all do on one thing or another.
However it could become impossible when this gun control forum is now more an anti gun control forum silencing the few posters who happen to genuinely agree with gun control and who are ready to clean up all the anti gun control propaganda and other political advertisements found in here.
I would like to tell you to check your PMs but strangely you are making sure that I can't send you any Lefneckredwing, why is that?
:-D
:-D
The first thing is wishful thinking. You will not be able to exact your plunder of our Rights. No one, but NO ONE, is going to listen to or give any credence to someone that doesn't read books of any kind. Or give any credence to someone without principles. You get air time here, but so what? No one really cares.
The 2nd I don't know what you're talking about. As a mod, I can't prevent getting PMs.
I got one from the Admin that you had written, but it required no response.
If you want to PM me, do so.
Check your PM's.
:-D
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree that no one on this planet will be able to take away our rights....it might get a little nasty before it is all said and done ,but in the end we will come out on top and we will still have our guns, and the nations and people that surrender or have wrongfully given away that right are the fools.
They are the ones that will fall first to a OWG. Not me and clearly not 80 -90 million gun owners here. |
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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There are a great deal of reasons why gun control fails in the US and elsewhere so I would like to point out a few things here:
First, by focusing almost exclusively on handguns, gun control laws encourage the substitution of other weapons. These may be much more deadly (as are shoulder weapons) or more likely to result in injury if the victim resists (as are knives). So long as the underlying motivation to do harm is present, gun control laws can affect only the choice of weapon, sometimes with deadly results.
Second, most handgun violence is perpetrated by criminals who, due to previous run-ins with the law, are already forbidden by law to possess firearms, and who face serious punishment for the crimes they commit. Controlling the behavior of this cohort through additional gun control legislation is nearly hopeless.
Third, gun control laws are more likely to disarm the general public than the criminal element. Most criminals acquire their guns on the illegal market, where background checks and waiting periods are not enforced, and they are willing to pay a higher price for a gun because they plan to use it. The law-abiding majority, on the other hand, is more likely to postpone purchasing a firearm if gun control laws make the purchase less convenient or more expensive. Italian criminologist Cesare Beccaria described the end result over 200 years ago: "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants." |
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